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18 days until harvest Spotting Powder Mildew

someotherguy

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2 parts milk 8 parts water. Use 2% milk. Put into strong sprayer. Blast the crap out of the plants. Spray everywhere. Take you time. Spray under leaves. Spray top down and blast off the pm. Make sure everything is dry before turning the lights back on.

I have had todo this treatment on two grows so far. Saved most of my yield. You may have to re-spray every 5-7 days to keep the pm held back.


just wanted to second what Herborizer already said, milk
will get rid of your pm worries and unlike other chemical
remedies, it is in fact, good for your plants, it actually boosts
the plants immune system.

it also has no effect on the flavor of the cured bud.

anyway, here is some info i found when hunting for
my own solution to pm.

peace, SOG

Milk is a useful fungicide in the garden, and is more effective than standard chemical brands.


Researchers believe the potassium phosphate in milk boosts a plant's immune system to fight the fungi.

Where most organic gardeners use a baking soda, soap and oil solution, milk may be substituted to combat the unwanted fungus.

Preparing a Milk Solution and Spraying Schedule

The correct dilution and spraying schedule for garden plants depends on the situation and takes some trial and error.

A milk fungicide solution can range from 1 part milk to 9 parts water, to a strong, milk-only solution. A 1:1 dilution may work for a week, but a 1:8 solution requires spraying every 3 or 4 days.

Skim milk may work better than whole milk, as the higher fat milk may clog a sprayer; even reconstituted powdered milk works.

Uses for Milk Fungicide

Milk was originally used in the garden to treat powdery mildew on squash plants. It is now also commonly used on flowers such as rudebekia (Black-eyed Susans) and Begonias to cure powdery mildew.

Milk has also been used to cure Botrytis on a Cyclamen houseplant. This was applied full strength every morning (leftover breakfast milk). Rotten leaves were picked away and the plant pulled through with no more Botrytis.

Black spots and rust on roses can be controlled but not cured with milk. Fortunately, milk can prevent the spread of these fungi to other plants and new leaves. This can be very useful when bringing home a plant from the nursery and finding a black spot.


The copyright of the article Milk as a Garden Fungicide for Powdery Mildew, Botrytis, and Black Spots in Organic Gardening is owned by Deborah Turton. Permission to republish Milk as a Garden Fungicide for Powdery Mildew, Botrytis, and Black Spots in print or online must be granted by the author in writing.


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by Arzeena Hamir
Powdery Mildew

Less than 3 years ago, researchers in South America discovered a new alternative to controlling powdery mildew. Wagner Bettiol, a scientist from Brazil, found that weekly sprays of milk controlled powdery mildew in zucchini just as effectively as synthetic fungicides such as fenarimol or benomyl. Not only was milk found to be effective at controlling the disease, it also acted as a foliar fertilizer, boosting the plant's immune system.

Powdery mildew in the cucurbit family is caused by the organism Sphaerotheca Fuliginea. It is a serious disease that occurs worldwide. For decades, organic gardeners had to rely on making a spray from baking soda to control the disease. Now, instead of measuring out the baking soda and combining it with a surfactant (a "sticking" substance) of either oil or soap, gardeners need only head for their refrigerators.

In his experiments with zucchini plants, Bettiol found that a weekly spray of milk at a concentration of at least 10% (1 part milk to 9 parts water) significantly reduced the severity of powdery mildew infection on the plants by 90%. While some gardeners may be tempted to increase the concentration of milk for more control, Bettiol found that once concentrations rose above 30%, an innoccuous fungus began to grow on the plants. How does milk control powdery mildew?

Scientist aren't 100% sure how milk works to control this disease. It seems that milk is a natural germicide. In addition, it contains several naturally occurring salts and amino acids that are taken up by the plant. From previous experiments using sodium bicarbonate, potassium phosphate, and other salts, researchers have found that the disease is sensitive to these salts. It is possible then, that milk boosts the plant's immune system to prevent the disease.

Milk used around the world
The benefits of using milk to control powdery mildew haven't been isolated to Brazil. Melon growers in New Zealand are saving thousands of dollars every year by spraying their crops with milk instead of synthetic fungicides. The melon growers in New Zealand have been so successful that the wine industry is taking notice and beginning experiments using milk to control powdery mildew in grapes.

What kind of milk should be used?
In Bettiol's original experiment, fresh milk was used, straight from the cow. However, this is obviously not feasible to most home gardeners. The research work in New Zealand actually found that using skim milk was just as effective. Not only was it cheaper, but the fact that the milk had no fat content meant that there was less chance of any odours.

Wagner Bettiol's original article was published in the journal Crop Science (Vol. 18, 1999, pp. 489-92).
 

someotherguy

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Kiss em goodbye...don't smoke it and certinly don't be shadey nd sell it...start over again...good luck chap

you don't have to toss the whole crop for a little pm
on the fan leaves man.

and Merlin, to get rid of the pm, just mix up some milk
and water, i'd make it 50/50 at first and weaken it over
time.

what i did was to spray a few times a week, gradually
spraying less and less frequently until the pm stopped
coming back, took about a month, maybe 6 weeks.

anyway, because it's just milk, you can spray right up
until the day before you harvest.

believe me, when you spray the first time you will be
amazed as the pm just disappears.

good luck, SOG

btw, as has already been said, any plan to deal with pm
must also include better circulation and lower humidity.
 

