passive plant killer

[Carl Carlson]

hey, carl, did you notice the ratio of peter's to calcinit you are using is 1/.63. there is probably very little difference between the jack's and peter's. the most notable one is the magnesium. i've been dropping ec also. currently trying 1.5.

Yes, I noticed after you mentioned the ratio. The calcium nitrate has come in extra handy. My tomato plants outside started showing BER, so I've been blasting them for the last few days with it...

 

[delta9nxs]

funny how similar the lives of people that grow pot are. yesterday i treated my 18 tomato plants to a big dose of calcinit too. ber also.

i was feeding them maxibloom alone at ec 2 when the ber occured. i put another 1000 ppm calcinit on them.

also got some calcium chloride dihydrate, reagent grade. it could be substituted for calcinit in flower to cut nitrate yet still maintain a decent calcium ratio. at jrpeterslab suggested dose 1.57 grams per gal should be a match for the calcium in calcinit.

i have not been able to borrow my friends triple beam again yet. i'll report when i do get the dose down.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Delta9/Carl...have either of you noticed any need for the extra Mg with this formula? I have just started using it and have not seen the need...but was wondering what you guys are seeing.

I am liking it at around 1.5EC.

btw...thank you both. I am thinking this is the best nute I have used to date...the fact that it is also the cheapest ain't a bad thing either

 

[Carl Carlson]

Yes, actually I do use the Epsom salts for 2:1 Ca:Mg ratio.

18 tomato plants, are you selling at the farmer's market, D9?

 

[delta9nxs]

Delta9/Carl...have either of you noticed any need for the extra Mg with this formula? I have just started using it and have not seen the need...but was wondering what you guys are seeing.

I am liking it at around 1.5EC.

btw...thank you both. I am thinking this is the best nute I have used to date...the fact that it is also the cheapest ain't a bad thing either

hey, yosemitesam!

the jacks has 6.32% magnesium so i'm not having to add any. but i think the peter's is 3. something, i don't know. in ro water that might be a little light. carl knows

 

[delta9nxs]

Yes, actually I do use the Epsom salts for 2:1 Ca:Mg ratio.

18 tomato plants, are you selling at the farmer's market, D9?

no, i'm just trying to grow them faster than the crows can eat them. there are four mated pairs of crows here. i call them the gang of eight. apparently i've expanded their culinary horizons by also offering squash, peppers, cucumbers, and watermelons, all of which they have now demonstrated a fondness for.

i made a half assed scarecrow but every time they see it they start smirking and pointing their wings at it in derision.

we're canning salsa and marinara sauce like crazy and i gave a bucket of them to the local rescue kitchen.

 

[Carl Carlson]

The Peters is 5-11-26 and 3.10% Mg

 

[YosemiteSam]

I am using the Jack's Pro Hydroponic plus calcium nitrate. I wasn't even close to paying enough attention...DOH. Anyways, obviously no Mg needed.

I also love the idea of cutting the calcium nitrate a little past half way into flower and replacing it with calcium chloride. I was following the H3ad formula before this and completely cutting N and all the micros...this seems a better approach but should still give me the white burning medicine I prefer.

Thanks again guys.

 

[delta9nxs]

time for a little root porn!

these first 4 are repeats of 4/25, which was the first plant grown in 100% coco.

first is the bottom, bottom from above, top, and interior.

 

[delta9nxs]

this is the root ball of the plant i whacked last week. it was the first in an air pruned container. it was also pulse watered around the clock as well as sub-irrigated.

#1 is oriented so the top is at the right of the pic. i drilled out the bottom 6" which is the area not showing root spinning.

#2 is the root ball sawn in half showing no "soggy anerobic mass" as some have reported in coco. instead the area is well occupied by fine, white roots.

#3 is the top 4-5" of the medium showing the density of root growth there.

#4 i've torn into that section.

 

[delta9nxs]

#5 is a piece from the top.

#6 is just a shot of what the bottom of the container looked like. no symptoms of anaerobic conditions.

#7 is the bottom center, corresponding to the drilled out portion of the container. very thick, uniform root development.

 

[delta9nxs]

so, i can say that i like the effect of "air pruning". i believe it would be an improvement to drill out the entire sidewall of the container to stop the spinning that's occurring in the top portion.

it is obvious from looking at this plant's roots that pruning the root tips promotes root branching.

i think this has a beneficial effect on overall growth. better o2 and nutrient pick up.

the stalks at the medium and stem structure are larger.

this particular one yielded 12.45 oz's or 353 grams.

the effect of the pulse system cannot be overestimated. the growth in the top of the container is amazing.

d9

 

[oldone]

Hi D9,

Just wanted to let you know that I have my mini PPKs going and so far everything is working just fine.

I have a thread going in the micro forum here, just spreading the PPK love.

Fantastic system man, thanks.
OO

 

[Strangely]

Hi Delta, found your great thread via oldone tiphat and got the wicking idea from Mistress originally tiphat...

Can we draw a few easy wins from these excellent runs then? Rules that apply no matter the size of setup, type of light etc?

Presumably one could be air holes added to the medium container are a good thing for the reasons you've already covered?

Great thread very informative, you and Mistress are made for each other!!

 

[overmyhead]

Great thread! I am moving to straight coco (w blumats) & perlite/verm combo (top watered by hand) sog beds and use troph blumats in coco for moms and you've caught my eye with the jack's stuff - where are you ordering from?

Edit: Nevermind found it JR Peters Labs web site then click on specialty chemicals.

Blessings

 

[delta9nxs]

Hi Delta, found your great thread via oldone tiphat and got the wicking idea from Mistress originally tiphat...

Can we draw a few easy wins from these excellent runs then? Rules that apply no matter the size of setup, type of light etc?

Presumably one could be air holes added to the medium container are a good thing for the reasons you've already covered?

Great thread very informative, you and Mistress are made for each other!!

hi, strangely! thank you! i'm working on a summation now.

i like the air holes with coco. if you use a different medium you may want to use more or less, depending on how fast your medium dries.

i asked my wife if i could bring mistress home, but she said no, that there was room for only one dominatrix in the house.

 

[delta9nxs]

Great thread! I am moving to straight coco (w blumats) & perlite/verm combo (top watered by hand) sog beds and use troph blumats in coco for moms and you've caught my eye with the jack's stuff - where are you ordering from?

Edit: Nevermind found it JR Peters Labs web site then click on specialty chemicals.

Blessings

hey, overmyhead! welcome and thank you! you will really like the jack's. you can order it direct or sometimes you can find it at a commercial nursery supply. i live in an area with hundreds of ma and pa ornamental plant nurseries and have several suppliers nearby.

later

 

[Strangely]

Cheers for the reply!

i asked my wife if i could bring mistress home, but she said no, that there was room for only one dominatrix in the house.

Shame! Probably for the best though eh!

 

[delta9nxs]

this is a pic of a plant i whacked a few weeks ago that produced 14.74 oz's. i posted it already in the defoliation thread but wanted a copy here too.

this plant is the single largest plant i have ever produced but i've got one drying that's even larger.

it's been cut and is in a 5 gal bucket water for the night.

 

[*mistress*]