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when to water?

should i water every 2 days? or every 3 days? and when i do water and the i use tea every 3rd water so i have 2 plain water days. than tea water. than 2 more plain water days than another tea water.

should i pH balance the plain water b4 i use it to water?
 
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Iron_Lion

There is no set schedule for when to water but the best method I have found goes like this. Take a pinch of your soil mix from and inch or 2 below the surface, roll it between your fingers, if it can be formed into a ball there is plenty of moisture and you can go another day or two. I wouldnt go too crazy with the teas, give it when the plants look like they want it, they can usually go a few weeks after a transplant.

As for pH, if your water from the tap is in the 6.0-6.9 range then you're probly all set to go without pHing. If your tap water is 7 or above and your soil mix is well amended with dolomite or oyster shells then I would recommend pHing any water or nutrient solution you give them to 6.0-6.5. Regardless of what many peeps here say pHing is still relevant in organic soil mix. i have found this out first hand. I also have well water which I have seen fluctuates a full point or two after heavy rains.
 

jaykush

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pretty much like iron lion said, get used to telling when your plants need water, and not going on schedules. schedules in organics will only get you so far, learning to read the plants will get you much further and high quality product.

what type of tea are you talking about? plain ol wormcastings tea can be used every water with no ill effects. in fact they will love you for it.
 

FlaDankster

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I also have well water which I have seen fluctuates a full point or two after heavy rains.


This is good info for me.....thanks IL

7.4-7.5 out of my well

Gonna see the difference when dry for a few days(if that shit happens!)and after a decent rain to see what i come up with.

FD
 
pretty much like iron lion said, get used to telling when your plants need water, and not going on schedules. schedules in organics will only get you so far, learning to read the plants will get you much further and high quality product.

what type of tea are you talking about? plain ol wormcastings tea can be used every water with no ill effects. in fact they will love you for it.

im gunna follow the beginners. using foxfarm soil with perlite,earthworm, dolomite lime. and the tea is peruvian seabird guano, High N bad guano ( high P for flower ) earthworm casting and maxicrop ( after team is made add liguid karma and black strap molasses)
 
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JackTheGrower

This is good info for me.....thanks IL

7.4-7.5 out of my well

Gonna see the difference when dry for a few days(if that shit happens!)and after a decent rain to see what i come up with.

FD

Do you have a sulphur well?

Smells like foul eggs.. Florida is famous for that.
 
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Iron_Lion

im gunna follow the beginners. using foxfarm soil with perlite,earthworm, dolomite lime. and the tea is peruvian seabird guano, High N bad guano ( high P for flower ) earthworm casting and maxicrop ( after team is made add liguid karma and black strap molasses)

Speaking from ALOT of experience with FF soil mixes for best results transplant to larger pots right before switching to 12/12 and for the first 2-3 weeks of flowering dont give them ANYTHING but plain water, and once a week give them a foliar feeding of maxicrop. This is by far the best method I have found for controlling stretch and keeping plants perfectly healthy. FF ocean forest is very nutrient dense and the maxi crop foliar feed gives them a quick shot of nitrogen and give a good dose of all the great things found in seaweed.

Also to improve the results from ocean forest cut it 50/50 with fox farm light warrior. Also P.S.G is some strong stuff so if youre going to use it go easy because it can really burn the shit out of your plants.
 
Speaking from ALOT of experience with FF soil mixes for best results transplant to larger pots right before switching to 12/12 and for the first 2-3 weeks of flowering dont give them ANYTHING but plain water, and once a week give them a foliar feeding of maxicrop. This is by far the best method I have found for controlling stretch and keeping plants perfectly healthy. FF ocean forest is very nutrient dense and the maxi crop foliar feed gives them a quick shot of nitrogen and give a good dose of all the great things found in seaweed.

Also to improve the results from ocean forest cut it 50/50 with fox farm light warrior. Also P.S.G is some strong stuff so if youre going to use it go easy because it can really burn the shit out of your plants.


i think i will give that a try. anything else master? lol
 

FlaDankster

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Do you have a sulphur well?

