poll: Who puts tabacco in their joints

[Dödsknark]

By the way. I have a friend who is all into natural remedies and all kinds of herbs and he has tried A LOT of herbs for mixing with weed. Everything adds too much taste or tastes weird except one of them.

Mullein. I dig this one. It is cheap and can be bought online from a number of places. Makes weed last longer, doesn't ruin the taste and burns very good. Try it out if you want to mix with something but don't want the tobacco. It also grows wild in alot of places. Even up here in Sweden.

 

[VerdantGreen]

Yeah I hear you. I've been smoking more and more out of my bubbler to filter some of the nasties out. Looking around and saving up for some sort of vape too. Maybe just a small glass vaporgenie. Or some bigger thing to go with a perc bong, I dunno.

But saying weed is just as harmful as tobacco, then yeah, if we're talking pure tobacco. The tobacco in cigs IS poison. All those shitty additives... Plus the tar and shit which you get when burning anything, be it weed or baccy.

i use filters in my joints (with tobacco) - still gets me very stoned
in fact i imagine a weed/tobacco mixed joint with a filter is probably less harmful than a pure weed joint without a filter.
VG

 

[weedobix]

It certainly feels a lot better for you VG, i used to feel ill half the time when i smoked tobacco. To be honest pure joints aren't much better i know, but i barely ever smoke a joint now that i dont smoke baccy.
All i can tell you is that my health has improved tenfold since giving up and i don't really get colds or anything anymore.
I think when you smoke pure you don't get nearly as much smoke overall, that probably helps alot. For me giving up tobacco is one of the best things i've ever done. I did smoke it for over 15 years though.

 

[VerdantGreen]

i cant smoke joints without a filter now as they just about make me puke.

here's a couple of links for those of you that think tobacco smoke is worse than cannabis smoke - time to get down off your high horses

'cannabis smoke has more toxins'

cannabis harm worse than tobacco

'cannabis smoke and cancer'

Cannabis smoke contains many of the same carcinogens as tobacco smoke, including greater concentrations of certain aromatic hydrocarbons such as benzopyrene, prompting fears that chronic marijuana inhalation may be a risk factor for tobacco-use related cancers.

VG

 

[weedobix]

The third link kind of goes against what you're saying, noting that cannabinoids have anti-cancer properties.
Although it does go on to mention that long-term exposure to cannabis smoke, particularly when combined with tobacco smoking, is capable of damaging the bronchial system in ways that could one day lead to respiratory cancers.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

I have never understood this. Why would you "water down" your herb with a cancer causing substance? Do we all grow herb, or are we also tobacco farmers? It makes not sense what so ever to me. Sounds nasty as fuck to. I do believe it would also take away from the goodness that has developed from being properly grown and cured. I voted no.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

i cant smoke joints without a filter now as they just about make me puke.

here's a couple of links for those of you that think tobacco smoke is worse than cannabis smoke - time to get down off your high horses

'cannabis smoke has more toxins'

cannabis harm worse than tobacco

'cannabis smoke and cancer'

VG

You have to be in the UK. This sounds like UK propaganda. You left out that no one has ever gotten cancer from smoking marijuana so then how can it be as dangerous? Marijuana has anti cancer properties in it. that is the reason that no one has ever gotten cancer from smoking it. You can watch "run from the cure", or read one of the 20,000 studies done on marijuana. Like the one where they injected concentrated thc into rats brain tumors. Come to find out those damn brain tumors went away. So how can marijuana be as dangerous as tobacco if it will make cancer run for the woods? Just doesn't add up. It is surpising when i hear these things on a marijuana forums. How can you be on here supporting marijuana if you think it is deadly? That shit is just plain wierd. Did you know you will also go crazy if you smoke pot? That would explain a lot of what is talked about on here.

