will these led's replace my 1000w hps?

[wonderplan]

ok guys, i need some advice.
i've never grown with led's before and know nothing about them except that they use far less power and are not as bright and not as expensive as hps. i was gonna buy some and see if i can retire my 1000w hps for a while
here are the stats

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...225-BRx4-G.jpg
Power Supply AC80-265V 13W
Output Voltage 36V
Frequency 50-60Hz
LED Qty 225pcs
Color Red and Blue
LED Bulbs Power 0.06w x 225 LEDs (13.5w in total)
Lumen(Red/Blue) Red: 7.2Lux x 165LEDs
Blue: 4.8Lux x 60 LEDs
Wavelength Red: 660nm
Blue: 450nm
LEDs Diameter 5mm
Working Temperature -30-60 degree Celsius
Working Humidity Less than 95%
Power Cord Length 25 inch
Light Panel Size 12" L x 12" W x 1-1/2" H
Lighting Coverage 0.66 Ft - 6.6 Ft
Recommended Height 1Ft - 5Ft
Recommended Coverage One panel per 8.6 square feet
Specific Distance and Lighting Coverage:
Distance to Plants Lighting Coverage
20inch 5-1/2 square feet
40inch 7 square feet
60inch 8 square feet
80inch 8-4/5 square feet
Package Includes:

4x LED Light Panels
4 Set Hanging Kits

If i buy 2 of these which would be 8 panels all side by side, would that work???????

 

[Haps]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say no, different ball parks. Completely different solutions for different types of grows. What are you trying to accomplish, this would cost a fortune.
H

 

[!!!]

I'm gonna piss a lot of people off but from what I can see in grow reports and on review sites, LEDs are only useful for veg. They grow airy buds and yields are weak.

 

[wonderplan]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say no, different ball parks. Completely different solutions for different types of grows. What are you trying to accomplish, this would cost a fortune.
H

i am trying to replace my 1000w hps with something that takes less electricity and that is not so bright and to lower my power bill a little

 

[Cannarado]

i am trying to replace my 1000w hps with something that takes less electricity and that is not so bright and to lower my power bill a little

Why not so bright? Producing to much nug?

Can you replace it - Yes

Will it use less electricity - Only if you lower you're watts. Just like a Dimmable HPS. 1000w of HPS is the same as 1000w of LED.

Will it be less bright? Not to our eyes. Still going to be a good amount of light in a small area that if you look at, will hurt you're eyes. But you're plants will know the difference.

If you're thinking pulling the 1000's and swappin for LED's and you're yeild being the same - you're off IMO. LED's can pull it off in veg, but flowering it doesnt stand a chance.

 

[guest456mpy]

Why not so bright? Producing to much nug?

Can you replace it - Yes

Will it use less electricity - Only if you lower you're watts. Just like a Dimmable HPS. 1000w of HPS is the same as 1000w of LED.

Will it be less bright? Not to our eyes. Still going to be a good amount of light in a small area that if you look at, will hurt you're eyes. But you're plants will know the difference.

If you're thinking pulling the 1000's and swappin for LED's and you're yeild being the same - you're off IMO. LED's can pull it off in veg, but flowering it doesnt stand a chance.

Cannarado,
O.P. was asking if he could replace a 1kw with 53 watts of LED.
Please, please please read the post all the way through. It is quite obvious that a HPS could replace a Metal Halide. But he is already running HPS. He was talking about the fact that the LED he was thinking of buying was not as bright.

H.G.

 

[smokinweedgi]

you could replace with 2 x 300w led lights or 3 x 200w from a good led company (not ebay cheap ones) gonna cost yah at least 2 grand prob more like 3 grand

those wee panels are no good and no way could they replace 1000w hps

 

[treefrog]

I'm gonna piss a lot of people off but from what I can see in grow reports and on review sites, LEDs are only useful for veg. They grow airy buds and yields are weak.

Not true. If that's what you see, then I suggest glasses

 

[Cannarado]

Cannarado,
O.P. was asking if he could replace a 1kw with 53 watts of LED.
Please, please please read the post all the way through. It is quite obvious that a HPS could replace a Metal Halide. But he is already running HPS. He was talking about the fact that the LED he was thinking of buying was not as bright.