Smells like foul eggs.. Florida is famous for that.

No sulphur well here......but i know what ya mean about the smell of nasty egg.

I live about 35-45 min from a spring thats REEKS TO HIGH HEAVEN of sulphur.Was known as a healing spring back in the late 1800's an early 1900's,said to cure anything from the common cold to maritial problems.

I pretty much live on top of the basin of the Ichetucknee River....pretty darn good water.

FD
 

One Love

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"when to water?"

When the pot feels light.

Pick up your pot after you've watered and remember how heavy it feels, then pick it up several days later when it is almost completely dry. Now you know how light the pot is when it needs to be watered again. Keep practicing this method and you will be on your way to giving your plants what they want, when they need it.
Goodluck!
 
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JackTheGrower

No sulphur well here......but i know what ya mean about the smell of nasty egg.

I live about 35-45 min from a spring thats REEKS TO HIGH HEAVEN of sulphur.Was known as a healing spring back in the late 1800's an early 1900's,said to cure anything from the common cold to maritial problems.

I pretty much live on top of the basin of the Ichetucknee River....pretty darn good water.

FD

Ever been to Felsmere? Between Vero Beach and Melbourn back towards the swamp.

I lived there and West Melbourn.
 
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JackTheGrower

"when to water?"

When the pot feels light.

Pick up your pot after you've watered and remember how heavy it feels, then pick it up several days later when it is almost completely dry. Now you know how light the pot is when it needs to be watered again. Keep practicing this method and you will be on your way to giving your plants what they want, when they need it.
Goodluck!

I've been experimenting with not watering when flipping to 12/12 to reduce the stretch but what I see this year, since this is a very mild summer, is that when i water the box they grow more.

Well they have to have deep roots now these are Revegers and what a year old now? Near a year old plants in a planter bed 4x4x2 of soil.
 

FlaDankster

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Ever been to Felsmere? Between Vero Beach and Melbourn back towards the swamp.

I lived there and West Melbourn.

No sir......raised in s.fla but been gone for years.

Google Ichetucknee river or springs,it's a beautiful place.

I see you are in a much friendlier state now.:wave:

FD
 

Rusty420

Member
lift the pot wet, lift it later when its dry,,, water when the pot feels light,,,6.3-6.6 should be good, go easy with the teas, less on a regular basis is better than more every so often. :) sound info above..:) most people dont water enough to saturate the containers medium, hence the need to water more frequently.:yes:
 
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NinoBrown420

"when to water?"

When the pot feels light.

Pick up your pot after you've watered and remember how heavy it feels, then pick it up several days later when it is almost completely dry. Now you know how light the pot is when it needs to be watered again. Keep practicing this method and you will be on your way to giving your plants what they want, when they need it.
Goodluck!


Spot on, spot on...
 

habeeb

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no schedule as to many variables:

-plant size
-humidity
-temp
-fans
-Co2
-pot size
-lighting
...


3 steps need to be considered in watering.

1. don't overwater or underwater. very self explanatory. don't water when the soil has enough moisture. second, don't not water when the soil is bone dry.

2. a very good plan is water when 50% out. weight it if you want on a scale, or better what we call the lift test, lift the pots all the time, and determine the water left in the pots

3. reading the leaf. reading the leaf can be good, as when you walk in the morning and see the droop, you went to far, so calculate the pot weight the day before, and water before the droop as it stresses the plant to be in that stage. you can also get droop by overwatering, as you then choke the roots by not enough air... there are some other leaf droop symptoms, but this is about watering
 

rasputin

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Another one for the lift the pot method. Once you get a feel for that you're in good shape. Plus, after a little bit of time you start to get a feel for when they need water or to be feed. Learn to read the plant and they'll love you for it.
 

Kaneh

Member
Lifting pots got little complicated for me this summer. I had pots between 5 liters and 50 liters.
Small pots felt always dry and big ones wet... :)
 
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