Damn VTA...that almost sounds like they have been stealing material from this Thread!! lol
ICMAG Administration endorses The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010
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No shit!!!! There's a few lines in that article i've said verbatim...,
torealforthcbay
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so funny. 6 months ago I was banned from thcbay for SUPPORTING, this measure!! ha.
Yeah, I chuckle when ppl bring up that we are just saying the same things, over and over--
When we are dealing with facts, there are only so many--
But the Anti's excuses can go on forever--
guilty!!!!
an "ask ed" question helped shape my opinion then. i was afraid mmj would breed apathy and complacency..unfortunately i was right...what i had no idea of (naivety on my part) was the greed factor of mmj profiteers actively fighting against legalization
binaryfission
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apathy to what exactly? to legalization?
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yes..
a card holder who feels safe has no sense of urgency.
good 'ol TJ said it best 234 years ago...
quite possibly my favorite quote of all time..
basically..
if your warm and happy in a bathtub full of human shit your more likely to stay in it till it gets cold....
i woke up this morning ad had to literally get on the computer and make sure i hadnt actually posted some of the things i wrote in these threads yesterday...i kept typing and erasing...some of these anti's literally make me want to HAVE division in the movement..literally, and for that i feel shame...but i cannot help myself, as i stand behind prop19 on moral grounds, i view people who are against it as the enemy. literally. and that is absolutely shameful on my part.....but i have had enough of the fucking scumbags. period. if we were all at a round table discussing this like adults, i would be the guy bitch slappin you little whores and kicking you when you were down. i cannot accept, nor will i, any fukn excuses from you people. i have listened for months, waiting for ONE SINGLE SENTENCE that defeats the moral principle of taking ground from our other enemies when we have the chance. and if you dont help us...then fuck you...better stay the fuck away from me. i have more respect for cops and prosecuters then i do for growers who dont vote for this. and if you dont like it. fuck you.
--now, to clarify, i have heard many, many, good points of concern and questions about 19...nothing wrong with that..but in the end there is right and wrong, and you have to choose your side.
--and i dont wanna hear any of you bitches whining about name calling either. are you fukn serious? fuck you. kiss my ass you scumbag pieces of shit.
--and yes, if you get a chance to read this before it gets deleted, this is a HEAVILY edited version of what i was typing yesterday..and let me save you some time, i am an incredibly immature person who tends to lose my temper and have tantrums...if you think that is worse then voting to keep cannabis illegal...again, fuck you punk ass bitches!
--now, to clarify, i have heard many, many, good points of concern and questions about 19...nothing wrong with that..but in the end there is right and wrong, and you have to choose your side.
--and i dont wanna hear any of you bitches whining about name calling either. are you fukn serious? fuck you. kiss my ass you scumbag pieces of shit.
--and yes, if you get a chance to read this before it gets deleted, this is a HEAVILY edited version of what i was typing yesterday..and let me save you some time, i am an incredibly immature person who tends to lose my temper and have tantrums...if you think that is worse then voting to keep cannabis illegal...again, fuck you punk ass bitches!
Hahaha now that's the Subrob I know !!!!!
Z
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Well, all is good friend! You found the BEST place on the WWW to talk about Cannabis.
VTA, great article man. You would think that an article like that would have no purpose but it does. Damn shame we have to call out for a united frot against prohibition! For the rest of the people posting here. You can be certain that bloggers and writers are reading through this thread. Shit, google anything about cannabis and a thread from icmag shows up. Then again, a lot of what we are saying to refute the Anti's is just based on simple common sense and the ability to read...
Anyways, thanks to all and keep bird doggin those articles for us vta!!
Jed
BigBudBill
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Sub....you absolutely rock. Fuck them and their bullshit word games. They know what the hell they are doing. I bet we even see Dragonfly's bullshit pop up here again. Every real (yes, we see through your BS) objection has been debated and debunked and most logical people see that. Let's not let them drag us down to their level, maintain the high road.
"You know how we do."-LD
"You know how we do."-LD
Subrob...[clap-clap-clap]!! (No, you don't need penicillin)
I haven't been down with this from the begining...because I also was an Anti, and thought I had good reasons for it-- Then one day, it was like a "Wow" moment...and I understood the concept of, "Small steps", and investigated into my biggest doubt...that it was going to effect 215--
Well, I did, and now I am convinced it won't-- (Or at least as convinced as I can be about Legislation--)
I hope they don't delete your post, because as I had my "Wow" moment...so I hope some of these other guys/gals will too-- We just never know what will give it to them--
Ppl might read a post of mine, and think, "Fuckin Pussy" lol...then read yours, and have that moment!! Or vice versa--
That is why I think, even though it gets repetitive sometimes...that having multiple ppl posting, and giving their personal touch to it....is a "Good" thing--
BTW...IRL, I am more like what you said....I am not always as calm as what I appear here--
I haven't been down with this from the begining...because I also was an Anti, and thought I had good reasons for it-- Then one day, it was like a "Wow" moment...and I understood the concept of, "Small steps", and investigated into my biggest doubt...that it was going to effect 215--
Well, I did, and now I am convinced it won't-- (Or at least as convinced as I can be about Legislation--)
I hope they don't delete your post, because as I had my "Wow" moment...so I hope some of these other guys/gals will too-- We just never know what will give it to them--
Ppl might read a post of mine, and think, "Fuckin Pussy" lol...then read yours, and have that moment!! Or vice versa--
That is why I think, even though it gets repetitive sometimes...that having multiple ppl posting, and giving their personal touch to it....is a "Good" thing--
BTW...IRL, I am more like what you said....I am not always as calm as what I appear here--
Z
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in memory of Jack... may he lurk in peace (and silence!!!)