H.G.

?!?!?

Can you quote me on Metal Halide? I dont know WHERE you got that from. I think you have misread mine and or the O.P. - He clearly wants it not as bright. Im just curious as to why.

I agree with you, he has a 1kw, wants to replace with 52w of LED's. But by asking the question of "Will it replace a 1000w" i assume he wants near same production of bud - And i think he's going to be FAR off that mark with just two of these panels replacing a 1000w.

 

[wonderplan]

you could replace with 2 x 300w led lights or 3 x 200w from a good led company (not ebay cheap ones) gonna cost yah at least 2 grand prob more like 3 grand

those wee panels are no good and no way could they replace 1000w hps

thanks for the straight up answer, i'm starting to figure that out. i was thinking that leds were somehow superior to hps but it's all about the watts, and they are about 3 grand lol
maybe someday

 

[Motta-Tokka]

Any jackass backing up LEDs better have a kickass grow. I have used them and they suck balls. I wish I could sue for my time back.

 

[High Country]

I think I will stick with the sun, that big bright thing in the sky, it's free, perfect spectrum. But as a back up or for winter I've got a 1000W HPS, 600W HPS or 400W HPS. I am just not convinced by LED'S yet.

 

[Hammerhead]

not until the led units 205w and up prices are lowered. I can't justify the high price for these units. I would like to see a 600w led unit compared to a 400w hps. this has not been done. I have seen the lower 63 and 205 w units up against 250 400w hids thats like apples and oranges

 

[ThaLonelyStoner]

I have seen some pretty good results in the LED Forum. I am considering swapping out my 1000 watt for some LEDs. Price is the only thing holding me back.

 

[guest456mpy]

Any jackass backing up LEDs better have a kickass grow. I have used them and they suck balls. I wish I could sue for my time back.

Check out the pictures in Weezards albums. His LEDs are DIY and work a treat.

Sorry you bought some bs hardware.

I have seen some pretty good results in the LED Forum. I am considering swapping out my 1000 watt for some LEDs. Price is the only thing holding me back.

Prices are not yet what they need to be to compete against other lighting quite yet, but this is new technology. Wait a few years and they will start to make financial sense.

H.G.

 

[Hammerhead]

if you see an add that says 80w led will replace you 1000 hid IT'S BULLSHIT . The LED have to use High power leds 1-2w led. The only unit im interested in is 365w but is 700$ no thanks.

 

[guest456mpy]

Hey Hammerhead,

1-2 watts per LED is just the minimum wattage requirements. My DIY uses 5 watts per LED, Weezards units are 15 watts per LED. These LED's are not cheap. There are only a couple of commercial lamps made like this, one from USA the other from Canada. The Units built in China are the 1-2 watt units.

Below the 1 -2 watt units are the pure snake oil hardware.

H.G.

 

[Hammerhead]

the more wattage u use the hotter the unit will get. I believe thats why they use the 1-2 watt led. 15w leds get super hot. If you have one I would like to know what the temps are in the grow room. If these units are even more then the $700 for the unit I like I would never buy the units u speak of. Is there any website I can look at these 15w led units? there just to expensive . Im sticking with my HIDS for now.

 

[Cannarado]

once upon a time i was told Wattage = Heat by "Energy Star" CFL Reps...

 

[guest456mpy]

My room temps run 77-79 deg. The heat is very manageable. My KQR is under 500 watts of LED in a DR 80.
They ARE prohibitively expensive, but someone has to push the envelope forward.
Haitz's law shows cost per unit of LED's just reaching point where costs will drop to a reasonable point. In a couple of years they will be a viable contender in $$$. You are indeed wise to wait until then to buy any LED system if costs are a concern.

Any company that states 1-2 watt LED units are state of the art is using deceptive advertising. These haven't been state of the art in over 3 years.

I wouldn't lie to a fellow Round Table member. You can take this info as straight truth.

H.G.