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USA: GPS Tracking Without a Warrant Declared Legal

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In~Plain~Site

Good thing I park in my garage....

Then again, it is Time magazine.
 

Phedrosbenny

Trying to have a good day
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Thanks for posting it..It was a good read.Hopefully this will get overturned.If not I fear the beginning of the end may be at hand.Time to stock up.
 

hamstring

Well-known member
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Ihave a crazy question just for fun.

So they put a GPS on your vehicle without a warrant and you have detected it. It's yours right I mean what the fuck its on my property I own it now?

I can see with a warrant it wouldn’t be legal but without one???????
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tokinafaty420

You can find devices that detect tracking bugs such as these GPS locators for around $500. They are legal to buy and own. I would destroy any tracking device regardless of their threats of prosecuting you. I doubt if they get to the point of tracking your movements that you would be worried about such a stupid charge compared to what they were watching you originally for.

Also what needs to happen is the cops and public officials need the same kind of treatment they are dishing out. Watch Will Smith's movie called Enemy of the State, more specifically the part where the bald head guy with glasses gets involved. They turn all the tactics and devices used by the government to stress out and locate people against the government who deployed them in the first place. Giving them a taste of their own medicine.
 
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CANNATOPIA

For me they will see someone going ta the store & getting groceries etc like everyone does but I never drive with my meds so they would be fuc*ed in my case. & If I find anything weird im feeding it to a local cow or pig. I don't really see this as being of much use against small personal medical growers but I do see where this could be a threat/problem to large-scale growers delivering large amounts of cannabis to Des or co-op. It's just sad we are even talking about this. It is an absolutely Disgusting maneuver on their part.
 

Marshall

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You can find devices that detect tracking bugs such as these GPS locators for around $500..


Can you provide a link? Last time I looked there was nothing available.

The issue is GPS receives a signal and does not transmit. So there is no way to detect if anything is actually receiving the signal.

There are GPS that use a cellular device to communicate but those are not usually used by LEO. They need to be hard or wired to the car or battery life lasts 1-2 days.
 

Marshall

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Well this ruling only applies to that circuit and those states in it. Apparently that circuit has made plenty of rulings that are extreme such as allowing prisoners to vote, etc. It seems the supreme court overrules a bit of their rulings.

I believe other areas have ruled opposite of this and hopefully the supreme court will overrule this.


did anyone read the whole article? The court said if you have a fence around your yard, you have expected privacy and no GPS device can be planted. If you dont, then no expected privacy. So basically if you cant afford a fence, you are screwed. Thats the view some are taking, that only the rich are protected. Of course once in public everyone is screwed

This country is going to hell
 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
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Agreed with Marshall, our rights are constantly being eroded by overzealous cops, DA's, and judges in response to whiny little citizens that are terrified of everything, real or imagined. We are the proverbial "frog in the pan of water" sitting on the stove, slowly coming to a boil and not jumping out.

If I find one of those trackers I'm putting it on a Greyhound bus to the east coast, closing down all operations in my home county and making tracks.
 

supermanlives

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You can find devices that detect tracking bugs such as these GPS locators for around $500. They are legal to buy and own. I would destroy any tracking device regardless of their threats of prosecuting you. I doubt if they get to the point of tracking your movements that you would be worried about such a stupid charge compared to what they were watching you originally for.

Also what needs to happen is the cops and public officials need the same kind of treatment they are dishing out. Watch Will Smith's movie called Enemy of the State, more specifically the part where the bald head guy with glasses gets involved. They turn all the tactics and devices used by the government to stress out and locate people against the government who deployed them in the first place. Giving them a taste of their own medicine.
i have done buisness with greatsouthernsecurity.---. great gear great prices
 

supermanlives

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if you find a device smash it and instantly clean up shop cause your screwed. my friend once found one and brought it to his lawyers office. he was busted a week later. the fool didnt clean up
 
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guest456mpy

You can find devices that detect tracking bugs such as these GPS locators for around $500. They are legal to buy and own. I would destroy any tracking device regardless of their threats of prosecuting you. I doubt if they get to the point of tracking your movements that you would be worried about such a stupid charge compared to what they were watching you originally for.

Destroying the device alerts them to the fact you know what they are up to. Better to buy some time. I would casually drive to a parking lot of a shopping mall and transfer it to another random car. Then I would go home, tear down and "sanitize" my grow area. Then wait to see what happens next.
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

We are Farmers
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Destroying the device alerts them to the fact you know what they are up to. Better to buy some time. I would casually drive to a parking lot of a shopping mall and transfer it to another random car. Then I would go home, tear down and "sanitize" my grow area. Then wait to see what happens next.

If one had stainless steel balls they could put it on cap car, let them track one of their own around.
 
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guest456mpy

If one had stainless steel balls they could put it on cap car, let them track one of their own around.

Yeah, true... But more noticeable for sure, eh.
I don't think I have enough "James Bond" left in me at my age, LOL!
 

Mudita

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http://gizmodo.com/5622807/how-to-stop-the-government-from-tracking-your-location

http://www.thejammerstore.com/

http://gadget.brando.com/car-cigarette-anti-gps-system_p00963c024d001.html

http://ezinearticles.com/?How-To-Detect-GPS-Tracking-Units&id=894204
The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals just decided that it was legal for the police to put a GPS tracking device on your car, sitting in your driveway, on your property. Here's how to protect yourself.

Matt's post about the decision explains more about the ruling. To quickly summarize, the supreme court says that police can look through things that anyone in the public could come across, meaning, your driveway is freely accessible to the public, hence, the cops can shove a GPS locator onto your car. Then they can use it track you. Without a warrant.

How do you stop this without combing over the underside—or perhaps even inside—of your car and finding the GPS tracker? With technology.

Your first bet is probably to find out if someone is tracking you or not. You can turn here for cellphone and bug device detectors. But these aren't 100%, so if you're really paranoid and want to hide your location, you'll want to just go ahead and stop the trackers anyway.

The first type is a GPS jammer, which is technically illegal to buy and use in the US, so keep that in mind. These types of GPS jammers plug into the cigarette lighter in your car, and will "prohibit GPS signal" up to 10 meters. Ten meters isn't too far, but it isn't super close either, so cars next to you might get some GPS interference as you drive down the road.

This model is $33. There are handheld and higher-powered versions available for slightly more. Our friends at Brando have one too, for $50.

If you're worried that someone is tracking your cellphone, there's a signal blocking bag for about $10 that you can shove your device into when not in use.

You also have the cellphone-type trackers, which need to be stopped with a different device: a cellphone jammer. There are various portable versions, as well as ones that go into your car. These types of jammers are as illegal as the GPS ones, so again, know what you're getting into.

Is it worth it to go to the potential legal troubles of owning and operating a GPS or cellphone jammer if you're not doing anything wrong? That's up to you to decide. But if you are doing something that you want to make sure the government doesn't know about and they're already surveilling you, it might already be too late to get one of these. [The Jammer Store]
 
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Sir_Nugget

good now all we need is tag all the homeless drunks, and make em wear bracelet style BAC monitors.. would decrease our national debt by much over time..
 
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