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headband 707

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LOL Rockets right best not to put up any signage lol might keep some away and attact others lol.. Voodoo dolls maybe?? lol.. We were walking in the many, many forests here and we found Voodoo dolls in the trees on the path lol lol made us look further lol.. peace out Headband707
 

headband 707

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The NOTICE is something I create from the website of the public entity responsible for the reserve I use. Printed on official stationery I picked up years ago and laminated. Nailed to the stumps created by the potential growers. Stupid rookies never used the clearings they created. But........the messes they made make it dicey if any inspections/surveys take place.

If growing on public lands, make your own NOTICE using official standard "no tresspassing" type language.

Here in BC they have now put out a hefty fine if you are caught growing on public land... They have laided out a bunch of new rules and this happens to be one of them.. peace out Headband707
 

gaiusmarius

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Nice thread! Looks like a lot of outdoor fun! We tried to plant some small plants but we put them out too early and then there was a heat wave. We're thinking about putting some bushes somewhere but not sure if it's too late. They are about 2 feet tall but we're probable get them out this weekend and see what happens. Good luck with your season!

yeah thanks, same to you, hope you get a couple of nice trees. it's a nice thought that you get free light and air outdoors.


:wave: Yeah gaius,
It was a good read...nice journey I went on getting up to date. Nice info, I have never done outdoor myself so this is pretty cool to follow along and get some info in the process...Good job man. :good:

i always love hearing people find thing of interest in my threads. in the end that what it's all about. i can only encourage you to give the out doors a try. this is my first guerrilla grow and even with my mistakes i still have plants alive lol. it really is a lot of fun, even if it's hard work getting the soil to remote locations.


GM

The NOTICE is something I create from the website of the public entity responsible for the reserve I use. Printed on official stationery I picked up years ago and laminated. Nailed to the stumps created by the potential growers. Stupid rookies never used the clearings they created. But........the messes they made make it dicey if any inspections/surveys take place.

If growing on public lands, make your own NOTICE using official standard "no tresspassing" type language.

sorry i'm still not 100% sure i get what you mean. first i thought you mean post a notice that it's a medical grow. but it seems you mean make no trespassing signs? i haven't seen any signs telling folks to stay out, so they would be more conspicuous. good idea in certain areas i'm sure.

so, some guys made a clearing in the forest and never used it? bummer, hope they were not too near your area. good idea scaring them away with signs, lol. what kind of mess did they make?


That's a good idea but what if you get caught putting these sign's up, is there a impersonation/copyright law you could be done with.?

like it tho ;)

lol it is a good idea, just not really feasible for me. also as you said you might get in big trouble for posting fraudulent notices. what i could do is put some tick warning signs up. they have a few of those posted along the main road. there again it might cause more attention if some local starts wondering why this sign has showed up.


LOL Rockets right best not to put up any signage lol might keep some away and attract others lol.. Voodoo dolls maybe?? lol.. We were walking in the many, many forests here and we found Voodoo dolls in the trees on the path lol lol made us look further lol.. peace out Headband707

voodoo dolls lol, think i've heard it all now. first people were saying piss and shit all around your grow, then spread blood around, then hang bars of sope and hair in the trees and now it's voodoo dolls ROFLMAO! this thread is rocking it.

:joint:
 

MJBadger

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Nosey locals

Nosey locals

Funny you put up any sign & some nosy bas**** will have a look to see . Put up a few of these & no one will go mooching to see what`s what :laughing:



bloody voodoo dolls :moon:


Stay green .
 

gaiusmarius

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Funny you put up any sign & some nosy bas**** will have a look to see . Put up a few of these & no one will go mooching to see what`s what :laughing:



bloody voodoo dolls :moon:


Stay green .

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

that be a good way to be sure my spots are found. a sign like that will ring alarm bells with any that see it and they will call the cops, maybe even the papers lol. not a good idea in my circumstances ...lol.
 

LazLo

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NOTICE wording

Title of responsible entity
Head of entity
(Both headings on official stationery.)

Body of NOTICE

Up to $500 Fine

Please help us fufill our mission by reporting illegal collecting or other destructive activities to: phone number

The entity prohibits the collection of any natural material from the lands of the entity, including but not limited to whole plants, flowers, leaves and other plants.

