Cannasseur
Member
SecretGardener,
A picture may be worth a thousand words in this case.
A picture may be worth a thousand words in this case.
-
Happy Birthday ICMag! Been 20 years since Gypsy Nirvana created the forum! We are celebrating with a 4/20 Giveaway and by launching a new Patreon tier called "420club". You can read more here.
-
Important notice: ICMag's T.O.U. has been updated. Please review it here. For your convenience, it is also available in the main forum menu, under 'Quick Links"!
Tutorial Organics for Beginners
- Thread starter BurnOne
- Start date
SecretGardener
Member
Yep I figured, I will get this for you ASAP bro. . . still at work ZzZz
Hello,
Been a longtime lurker & reader of this forum and I have mixed up a batch of LC1 using recipe #1. I have some Great White Shark seedlings about 1 month old in the LC1 mix with no nutrients and I was wondering how long should I wait before it's safe enough to transplant into the final soil mix?
Thanks,
insane420
Been a longtime lurker & reader of this forum and I have mixed up a batch of LC1 using recipe #1. I have some Great White Shark seedlings about 1 month old in the LC1 mix with no nutrients and I was wondering how long should I wait before it's safe enough to transplant into the final soil mix?
Thanks,
insane420
SecretGardener
Member
How do your seedlings look? Are they still healthy looking? Curious if yours look like mine, I'll post pictures soon.
They are healthy, but this is my first time using this mix and they seem to be growing kind of slow in the LC1 mix with no nutes. I have given them some EWC & BSM tea feeding every third watering and used RO water in between. They are around 4 inches tall and on their second node set.
Looks like I found my answer, going to transplant them into their new home. Thanks for the reply though.
insane420
SecretGardener
Member
Here are the pictures of my two seedlings as promised. I haven't grown from seed in a long long time so maybe I'm over nurturing them. They just aren't as green as I expected them to be and the edges of the leaves look faded green...I'll try looking at them under different lights maybe its just the lighting ?
seedlings pictured are 11 days old. First two are of serious seeds feminized AK-47 and second two dutch passion strawberry cough fem.
seedlings pictured are 11 days old. First two are of serious seeds feminized AK-47 and second two dutch passion strawberry cough fem.
Attachments
My Strawberry cough seedling is pretty much exactly the same size as yours and a few days younger. I fed it absolutely nothing and sprouted it in peat / vermiculite / lime with no nutrients. Unfortunately I only ordered 2 strawberry cough seeds and one didn't sprout at all so my hopes are pinned on the one that did.
None of my seedlings are as yellow as yours though, particularly that first one.
From what I understand there's no need for any nutrients for the first couple of weeks as the seed contains all the food it needs to get started.
SecretGardener
Member
I'd like to compare notes as our grows progress if you'd like! Curious to see how different/similar our results turn out to be. . .
The first picture and secondn picture are the same, I think the angle makes it look worse. The second picture is a better representation, but still a faded green. . .
Cannalicious
Member
I don't know if this should be posted in the infirmary, but hopefully it is appropriate here.
I used a combination of Peat Moss and Sunshine #4 because I had some of both left over (2.5 parts perlite - but small grain; it's all I could find).
I used the bone, blood, kelp meal recipe. I added the dolormite lime (powdered) and greensand according to directions.
Instead of Liquid Karma, I used Synergy by Bio-Genesis (also because I already have it). It looks like about the same stuff but double concentration. I used half as much as the Liquid Karma dose (which is the same amount as what Synergy recommends on the bottle for "preplanting").
My biomass was loosely covered in a rubbermaid tub; about half the space used by air. It was stirred everyday for 3 weeks.
This is the EWCs I used:
Here's the problem:
This is a C1 Kandy Kush/Skunk that rooted and was planted on 5/17 (I just took 9 cuttings two days ago) - I would say a week ago I noticed the following leaves. Only two leaves on the plant, and and almost the oldest leaves. The plant is growing great.
This is starting to happen on my younger plants, but more severely. This is a white widow (the bucket says I planted this lady on 1/29, but it was probably 5/29). It doesn't look like it's grown in a week, and the problem is marching up the plant.
Ok, so my ideas as possible culprits are:
Aeration - Not enough perlite or wrong kind.
Acidic burn - from too much peat or dolomite not neutralizing because of a secondary reason
Biomass not aerobic enough to break down everything correctly
EWCs maybe sterilized killing the stuff I want in my biomass. I called aurora innovations to ask if they sterilized their stuff; the secretary didn't know and noone has called be back.
I tried to use the plant solver guide without success, but maybe I should entertain K+ deficiency.
I would appreciate any ideas of the cause and suggestions to cure.
Thanks,
-L
I used a combination of Peat Moss and Sunshine #4 because I had some of both left over (2.5 parts perlite - but small grain; it's all I could find).
I used the bone, blood, kelp meal recipe. I added the dolormite lime (powdered) and greensand according to directions.
Instead of Liquid Karma, I used Synergy by Bio-Genesis (also because I already have it). It looks like about the same stuff but double concentration. I used half as much as the Liquid Karma dose (which is the same amount as what Synergy recommends on the bottle for "preplanting").
My biomass was loosely covered in a rubbermaid tub; about half the space used by air. It was stirred everyday for 3 weeks.
