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Marc Emery Extradited to USA and Sentenced

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CrumpleZone

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This is all about Ego

This is all about Ego

Marc has stepped on some powerful toes, and he did it intentionally. He decided to put his face out there front and center, and taunt the government, the police, the DEA. Anybody who would listen really. Now he's paying the price.

Don't get me wrong. I don't believe that what Marc did was nearly bad enough to get him the kind of treatment he has gotten. Nobody should go to prison for weed let alone seed. Not even guys who taunt the powers that be. That said, obviously, the Gov't. (both US and Canadian) really has a hardon for Marc. I really feel that it's his own fault. He acted like he was made of Teflon, which just strengthened the resolve of those in power to fuck him over.
The assholes that have accomplished jailing Marc have very little else to occupy their small minds with, and once somebody like Emery shows up on their radar it just becomes a game to them. The problem being that have nearly unlimited resources and time. It becomes a crusade to them, something they personally need to do for their own ego gratification. Justice? No... just Ego.

Mean people suck.
 
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very true, Emery is put away because he disrespected the establishment , and basicaly dared them to try and test the WATER BONG DON. In my opinion he wanted to be martyred for the cause.

So he has got what he asked for, except the whole legalization thing. looking good out in California , and many dispensarys in van, are running with out too much interfearance from police, I would personaly like to see them made like in Cali where docs are on site and it takes basically an hour to obtain a MM card.

We all need to rise up and tell those old fools who make the rules there time is done!!!!


peace Respect TS
 
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Power Tech

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CrumpleZone said:
Marc has stepped on some powerful toes, and he did it intentionally. He decided to put his face out there front and center, and taunt the government, the police, the DEA. Anybody who would listen really. Now he's paying the price.

Don't get me wrong. I don't believe that what Marc did was nearly bad enough to get him the kind of treatment he has gotten. Nobody should go to prison for weed let alone seed. Not even guys who taunt the powers that be. That said, obviously, the Gov't. (both US and Canadian) really has a hardon for Marc. I really feel that it's his own fault. He acted like he was made of Teflon, which just strengthened the resolve of those in power to fuck him over.
The assholes that have accomplished jailing Marc have very little else to occupy their small minds with, and once somebody like Emery shows up on their radar it just becomes a game to them. The problem being that have nearly unlimited resources and time. It becomes a crusade to them, something they personally need to do for their own ego gratification. Justice? No... just Ego.

Mean people suck.
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Very good post, agree 100%.

It sucks we pay them to fight us.

Perhaps we should coin a name for their psychological ailment of aggression, and then we can prescribe a medication for it.

I do not know what needs to be prescribed to mellow out but........
 
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headband 707

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I actually think that although Marc went over his head by heckling John Walters at that meeting here in Canada lol (too funny).. I think they were heading down this road just using Marc as a bargaining chip like they always do. Just pushing him out of the way so they could come in and do all this BS without Marc standing up and saying WTF are you guying doing here again?? GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!! OF HERE!!! LOL Go back to the USA where it's not working and you and yours and your fucking it up for everyone there... Instead he got caught in the USA's bad drug policies with no one here to stop or defend him enough to keep him here.The fact that he has a big mouth or ego has really nothing to do with it and you won't hear me agrueing with you on that one lol. If I was to sit down with these guys I think I would have a hard time not yelling lol. They have gone to town here since he has been gone because they think that this is the way that it should be. To these guys there is no grey area... Well welcome to the "GREY"!!! Grey just went "GREEN" here in BC lol lol lol.. peace out Headband707
 
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Dispensary Owners Against Marijuana Legaliztion

Dispensary Owners Against Marijuana Legaliztion

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Dispensary Owners Against Marijuana Legalization