PuReKnOwLeDgE

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If the food in your fridge counts on your plants the small investment of a sulfur burner is well worth its price. Never had to use mine but it is always there to save my ass. Right next to the floramite :)
 

intotheunknown

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i am having the same issue, right at about the same timing as well.

i was recommended Serenade Garden and just tried it out for the first time tonight.

anybody else used this before? i will let you all know how it works out. im really hoping that i dont get ill effects of any sort.
 

Xtensity

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Try spraying the girls with a 3% solution of H202.... Just go to your local pharmacy and buy a small black bottle of it... Pour directly into a spray bottle that willl atomize the solution into a fine mist.... Just remove the leaves that have it bad, and the solution can be sprayed directly onto buds.

The H2O2 prevents more mold from forming and also acts as a disinfectant... It stops other anaerobic[non oxygen using] bacteria like mold and PM from forming because H2O2 is unstable in the sense that it can readily donate oxygen atoms.

H2O2 is nontoxic in such small dilutions and breaks down VERY quickly. I think it breaks down in like 1-3 days in light.... The moment you open the bottle of the stuff it starts breaking down into water. I believe the shelf life after you open the bottle is 45 days, while it is sealed... Meaning once it is sprayed, it will be gone very soon after since it is exposed to light and open oxygen. Very safe and very effective.

Just make sure you dont spray with the lights on, and keep the lights off for a few hours after spraying.... I forgot about this and was puzzeled when I noticed leaves on my plants started getting severely burned for non-nutrient related reasons... and I couldn't figure out why lol. Realized the problem after harvest XD. The water droplets will magnify the intensity of the light and burn the leaves... so spray in the dark and leave them in the dark for a while so it can evaporate.

That's just 1 of the MANY fixes for PM.. I've even read vinegar can be sprayed directly onto plants without it affecting taste or having any side affects... Though I'm not sure what dilution you would use. You have to look this up... There's tons of PM cures. The vinegar lowers the PH of the leaves preventing the growth of mold or mildew and it also acts as a disinfectant. I've read people use a vinegar spray to disinfect kitchen counters over night... They say the vinegar smell is gone by the morning because the compound responsible for the smell[acetic acid], breaks down and evaporates.

If your case is bad just get a sulfur burner imo.

Neem oil works great, its organic, and you can use it late in flower right up to harvest without any detrimental effects on the plants. Sometimes they sell it at walmart as Schultz Fungicide 3 in a bluish green bottle, that works. Or you can get it in concentrated from at a garden shop and get a sprayer, that works a lot better imo and you get a lot more for your money. You can spray it all over the leaves, buds and stems and it won't harm it and prevent any pm from spreading to the sprayed areas.

That close to harvest will influence the taste of the buds to taste like neem, which personally I wouldn't want and I don't know who would.
 

someotherguy

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Try spraying the girls with a 3% solution of H202.... Just go to your local pharmacy and buy a small black bottle of it... Pour directly into a spray bottle that willl atomize the solution into a fine mist.... Just remove the leaves that have it bad, and the solution can be sprayed directly onto buds.

The H2O2 prevents more mold from forming and also acts as a disinfectant... It stops other anaerobic[non oxygen using] bacteria like mold and PM from forming because H2O2 is unstable in the sense that it can readily donate oxygen atoms.

H2O2 is nontoxic in such small dilutions and breaks down VERY quickly. I think it breaks down in like 1-3 days in light.... The moment you open the bottle of the stuff it starts breaking down into water. I believe the shelf life after you open the bottle is 45 days, while it is sealed... Meaning once it is sprayed, it will be gone very soon after since it is exposed to light and open oxygen. Very safe and very effective.

Just make sure you dont spray with the lights on, and keep the lights off for a few hours after spraying.... I forgot about this and was puzzeled when I noticed leaves on my plants started getting severely burned for non-nutrient related reasons... and I couldn't figure out why lol. Realized the problem after harvest XD. The water droplets will magnify the intensity of the light and burn the leaves... so spray in the dark and leave them in the dark for a while so it can evaporate.

That's just 1 of the MANY fixes for PM.. I've even read vinegar can be sprayed directly onto plants without it affecting taste or having any side affects... Though I'm not sure what dilution you would use. You have to look this up... There's tons of PM cures. The vinegar lowers the PH of the leaves preventing the growth of mold or mildew and it also acts as a disinfectant. I've read people use a vinegar spray to disinfect kitchen counters over night... They say the vinegar smell is gone by the morning because the compound responsible for the smell[acetic acid], breaks down and evaporates.

If your case is bad just get a sulfur burner imo.



That close to harvest will influence the taste of the buds to taste like neem, which personally I wouldn't want and I don't know who would.

all you need is milk man, no H2O2 needed, no sulfur
burner needed, just milk, 100% organic and not just
harmless to the plant, it's actually beneficial.
(more stringent methods might be needed in a large
operation but milk is all that is needed in a small grow)

read those articles i posted and if that isn't enough
info to convince you, ask Stitch, or better yet, buy
her book, it would be worth the money if they charged
twice the price.

[URL="http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Garden-Saver-Handbook-Healthy/dp/0932551912/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1278800008&sr=1-1"]Marijuana Garden Saver: Handbook for Healthy Plants by J. C. Stitch, and Ed Rosenthal[/url]

it should also go without saying that increased circulation
and lower humidity are also essential to controlling PM.

peace, SOG
 

HIGHINSP

Member
same problem

same problem

im about ready to spray my plants with milk to get rid of PM...i have two questions. 1 do i have to do this at night? 2 do i spray the buds directly? 3 do i need to dry or rinse the plant after applaction? Im growing out doors just FYI...high
 

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