This is the EWCs I used:
Here's the problem:
This is a C1 Kandy Kush/Skunk that rooted and was planted on 5/17 (I just took 9 cuttings two days ago) - I would say a week ago I noticed the following leaves. Only two leaves on the plant, and and almost the oldest leaves. The plant is growing great.
This is starting to happen on my younger plants, but more severely. This is a white widow (the bucket says I planted this lady on 1/29, but it was probably 5/29). It doesn't look like it's grown in a week, and the problem is marching up the plant.
Ok, so my ideas as possible culprits are:
Aeration - Not enough perlite or wrong kind.
Acidic burn - from too much peat or dolomite not neutralizing because of a secondary reason
Biomass not aerobic enough to break down everything correctly
EWCs maybe sterilized killing the stuff I want in my biomass. I called aurora innovations to ask if they sterilized their stuff; the secretary didn't know and noone has called be back.
I tried to use the plant solver guide without success, but maybe I should entertain K+ deficiency.
I would appreciate any ideas of the cause and suggestions to cure.
Thanks,
-L
Jellinator
Member
it looks burnt over fertilized to me?? could be to much or not mixed enough blood and or bone meal? im not so sure about the peat? what it your PH/PPM coming out of your mix?
redneck shogun
Member
Does anyone think those are just over watered and nothing else? It's hard to tell for sure with all the decay.
Cannalicious
Member
They sure look burnt to me!
Alright, the run off of my plants are all over the place. 235, 550, 650, 950, 950, 2200. The correlations don't really match my plants; the 235 plant is one of the hardest hit. One of the 950s shows zero burn. The 2200 is average.
So, anyway, I took a bucket of biomass from my bin, and the ppm is 1900. I did one of the color indicator tests on the runoff, that shows three awesome results: ph6.5, optimal P and K, but the darkest pink ever for nitrogen - way off the charts. I thought EWCs could not burn the plants...????
Now what?
SecretGardener
Member
I am having some trouble with seedlings in LC's soiless mix and posted in the infirmary about it. Someone's response was
WTF does this mean? 'Fermented' soil? Does he mean 'hot' soil that the microbes are metabolically active? Does this statement have any validity? lol.
V
vonforne
If the plants start to yellow or growth is slow. It is time to transplant. Moisten the soil and then remove the plant gently and see what amount of root development you have.
V
V
vonforne
I don't know if this should be posted in the infirmary, but hopefully it is appropriate here.
I used a combination of Peat Moss and Sunshine #4 because I had some of both left over (2.5 parts perlite - but small grain; it's all I could find).
I used the bone, blood, kelp meal recipe. I added the dolormite lime (powdered) and greensand according to directions.
Instead of Liquid Karma, I used Synergy by Bio-Genesis (also because I already have it). It looks like about the same stuff but double concentration. I used half as much as the Liquid Karma dose (which is the same amount as what Synergy recommends on the bottle for "preplanting").
My biomass was loosely covered in a rubbermaid tub; about half the space used by air. It was stirred everyday for 3 weeks.
This is the EWCs I used:
Here's the problem:
This is a C1 Kandy Kush/Skunk that rooted and was planted on 5/17 (I just took 9 cuttings two days ago) - I would say a week ago I noticed the following leaves. Only two leaves on the plant, and and almost the oldest leaves. The plant is growing great.
This is starting to happen on my younger plants, but more severely. This is a white widow (the bucket says I planted this lady on 1/29, but it was probably 5/29). It doesn't look like it's grown in a week, and the problem is marching up the plant.
Ok, so my ideas as possible culprits are:
Aeration - Not enough perlite or wrong kind.
Acidic burn - from too much peat or dolomite not neutralizing because of a secondary reason
Biomass not aerobic enough to break down everything correctly
EWCs maybe sterilized killing the stuff I want in my biomass. I called aurora innovations to ask if they sterilized their stuff; the secretary didn't know and noone has called be back.
I tried to use the plant solver guide without success, but maybe I should entertain K+ deficiency.
I would appreciate any ideas of the cause and suggestions to cure.
Thanks,
-L
You burnt your plants. Next time follow the directions EXACTLY and when you var from that add one one component at a time. That way you will not be guessing until Christmas what the hell you did wrong.
Write down what you do as no to loose count...............and burn your plants.
V
V
vonforne
SecretGardener
Member
I think it is too late for these two. Not sure what happened but check em out lol. I've never experienced so much difficulty get seedlings started...
I think I screwed up with my LC's soiless mix though. I let it sit outside damp for a month. I guess for soiless mix you just mix it up and use it right away, duh.
Pictures:
1-2: are the same plant (strawberry cough)
3: AK 47
4: My last grow at the same age in standard crappy off the shelf potting soil. I must have done something wrong with my LC's soiless mix for sure wtf!
Note I only applied one light EWC+Molasses tea at 2 weeks. They are at 3 weeks now lol. Sad.
Attachments
hello everyone. just had a few basic questions (like everyone does.) i have 8 ppp clones that are just about ready to come out of the bubble cloner i built. i recently bought a bale of sunshine mix #4 as i want to switch from ffof that ive used since day one. also moving from the ff nute line to CNS17 coco/soil grow-bloom-ripe. ive looked and looked on here for experiences w/ sunshine4, but i only find threads where people have cut it w/ so much extra shit. are there any drawbacks to using it by itself? ph problems? defs.? should i add the extra amendments? and since its soil-less (hydroish) my ph shouldnt be 6.8 like the ffof right? more like 6.0-6.5?