Tagged with: Medical Marijuana Dispensaries NORML Taxing Cannabis
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Yesterday on our daily webcast for NORML we interviewed Dale Sky Clare, a spokesperson for Proposition 19, the initiative that will ask Californians to vote on a very limited form of marijuana legalization. We discussed the latest polling on the initiative from SurveyUSA, showing a 50%-to-40% lead for the measure.
We dug through the demographics to find that older and more conservative people are the only groups more likely to oppose the measure ( no, really? ), support is greatest among the young and in the Bay Area ( who knew? ), and support among comedians named “Cheech” or “Chong” is approaching 100% ( OK, I made the last one up. )
But there is one growing demographic group that no poll has begun to track: medical marijuana dispensary owners.
Since the Regulate, Control, and Tax Cannabis Initiative was mercifully truncated to a headline-friendly “Prop 19″ by virtue of making it on the California ballot, I have been tracking on our NORML Stash Blog the stories of dispensary owners who are publicly opposing the legalization of the product they sell, even shelling out money they’ve made from selling marijuana to oppose its legalization!
Paul Jury just posted Legalize It? Ask a Guy Who Runs a Medicinal Marijuana Dispensary in which he speaks to Craig, a dispensary owner in Venice Beach, who is also opposed to Prop 19:
“I’ll give you two reasons,” Craig said. “One is big tobacco. Did you know that Phillip Morris just bought 400 acres of land up in Northern California? The minute marijuana becomes legal, they’ll mass produce and flood the market. And of course, they’ll add the same toxins they put in regular cigarettes to get you addicted, and very little THC, so you’ll have to buy more… In short, they’re going to ruin weed.” He gestured around his beloved shop, with every flavor of every strain, in its purist form, selling for at-cost prices. “I like the way things are now.”
Remember how alcohol prohibition ended in the 1930’s ( probably not, but indulge me ) and Anheuser, Busch, Coors, and Miller flooded the market with 3.2 beer and ruined alcohol? Wouldn’t it be nice if we could go to shops with every flavor of every micro-brew, in its purest form… oh, wait, I live in Portland, Oregon, the micro-brew capital of America and that’s what we have right now under alcohol legalization!
We have every flavor and potency of beer you can imagine plus people can go buy a kit and brew their own beer if they like. And there is wine, too, with a huge tourist industry that depends on people checking out vineyards and tasting endless varieties of vino. And there is whiskey, rum, tequila, vodka, brandy, and even super-potent Everclear in some states, all in their purest form, which is to say that used responsibly they won’t make you blind like a tub of Prohibition moonshine might.
The “Philip Morris / RJ Reynolds Toxic Addictive High-less Marijuana Market Flood” scare has been floating around the cannabis community like a stale hit of schwag for decades now. It’s a form of conspiracy theory thinking embraced by the kind of people who think you could plant 40,000 lbs. of explosives surreptitiously in a busy World Trade Center or convince all the world’s scientists and a very large soundstage crew to keep quiet about that faked moon landing for four decades. Here’s why it’s stupid:
* Prop 19 allows you to grow your own. If Philip Morris’ weed sucks, you’ll smoke your own or your friend’s.
* Prop 19 allows cities to consider sales. Bad toxic Philip Morris weed is the kind of competition a purveyor of hand-trimmed, non-keifed*, organic high-potency bud would want, wouldn’t she?
* Prop 19 allows cities to regulate production. They can dictate exactly what is or isn’t added to cannabis, how much is produced, by whom, and where.
* In order for Philip Morris to sell their weed, somebody has to want to smoke it. Nothing about Prop 19 makes Prop 215 or the dispensaries go away. In fact, it gives the existing dispensaries the potential to serve even more customers. So who’s buying this toxic addictive high-less marijuana?