Staff and citizen volunteers work together to fulfill our mission by removing non-native weeds and brush and reseeding with native plants. Volunteers do this work under authorization and supervision of entity staff.

This is a typical NOTICE one might find on metal or wooden signage in public preserves. My NOTICE has the appearance of a volunteer posting and not likely to draw attention from authority but sure detered those potential growers. To me a potential grower=potential ripper.

Hope this helps others to use similar wording to produce their own NOTICE.
 

gaiusmarius

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now i get the whole picture, very cool way to get rid of growers who get too close to your spots. nothing worse then knowing they are nearby the whole season. but i would imagine that growers wouldn't be the ones ripping another grower. we know what goes into it and how much it hurts to lose plants to rippers. but still i wouldn't want to risk it either, you never know who you are dealing with. even if they aren't thieves, some idiots might end up getting your spots found if they are beginners.

:wave:
 

THC123

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hahaha finally found your update a few pages back woops

Very nice, and that forest soil is doing them real good

Is that pure forest soil? or did you make a small hole?
 

gaiusmarius

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soil details

soil details

hahaha finally found your update a few pages back woops

Very nice, and that forest soil is doing them real good

Is that pure forest soil? or did you make a small hole?

this is the second planted FD in area 2, she has 20lt of special grow soil mix in her hole, with a layer of local soil covering the grow mix.
she's my newest favorite :)

quick recap of last pic update and details:

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this one is the first one i planted in area 2, she was also given her own grow soil, about 15 lt. again i added a layer of local soil over the top to help keep moisture in, this plant was added after a change of plan so i had to improvise the cage. she has not had it easy, some thing has nibbled on the leaves and i have had to repair and extend the cage. there is no nice wood around hence those ugly posts was all i could find without going too far. i now also have 2 more plants in area 2, but i didn't take pics on the evening i planted them 2 days ago.

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before i extended the fence...
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ok now we get to area 1, at this point there are only 2 plants there and both are growing in pure forest soil. the only other soil they have is the coffee cup of soil they were growing in when i brought them there. over time i top dressed the forest soil with some good microbes and chalk and bio npk powder. there use to be 3 in area 1 but the plant growing in imported soil mix was killed recently by some thing, probably a deer. problem is this area s not idea when it come to sun shine levels. either that or the soil is causeing the plants to grow very lanky and tall.

anyway plant 1 from area 1, this is my second favorite, i remembered to top her in time.
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this is plant 2 from area 1, the second one growing in pure forest soil, with a few amendments as mentioned previously used to top dress.

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the other 4 plants are in spot 3 and i'll get new pics tonight.

i think the forest soil girls are the way they are more due to my choosing less then ideal positions, sun wise rather then because of the pure forest soil, but it could well be both. the forest soil is rather compact and clay like and i only added chalk recently. anyway time will tell...

:joint: :bongsmi: :wave:
 

plough

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I'm killing it, GM

I'm killing it, GM

nice update man. I think they look decent for as late as you were getting them in there.

I just got over to look in on my plants, I had them in a 30 gallon smart pot but they were getting waaay overcrowded so I expanded the container a little bit.
Do you think it looks too conspicuous?
I did all that work hauling the soil, making the container, etc. then I rewarded myself with a skinny joint, got my second wind and that's when I thought to put the birch wood around it a little. I also did some pruning while I was there and I took a few of the cuts and stuck them in the soil I added today, maybe one or two will take. Anyway I forgot my scissors so I just plucked the leaves a little like they pluck tea leaves. Worked. I was pretty proud of myself for improvising like that, lol. I started freaking out though cos I thought I heard a chopper hovering in the area... but I kept my cool, finished working on the cuttings, cleaned up all the stuff that I brought (I really wanted to get this done cos I had a lot of stuff laying around with my fingerprints on it and they've got my prints) ... anyway I pretty much got everthing that I wanted to except I wanted to hit them with a kelp foliar when I pruned them and I forgot the kelp, also I didn't quite have enought soil I guess I'll have to lug some more in. I really hope one or two of those cuttings take though. You can see them (sort of) at the bottom of the 1st picture.
Anyway what's your opinion do they look too conspicuous? I'm mostly worried about choppers spotting them, I don't think anybody else has been in the area for a couple years.
 