 

[VerdantGreen]

You have to be in the UK. This sounds like UK propaganda. You left out that no one has ever gotten cancer from smoking marijuana so then how can it be as dangerous? Marijuana has anti cancer properties in it. that is the reason that no one has ever gotten cancer from smoking it. You can watch "run from the cure", or read one of the 20,000 studies done on marijuana. Like the one where they injected concentrated thc into rats brain tumors. Come to find out those damn brain tumors went away. So how can marijuana be as dangerous as tobacco if it will make cancer run for the woods? Just doesn't add up. It is surpising when i hear these things on a marijuana forums. How can you be on here supporting marijuana if you think it is deadly? That shit is just plain wierd. Did you know you will also go crazy if you smoke pot? That would explain a lot of what is talked about on here.

just because mj has some anti cancer properties, it doesnt mean that smoking it is good for you. wake up - you are deluding yourself. inhaling smoke is bad for you. end of.

one study is from canada, another from New Zealand and the last one is from the Norml website - you know the one that is trying to reform mj laws

if you want to use mj and it not be harmful to you, then your best bet is a vaporizer - then the thc is vaporised at temps lower than those needed to start producing toxic chemicals like the benzinoids. i have one and it's nice - but to me smoking a joint is much more enjoyable and satisfying.

just because this is a pro mj forum, it doesnt mean you cant acknowledge the truth - it's called realism.

again - just because mj has many medicinal properties doesnt make the smoking of it harmless. sorry if the truth hurts.

VG

 

[freeworldorders]

I put tobacco in my joints, hash joints without tobacco kills me.

 

[Grimr3efer]

Kingsize papers and 100% weed inside.

 

[StRa]

the healty way.......eat the weed!

I'm in Europe so I put a bit of tobacco in my spliff.....btw I don't smoke cigarettes.....

If I have a well cured weed I would be able to smoke pure......a not well cured weed in a pure joint make me cough!

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

just because mj has some anti cancer properties, it doesnt mean that smoking it is good for you. wake up - you are deluding yourself. inhaling smoke is bad for you. end of.

He was right! Only Brits say "end of." Well, it's not the end of the discussion. These studies force a philosophical question of if a carcinogen does not cause cancer is it still a carcinogen?

 

[OrganicOzarks]

He was right! Only Brits say "end of." Well, it's not the end of the discussion. These studies force a philosophical question of if a carcinogen does not cause cancer is it still a carcinogen?

Word.

That is an old school american expression.

I could tell you were a Brit by the propaganda that you spew. I am not trying to be an ass or anything. Your Government just uses different propaganda than America's. They both are full of shit though. I like the brain damage pshycosis shit that you guys talk about too. It make sme laugh. If marijuana causes cancer then can you please show me one person that has conclusivly gotten cancer from marijuana? You can't. that is why I am so surprised at your copy and pasting the propaganda articles. It is just wrong. This is not the right place for such lies.

 

[headband 707]

This is why doctors recommend vaporizors.

This is why doctors recommend vaporizors.

i cant smoke joints without a filter now as they just about make me puke.

here's a couple of links for those of you that think tobacco smoke is worse than cannabis smoke - time to get down off your high horses

'cannabis smoke has more toxins'

cannabis harm worse than tobacco

'cannabis smoke and cancer'

VG

Although there has been NO DEATHS reported from anyone smoking cannabis any smoke including smoke from a simple camp fire contians carcinogens which the lungs have a hard time with. This is why if you get Cancer and you go to a doc they will recommend you get a vaporizer no doc would recommend that you "SMOKE" cannabis or smoke anything else for that matter.. peace out Headband707

 

[VerdantGreen]

He was right! Only Brits say "end of." Well, it's not the end of the discussion. These studies force a philosophical question of if a carcinogen does not cause cancer is it still a carcinogen?

yes im from the UK, cor blimey love-a-duck

some studies have indeed shown that some cannabis compounds can halt the growth of certain cancers. but that doesnt mean that inhaling the smoke from burning it is harmless - as that smoke contains many compounds- some of which are harmful. the harmful effect of these compounds is made worse because cannabis smoke tends to be inhaled deeper and held in longer than cigarette smoke, making the particulates within much more likely to settle in the lungs. and of course the lack of filter on most people's joints is going to make it much worse

i would strongly recommend anyone who smokes joint - pure or mixed, to use filters.