No, if you want to really understand what is going on here, look back to that alcohol prohibition and ask yourself how excited Al Capone was reading the headlines trumpeting its imminent repeal. It’s not a perfect analogy, as Capone was a murderous criminal thug and these dispensary owners are law-abiding businesspeople. And yes, dispensary owners, like Craig, often help destitute cancer patients for free, though one could counter that Capone and his gangs gave out free turkeys on Thanksgiving. My main point is that both are businesspeople dealing in a prohibited product.
Or just look back to the article on Craig:
He gestured around his beloved shop, with every flavor of every strain, in its purist form, selling for at-cost prices. “I like the way things are now.”
“Last month,” Craig explained proudly, “there were 24 operating marijuana collectives in Venice. A month from now, there will only be two. And we’ll be one of them.” With that, he opened the door to the inner sanctum. The “product” room.
Now, if you ran a business where you could sell your product for $5-$15 per GRAM or $200 to $800 per OUNCE, and you only had to compete with one other business in your local area, would you be excited about the prospect of many more competitors and prices dropping as much as 80%? Most of your customers already got their Prop 215 recommendation, so it isn’t as if legalization is going to bring you enough additional customers to offset the change in business margins.
Prop 19 means that marijuana retailers become more like other retail businesses, instead of the loosely-regulated turnkey goldmines they have been. That’s what Craig doesn’t like. Well, that and kids smoking pot:
“Two, legalization will mean more fifteen-year-old kids smoking pot. If they legalize marijuana, there’s no chance that fewer 15-year-olds will smoke. And there’s a good chance that more will. Anything that will probably make more 15-year-olds put substances in their bodies, in my opinion, is a bad thing.”
Really, the “What About the Children?!?” argument? Right now, under prohibition, 85% of high school seniors and 69% of sophomores ( a.k.a. fifteen-year-olds ) find it easy to get weed. Right now, under prohibition, kids say it is easier to buy marijuana than alcohol. So it appears to me that locking up healthy adults for their marijuana use hasn’t really done much to stop teens from getting and using pot. How about we try letting adults smoke a joint, and when they go to buy it, they buy it from a regulated shop where only adults are let in and all IDs are rigorously checked, you know, like that alcohol kids find harder to buy.
Besides, there is no reason to believe that youth use will increase. Since California passed Prop 215 in 1996, the regime Craig likes now, teen use of marijuana has decreased. Prop 19 makes the penalty for supplying weed to those under 21 as stringent as supplying alcohol to those under 21. And we’ve seen teen use of tobacco, a legal substance far cheaper and more addictive than marijuana, plummet in the past ten years through education, advertising restriction, social disapproval ( no indoor smoking, for example ) and strict ID requirements.
Craig and the other dispensary owners who oppose Prop 19 are the “I Gots Mine” element of the anti-legalization campaign. They’ve got the corner on a retail market worth billions, one that is only worth billions if you arrest 850,000 mostly-black-and-brown adults a year for participating in it. They’ve got their doctors happy to take a Benjamin or two to give you permission to use a drug safer than the aspirin you need no permission for. I wouldn’t want people to vote to change that, either….except that I think it’s just immoral to arrest people for smoking weed if we’re going to leave them alone when drinking alcohol. I don’t care if it is profitable to the state or detrimental to the dispensary industry – arrests for marijuana are wrong, period.
*”Kiefed” means to shake loose the crystals of THC from the product before packaging for sale. The crystals, or “kief” are collected and smoked or vaporized, and, being THC crystals, are very effective. Philip Morris will certainly need to use huge machines to process weed, which will certainly shake loose a lot of kief. One grower friend of mine says he will advertise for his prized buds with the slogan “Don’t let ‘em thief the kief!”
 