gaiusmarius

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hey plough,

welcome back buddy, your plants are looking real good. i saw the clones, hope that works lol, i guess there is no reason why it shouldn't. i would have put a glass of water or plastic bottle of water for them to root into, but i suppose the soil should work too.

your plants are well camo'ed, specially compared to mine lol. i see you are using the thicker areas of local plant growth to help stop the deer and stacking old branches around a bit? seems to be working so far. good job m8....:wave:
 

MJBadger

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GM , collect the horse manure it will all help . From what i remember you have decidous trees as well as pines etc ? I`m sure i saw some beech in 1 of your pics . You need to collect leaf fall & any green vegetation you can get , just collect it onto an old blanket & sling it over the shoulder , no pine needles . Somewhere there is sure to be a bit of a hollow that you can heap it all into then let nature do it`s best .
Little tip . Do you have over there Feather edge fencing boards ?. There about 125mm wide with 1 edge thicker than the other 5-6mm tapering across the board to around 3mm. Cut 2 pieces 250-300mm long & use these to pick up your leaf/composting material . I have seen gardeners neighbours etc trying to pick up material with gloves etc & finding it slow work , with the boards it works a treat .
Now you know your locale you`ll be able to suss out other spots with more sun . Usually Bracken grows in sunlight as it diminishes under poor light from trees .

Stay green .
 

plough

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hey plough,

welcome back buddy, your plants are looking real good. i saw the clones, hope that works lol, i guess there is no reason why it shouldn't. i would have put a glass of water or plastic bottle of water for them to root into, but i suppose the soil should work too.

your plants are well camo'ed, specially compared to mine lol. i see you are using the thicker areas of local plant growth to help stop the deer and stacking old branches around a bit? seems to be working so far. good job m8....:wave:
yeah so far no problems with any deer really. I think it's pretty inaccesible for them, but I did get something digging up my soil a little. luckily didn't actually dig anything up. most of those branches are there natural tho, only bad thing about that is I'm worried about termites.
 
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Found your updates a few pages back.....:bump:
You really put alot of good work into this outdoor-adventure of yours. I love it!:):artist:

Exciting about the coco.

I also like your cages. Good thinking!

All the best wishes for you my friend.:ying:
 

gaiusmarius

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Greetz again...

Greetz again...

aw man! great looking area to grow. good luck

thanks man, it is rather nice to have it practically on my doorstep so to speak.

GM , collect the horse manure it will all help . From what i remember you have decidous trees as well as pines etc ? I`m sure i saw some beech in 1 of your pics . You need to collect leaf fall & any green vegetation you can get , just collect it onto an old blanket & sling it over the shoulder , no pine needles . Somewhere there is sure to be a bit of a hollow that you can heap it all into then let nature do it`s best .
Little tip . Do you have over there Feather edge fencing boards ?. There about 125mm wide with 1 edge thicker than the other 5-6mm tapering across the board to around 3mm. Cut 2 pieces 250-300mm long & use these to pick up your leaf/composting material . I have seen gardeners neighbours etc trying to pick up material with gloves etc & finding it slow work , with the boards it works a treat .
Now you know your locale you`ll be able to suss out other spots with more sun . Usually Bracken grows in sunlight as it diminishes under poor light from trees .

Stay green .

yes there are areas with mostly non evergreens which have layer of compost under quite a thick layer of leaves. so that should be easy to collect, but i feel a bit self conscious about shoveling up the horse manure as it's right on the path. i also have noticed that the real nice thick layer of leaves are near spot 1 while the best sun coverage is at area 2. moving it means climbing down from one area and then climbing up to another area, but i suppose it would be worth it. i need to get myself a bigger back pack, don't really want to be seen running around the woods with bin bags of leaf and leaf compost lol. but i can make collection points and then move it around at night or on rainy days after harvest when no one will be around much. will save me at least some lugging of new earth next time right?

the bracken in area 2 is in an area of about 10 by 10 meters and the stuff is easy 1.5 meters tall and very healthy and vibrant looking. i'm tempted to put another plant or so out just to place it in the middle of the bracken and see how it goes.


yeah so far no problems with any deer really. I think it's pretty inaccesible for them, but I did get something digging up my soil a little. luckily didn't actually dig anything up. most of those branches are there natural tho, only bad thing about that is I'm worried about termites.

yeah the thought of some bugs coming of my stems i use for fencing crossed my mind too. it is interesting how in area 2 my new favorite plant didn't get harassed at all by deer even though she was totally unprotected except by the surrounding bushes and thorny vines etc. while in area 1, that 1 planting spot is always attacked again and again.