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

yes im from the UK, cor blimey love-a-duck

some studies have indeed shown that some cannabis compounds can halt the growth of certain cancers. but that doesnt mean that inhaling the smoke from burning it is harmless - as that smoke contains many compounds- some of which are harmful. the harmful effect of these compounds is made worse because cannabis smoke tends to be inhaled deeper and held in longer than cigarette smoke, making the particulates within much more likely to settle in the lungs. and of course the lack of filter on most people's joints is going to make it much worse

i would strongly recommend anyone who smokes joint - pure or mixed, to use filters.

What form does the harm take? No need to be coy.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

yes im from the UK, cor blimey love-a-duck

some studies have indeed shown that some cannabis compounds can halt the growth of certain cancers. but that doesnt mean that inhaling the smoke from burning it is harmless - as that smoke contains many compounds- some of which are harmful. the harmful effect of these compounds is made worse because cannabis smoke tends to be inhaled deeper and held in longer than cigarette smoke, making the particulates within much more likely to settle in the lungs.

So lets say I agree with what you just said. Then where are the rash of people with lung related diseases caused by smoking marijuana? If marijuana does cause lung diesease then why does smoking marijuana also help astma? Everything points to the opposite of what you are saying. i think what you are saying sounds good, but without proof it just sounds good. For 5000 years we have not had a problem with lung disease caused by marijuana. I will say that heavy smokers are more likely to get lung related seasonal illnesses than not heavy smokers. Moderate smokers not so much. As far as marijuana causing lung cancer it is just not the case. Now the effects of butane from out lighters is another thing altogehter.

 

[VerdantGreen]

Word.

That is an old school american expression.

I could tell you were a Brit by the propaganda that you spew. I am not trying to be an ass or anything. Your Government just uses different propaganda than America's. They both are full of shit though. I like the brain damage pshycosis shit that you guys talk about too. It make sme laugh. If marijuana causes cancer then can you please show me one person that has conclusivly gotten cancer from marijuana? You can't. that is why I am so surprised at your copy and pasting the propaganda articles. It is just wrong. This is not the right place for such lies.

so it appears that you can be an ass without even trying, and your definition of propaganda seems to be 'anything you dont want to hear'
the links i provided were citing scientific studies, nothing to do with govenments. and the one i quoted was from Norml - arent they an american organisation that is pro mj? - even they can accept the reality that smoking is bad for you - sorry you find it so hard to accept yourself.
i would LOVE smoking weed to be harmless, but in reality it is not.

VG

 

[rashboy99]

Marijuana is something I think you have to believe in which I do.

VG sounds like the more rational individual...however

Sounds a bit like some peeps are getting insulted. VG is probly right scientifically, but from everything I've read I'm not convinced.

How come I smoke like a 7 a day for just over 2 years W/O Tabb. since I quit butts. and My lungs never burn when I cough after I smoke, phlegm and hartburn have subsided, and weezing is gone, ever since I quit those damn shitty cancer sticks!

P.S that's even after I smoke a 3 pape to myself.

 

[dagnabit]

Word.

That is an old school american expression.

I could tell you were a Brit by the propaganda that you spew. I am not trying to be an ass or anything. Your Government just uses different propaganda than America's. They both are full of shit though. I like the brain damage pshycosis shit that you guys talk about too. It make sme laugh. If marijuana causes cancer then can you please show me one person that has conclusivly gotten cancer from marijuana? You can't. that is why I am so surprised at your copy and pasting the propaganda articles. It is just wrong. This is not the right place for such lies.

all burning carbon based material releases carcinogens..
smoke inhalation is a known irritant to the bronchioles when the cells of said bronchioles are dammaged the have a strong propensity to mutate sometimes that mutation is benign sometimes malignant.
since there have been no real independent studies done on the effects of this particular carbon smoke (due to its prohibition) how in the world could you reasonably expect someone to produce the nonexistent studies results.
not to mention the scientific method is not capable of proving a negative..

ALL SMOKE IS BAD FOR YOU!!!

that being said...
i love a good doober