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An interesting case in point is the following......

Compare the Marc Emory extradition for selling cannabis seeds via mail order.

V.s.

Not one single distiller of booze or brewer of beer from Canada was extradited to the U.S. during the Alcohol prohibition days.

It appears the corporate interest in protecting artificial monopolies has become deep rooted.

Whatever happened to the "Free Markets" the Capitalist system offers?

Oh, I get it now, it's only as free as those already in control of our governments on both sides of the 49th parallel want it to be.

Just remember that when these thieving greedy pricks want our votes.

If they ever expect me to bend over, they better pucker suckers.:moon:
 
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JackTheGrower

It's like blaming the Hippies for the Vietnam war.

Sure Marc was one of the first but the Cat is out of the Bag now.

Anyone know the snail mail for Marc?
 
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CrumpleZone

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SENDING MARC MAIL

SENDING MARC MAIL

JackTheGrower said:
It's like blaming the Hippies for the Vietnam war.

Sure Marc was one of the first but the Cat is out of the Bag now.

Anyone know the snail mail for Marc?
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http://freemarc.ca/group/freemarcca/send-mail-and-money-marc-emery-us-federal-prison

Be sure to check the link above for a list of thirty(!) official rules that need to be observed for mail to reach the addressee before sending anything.

SENDING MARC MAIL


ALL MAIL IS READ BY PRISON OFFICIALS. Do not write about illegal activities or anything that you feel might jeaopordize your safety. The formal guidelines are listed below.

Photos are permitted (up to 25 per envelope), but don't send pictures of bongs, marijuana use or plants, nudity, or anything illegal because it will be refused.

You must include a return address or the mail will be returned to you. You can use an address different from your home if you want to keep that information private.

MARC SCOTT EMERY #40252-086 Unit DB
FDC SEATAC
PO BOX 13900
SEATTLE, WA
98198-1090
USA

Please write to Marc about what you're doing in your life, the activism you've done, the silly little pleasures and joys of your day, the news about what's happening in the world and your area, etc. Prison life is just endless boring repetition, cut off from the outside. Nothing ever changes and nothing new ever happens, so Marc would really appreciate getting reports from the outside world! Marc writes back to everyone who sends him a letter, too!
 
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World-Wide Marc Emery Rallies

World-Wide Marc Emery Rallies

On September 18th rallies will be taking place all across the globe to remind Vic Toews and the Conservative Government that Canadians and indeed the world, want Marc Emery brought back to Canada and set free!

If you go to WhyProhibition.ca you can find out if there is already a rally organized in your city. If not, it's pretty easy to organize one...

Just login and create an event. Then if you check out the Shout-Out function (whyprohibition.ca/content/shout-out) they'll invite everyone within 40km of you in the WhyProhibition.ca database, to help you get a higher turn-out.

Personally, I've never organized a rally before, but I'm gonna try!
 
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audacity

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5 Years in prison for selling seeds for a plant. I grow sick to my stomach to see the world that I grew up trusting would betray me with the reality of our own humanity. I am so ashamed to be human.
 
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rick shaw

He will more then likely be deported at the end of sentence.I am glad he is looking at short time,i have done five years it is not fun but it is doable,when this shit started they were screaming for fifteen to life WTF
 
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biteme

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there is no parole in the federal system. whatever sentence marc has to serve, with good behavior he must still do 85% of it behind bars. feds call it the sentencing reform act. another huge joke.

bottom line, and the whole point behind getting marc emery is to shut him up. and for 85% of five years, that will happen. marc will lose access to the media even if it means a solitary confinement cell so deep they have to pump him air. without access to the press, the prince loses power which is the ultimate goal of these pricks in charge of the drug war. peace-biteme
 
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JackTheGrower

rick shaw said:
He will more then likely be deported at the end of sentence.I am glad he is looking at short time,i have done five years it is not fun but it is doable,when this shit started they were screaming for fifteen to life WTF
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I guess he can say he was never convicted of a Felony in Canada eh!
 
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headband 707

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The DEA should be locked up!

The DEA should be locked up!

No matter how they look at this these guys should be locked up for making us live in this Orwelling state for so long. Enough is enough and we have enough info about the positive effect of cannabis to sink their ship. So why isn't it sinking I wonder? This whole thing is one big joke and we are the brunt of that joke. Anyone locked up for seeds or cannabis should be let out immediately with compensation for ignorance . Good luck Marc peace out Headband707
 
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