Subculture M - Glomus Mushrooms

[Seneca]

I've been using GH Subculture M in my organic soil mix for over a year. Lately, a couple of my older mothers have been producing mushroom flushes. It's nice to see fruit of the mycorrhizal/plant relationship.

It appears to be a Glomus from the Subculture M.

"Glomus is a genus of arbuscular mycorrhizal (AM) fungi, and all species form symbiotic relationships (mycorrhizas) with plant roots. Glomus is the largest genus of AM fungi, with ca. 90 species described, but as currently defined is non-monophyletic."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glomus_(fungus)

 

[pseudopod]

Nifty. Do you have any concerns about overpopulation of mycorrhizal colonies, or is everything copacetic?

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

woah dude thats fucking funny... that is deffinently a first i would freak if i seen something like that... panic mode like wtf???

 

[Mud Man]

amazing.. i am shocked... How much myc do you add to your mix.. Is It very heavy? - HOW OLD ARE YOUR MOTHERS, how long did this take ?
Excellent shots and info... I am with Poopy, i would shite myself if i saw that on a brisk evening nanner patrol But touche; it shows symbiosis and that is happiness

 

[Mud Man]

SENECA...do you see this on the top of your pots at all, or is that a different type of fungi to Glomus?
I get fungi slight fungi on tops and have attributed it to the same relationship you mention here, but it is more of a web like structure... Is this just MYC webs extending to the surface, or is it another form of 'Subculture' fungi ? Hope this makes some sense
I am on a search, great info as i said..

 

[Seneca]

SENECA...do you see this on the top of your pots at all, or is that a different type of fungi to Glomus?
I get fungi slight fungi on tops and have attributed it to the same relationship you mention here, but it is more of a web like structure... Is this just MYC webs extending to the surface, or is it another form of 'Subculture' fungi ? Hope this makes some sense
I am on a search, great info as i said..

I'm not a mushroom expert, novice at best, but have spawned many rice cakes and hunted on the Oregon coast & Florida pastors. I've learned a ton just today researching, hopefully some real mycologist will tell us some more about the types of mushrooms in GH Subculture M.

I've seen a couple of flushes of Glomus fruit on the soil surface a 1-2 weeks ago. Until now I only saw the web like mycorrhiza grow in the soil and sclerotia chunks.

Here's a current shot of some dried Glomus on the soil surface. This Chemdog IX-III mother is year or so old. The RH levels are 60% and no sign of any molds or pests. Its smells of fresh mushrooms and great soil.



Once the mycorrhizal fungus reaches the fruiting stage and conditions are right, you will see mushrooms appearing. Hopefully, the desirable & beneficial kind.

"As with other AM fungi, all Glomus species are thought to be obligate symbionts, dependent on their mycorrhizal association with plant roots to complete their life cycle. They cannot be cultured in the laboratory in the absence of a plant host. Glomus species are found in nearly all terrestrial habitats, including arable land, deserts, grasslands, tropical forests, and tundras.

Arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi can provide numerous benefits to their plant hosts, including improved nutrient uptake, drought resistance, and disease resistance. However, the symbiosis is not mutualistic in all circumstances and may often be parasitic, with a detrimental effect on plant growth. Rarely, some plant species can parasitise the fungi." - wikipedia

I just looked under the pots, every opening on the bottom has a Glomus flush.



I just did a major cut back to the Chemdog IX-III a couple of weeks ago, so it's still recovering.



Mushrooms are fascinating, delicious & sometime intoxicating...

 

[3rdEye]

Wonderful shots Seneca. Those are some happy plants with that kind of uberhealthy symbiosis going on in the soil. Good work. I hope some of my mother plants will show similar signs someday.

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Very cool pictures.

 

[Seneca]

Thanks everyone!

Nifty. Do you have any concerns about overpopulation of mycorrhizal colonies, or is everything copacetic?

I'm not sure if this amount of flushing is good thing or sign of too much mycorrhizal growth.

"Arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi can provide numerous benefits to their plant hosts, including improved nutrient uptake, drought resistance, and disease resistance. However, the symbiosis is not mutualistic in all circumstances and may often be parasitic, with a detrimental effect on plant growth. Rarely, some plant species can parasitise the fungi." - wikipedia

I'm guessing it's not a bad sign, time will tell...

 

[Mud Man]

This thread is gonna dive off the deep end diving board, little swan, pirouette and splash into serious mycology... i am rooted and ready to see developments... Awaiting the Mycologists to appear

 

[Mud Man]

I've seen a couple of flushes of Glomus fruit on the soil surface a 1-2 weeks ago. Until now I only saw the web like mycorrhiza grow in the soil and sclerotia chunks.

excellent, many thanks

 

[guest2012y]

Where's Quadracer..or Mr.Fista?.......
I've actually had mushrooms in my indoor beds,and to a lesser degree in some pots. Interesting stuff....I'm a mushroom hunter/amature cultivator.

 

[frikn squirrel]

Fascinating... thank you for sharing.

 

[Seneca]

Ok, I'm fruiting away too many Glomus Mushrooms in the mothers soil. Water uptake is very slow because of the destiny of the colonizes of the fruiting and network.

The Question is this amount of Glomus harmful the mothers? The veg grow has been slow, with very short densely spaced nodes, that be poor cuttings.

I'm thinking of re-potting the 2 mothers, anyone experience this much flushing every? Thanks

 

[hash head]

someone mix in some PC cakes and see what happens.. maybe get a cover for the top of the soil to shade it?

 

[MrFista]

Not a mycologist, not even close.

I'd be collecting spores from those fruit for your future potting/planting operations. Alternately just dry the entire fruiting structures out and blend it up as a powdered potting amendment. That way you can make yourself some better soil than the shop stuff and still benefit from added mycorrhizae.

Slow growth? Overwatered?

 

[rick shaw]

Interesting,I would like to see p.cyanescens as part of the mix.

 

[Seneca]

Not a mycologist, not even close.

I'd be collecting spores from those fruit for your future potting/planting operations. Alternately just dry the entire fruiting structures out and blend it up as a powdered potting amendment. That way you can make yourself some better soil than the shop stuff and still benefit from added mycorrhizae.

Slow growth? Overwatered?

I've been recycling soil for awhile and much of the used soil has dense mycorrhizas growth. I just break it up and re-amend with kelp & lime and season the soil.

I think my mother soil has crossed the line from healthy beneficial growth to overly dense Glomus spawn cultures. I think they would have better veg growth after a heavy root prune and fresh soil.

Overwater? Maybe, but the container weights fell right.

Interesting,I would like to see p.cyanescens as part of the mix.

Sure be nice to have them in the same space, but Cyanescens need a cold spell to start fruiting and love landscape much & Alder chips.

 

[guest2012y]

I've been recycling soil for awhile and much of the used soil has dense mycorrhizas growth. I just break it up and re-amend with kelp & lime and season the soil.

I think my mother soil has crossed the line from healthy beneficial growth to overly dense Glomus spawn cultures. I think they would have better veg growth after a heavy root prune and fresh soil.

Overwater? Maybe, but the container weights fell right.



Sure be nice to have them in the same space, but Cyanescens need a cold spell to start fruiting and love landscape much & Alder chips.

Cool to hear of others recycling soil.....don't hear much of that.

 

[MrFista]

Interesting Seneca.

I think you are correct and have made a kickass mother culture of fungus to the detriment of your plants.

Now you can innoculate everything in sight, nice.

A root trim does sounds right, gives you a chance to take a good look at the fungus too. Perhaps once the substrate is saturated with mycelium they fruit and ignore their symbiotic responsibilities a bit while doing so (reproduction is expensive).

Shame it's a Mum plant, I'd love to see/hear how it flowers in that pot.