Found your updates a few pages back.....:bump:
You really put alot of good work into this outdoor-adventure of yours. I love it!:):artist:

Exciting about the coco.

I also like your cages. Good thinking!

All the best wishes for you my friend.:ying:

i'm learning so much by actually doing this and it's a great experience to boot, at least so far lol. the cages were forced on me by the local deer population, even though there is lots of other natural food available at this time of year, for some reason they seem to love young cannabis. a few local growers are telling me i don't need the big enclosures i made, but just look what happened to the plant in area 1 that outgrew it's cage. it was executed, down to the stem.

the coco was mixed with all the soil amendments i have gathered and then mixed with the forest soil about 40% coco to 60% forest soil. if it works i'll be happy to have a good way to use my used coco after a few runs inside. but it might not work well, we will see next time i check on area 2.

thanks for dropping in guys, still didn't get to spot 3, hopefully i'll make it tomorrow night. although i must admit my expectations for area 3 are not very high after i see how they are in area 1. as i say i'm learning a lot :)

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rocket high

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hi gm
Deer protection is uptmost of importance after my first experiance with them ..maybe i went a bit far with the pen lol..but your diy deer protection look's like it work's and that's all that count's really, i also need to make some compost as well because that bagged compost is heavy to stumble around in a bog with..lol

Did you get your water bladder gm ?...
 
i'm learning so much by actually doing this and it's a great experience to boot, at least so far lol. the cages were forced on me by the local deer population, even though there is lots of other natural food available at this time of year, for some reason they seem to love young cannabis. a few local growers are telling me i don't need the big enclosures i made, but just look what happened to the plant in area 1 that outgrew it's cage. it was executed, down to the stem.

the coco was mixed with all the soil amendments i have gathered and then mixed with the forest soil about 40% coco to 60% forest soil. if it works i'll be happy to have a good way to use my used coco after a few runs inside. but it might not work well, we will see next time i check on area 2.

thanks for dropping in guys, still didn't get to spot 3, hopefully i'll make it tomorrow night. although i must admit my expectations for area 3 are not very high after i see how they are in area 1. as i say i'm learning a lot :)

:wave:
Natural outdoor grows are very educational.
You'll learn so much from doing this and have fun at the same time
I have done so many guerilla grows but have to admit that they are a lot of work

Good luck with your grow and have fun
 

gaiusmarius

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hi gm
Deer protection is uptmost of importance after my first experiance with them ..maybe i went a bit far with the pen lol..but your diy deer protection look's like it work's and that's all that count's really, i also need to make some compost as well because that bagged compost is heavy to stumble around in a bog with..lol

Did you get your water bladder gm ?...

yeah got the water bag made of rubber that the swiss army uses. but since about 3 weeks the weather has been so perfect that i never needed to water, in the last 1 week we have had hot sunny days and rain showers thunder and lightning at night nearly every night. so the bag is still empty and dry, but ready as soon as things stay dry for longer then a few days or a week. i can use the bag as a shower too if i get sweaty lol, you can hang it up and press a button on the valve for showering. yeah i'm hoping that it is enough to run a few strands around the plants like i did in area 2 plant 2. it's easier then finding 4 straight stems to use for each plants enclosure. i'm also hoping that game scare stuff i got will help. mind you if the area 2 ends up being as ideal as i think, i will probably make a permanent fenced area inside the bracken patch for future use.

Natural outdoor grows are very educational.
You'll learn so much from doing this and have fun at the same time
I have done so many guerilla grows but have to admit that they are a lot of work

Good luck with your grow and have fun

indeed it has been a real education just getting these few plants out there. yes it's also a lot of work, specially if you have to carry soil in like most of us do. this is the reason i will be trying to make my own compost, so all i have to bring out there is perlit or coco and amendments.

i wonder will it be ready in time for next season if i start the compost of the leaves and layer under the leaves soon?

:bongsmi: :smoke:
 

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