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this is a confusing issue for me...right from the start i have said i dont like the bill...but you have to weigh the big picture...i still have misgivings about the specific direction this is going to take...we all should...but it is out of our hands no matter what we do...we are not going to get what we want...and honestly, we shouldnt...hippie pot grower nirvana is what we want...all of us...but there is absolutely no reason we should be treated differently then other agricultural farmers....no reason what so ever we should get by w out having to pay taxes, pay for zoning, permits, etc...all other legit businesses do...EDIT: WE ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY NOW, HOWS THAT WORKING OUT? END EDIT
....people, remember this and remember it well...in ten years PROP19 WONT EVEN FUCKING MATTER...if it passes...two three years from now, the scene, the situation, the laws, the climate, the politics, everything will be different then it is right now, and 5 years after that, it will be drastically changed again.
--I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO VOTE FOR THE WAY CANNABIS SHOULD BE HANDLED...IM ASKING YOU, EVERY ONE OF YOU, TO ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT THINGS DONT CHANGE OVERNIGHT, NOT W ONE VOTE, NOT W 6...IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME...AND THE TIME TO START IS RIGHT NOW, RIGHT HERE IN CALI..
--and yes, it is a horrible thing to have people in jail, as we speak, for canna crime....and it sucks HUGE HAIRY LEO BALSS that they are gonna hafta do thier time...but thats how it works...there will be no retro active release for convicted criminals regardless....think of it this way...if you are in prison now...doing a nickel or more...would you rather have people wait to vote until they work in a retro active clause that has never been used, amended or passed in the history of our nation, or would you rather go to your next parole hearing armed w the fact the crime you are imprisoned for is no longer on the books? think about it..
lets see...what else have i heard..oh yeah
BIG PHARMA OR TOBACKY CO...--dude, dudette, look up the word INEVITABLE...if big bidness dont take over, were gonna see abunch of former freedom fighting long haired hippies BECOME big business...this is the new america, and its too late to change...the vast majority of americans who earn a living off of "NEW INDUSTRY" ...make it off the cottage industries that are created by the bidness
----and the jack herer thing doesnt need to be revisited...i thank his family for beating down the bitches who were using his memory to slander the momentum of the movement...ok..i gotta go back to work...fuck
....people, remember this and remember it well...in ten years PROP19 WONT EVEN FUCKING MATTER...if it passes...two three years from now, the scene, the situation, the laws, the climate, the politics, everything will be different then it is right now, and 5 years after that, it will be drastically changed again.
--I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO VOTE FOR THE WAY CANNABIS SHOULD BE HANDLED...IM ASKING YOU, EVERY ONE OF YOU, TO ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT THINGS DONT CHANGE OVERNIGHT, NOT W ONE VOTE, NOT W 6...IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME...AND THE TIME TO START IS RIGHT NOW, RIGHT HERE IN CALI..
--and yes, it is a horrible thing to have people in jail, as we speak, for canna crime....and it sucks HUGE HAIRY LEO BALSS that they are gonna hafta do thier time...but thats how it works...there will be no retro active release for convicted criminals regardless....think of it this way...if you are in prison now...doing a nickel or more...would you rather have people wait to vote until they work in a retro active clause that has never been used, amended or passed in the history of our nation, or would you rather go to your next parole hearing armed w the fact the crime you are imprisoned for is no longer on the books? think about it..
lets see...what else have i heard..oh yeah
BIG PHARMA OR TOBACKY CO...--dude, dudette, look up the word INEVITABLE...if big bidness dont take over, were gonna see abunch of former freedom fighting long haired hippies BECOME big business...this is the new america, and its too late to change...the vast majority of americans who earn a living off of "NEW INDUSTRY" ...make it off the cottage industries that are created by the bidness
----and the jack herer thing doesnt need to be revisited...i thank his family for beating down the bitches who were using his memory to slander the momentum of the movement...ok..i gotta go back to work...fuck
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ive said it a thousand times
how i feel
WE KNOW WHO YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ARE NOW!!!!
mine got KGed too dont sweat it bro...hey you lasted longer than me...
@ the round table... tap nap or snap i dont care which....
you were most likely banned for something else. over there, 95% of the people are against prop 19, its more of a growers forum and not a social forum, like this one.....
ive never been there, but if its 95% against, i imagine its more of a COMMERCIAL growers forum....and this would be a VERY important distinction...though im sure it wouldnt have been overlooked on purpose...
EDIT: and here is another distinction....krunch, for example, has the fukn cajones to stand up and say why he is against it...got no hate for honesty...but most of the rest of you...hiding behind avatars, not coming out for who you are or why you are against it...myehh...pussies
here is the crux of the biscuit, it's just a marker on the road
sadly, i think many no's understand this at some level, they just want their status quo
but the polling trends certainly don't look worse, slightly better from what's been reported in the mainstream press(and here)
so each day it seems a bit more real(or so i hope)
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