The Super "Super Auto" Test Grow Thread

[Scrogerman]

Hey Buddy,
A bit better luck for you is great news buddy! About time!
As for your tecnique i know its good. Look how healthy everything is. His Pot/soil growing tec has been bang on. i think he always PH's to the correct range, you usually aroung the 6.3 mark & you feed Canna Terra ferts etc. I just cant see its anything Dargo has done wrong here. Do you think you may have caused any unessasary stress to these herms Darg? from what ive seen mate you done things by the book & im looking at the Lines(sorry stitch), i'll report as soon as i see anything untoward. As of now my Niv Sky's, AnnaP's & Num 1's are all OK and blooming well(& the Jet47's), & i have caused stress to these, more than anything you could have done, mine are & have been root bound & messed about in several ways & no balls, so i find it hard to believe your issues are from stress. Anyway Buddy! Good Luck. Next time ill be starting off with much bigger pots, should of known!
Peace......Scrogs!

My best AF-so far- is the BigBuddha Automatic. Its packed on the Trichs more than anything else & the smell is insane/beautifull. Next its the Automaria's & third place is the Jet47 followed closely by all the others MI5, Number1 etc. My only issue is learning how fast they need to be re-potted. they get rootbound within a couple of week & start yellowing at the bottom if their left too long. I can see why now they need big/long pots for their root space. I gotta say the BB Automatic is a beauti & ill defo be buying more of those, covered in trichs allready. & more SuperAF's too. Id love to have a crack at scrogging the Super AF's in DWC, indoor i think i could really rock a huge yield out of these things, does anyone know what sort of yield i could expect from these 'Super-AF's' indoor using DWC+decent lighting-HPS etc?.

 

[skotty]

on a serious note i cant see what all the fuss is about a batch of seeds that have turned hermie at the end of the day shit happens from time time so take it on the chin and move on. i imagine its happened to us all in the past or maybe for some of you lot in the future and all that will happen is that you wont buy the seeds again, once bitten twice shy and all that

dargo is not a shit grower and stitch is not a shit seed producer its just one of them things so lets all light up and get back to growing some nice plants

*puff*
*pass*

peace

 

[Scrogerman]

lol, id be fussed if my plants hermied, these lines are supposed to be Hermie free. Of course it happens, shit always does. Its a good idea to disscuss these things though imo especially if your running the same strain. Is it grower error, causing stress(which i doubt) or is there Hermie traits in these Lines, which i think there must be. I followed my buddy here from the start & on other grows, he does his thing well & will continue to do so. We got no choice but to take it on the chin & move on when something like this happens, But its always a very good idea to discuss the possible influences (if any) that may have caused this to happen.!

If anything my money would be on 'Light Cycle', i doubt stitch bred these outside or in the greenhouse, so in a much more controlled enviroment indoor. MI5 aka 'My Indoor Number 5' give a clue to this. Is that a possible factor stitch- Ie a constant change in light hours as happens naturally? Outdoor natural light is losing minutes everyday through the summer months. This is bound to affect some strains & cause some sort of light stress.

You never had any problems with the MI5 outside in the Greenhouse did you mate?

Good Luck PeeP's

 

[skotty]

fuking hell scrogger you going all sherlock holmes on us now ive got visions of you in a deerstalker hat and smoking pipe trying to piece together what went wrong with this grow lmfao

its not the end of the world when it happens and nobody is gonna get banged up for having grown hermie or producing hermie seeds

keep it real folks

peace

 

[Scrogerman]

LOL, thats me to a tee.! You got it all wrong mate you wouldnt be happy if your BBBC Hermied & nor would i, it aint the end of the world no, never said that. You see buddy, im growing Niv Sky Myself, right now, & it matters to me man. One of the many points of ICMag is to discuss these things, or am i mistaken on that point?
I aint trying to argue or nothing buddy! Not at all, it just im growing it out myself & when a plant herm's its a worry dude! I am paying even more attention to these now, keeping a real close eye, i dont want them impregnating my other offerings man. No offence mate but we always keep it real bro! These points matter mate. If something is prone to Hermie its good to know & know why too. Thats all buddy!
Peace......Scroger!

 

[Scrogerman]

My 'Niv Sky' is under lights Indoor atm(In Full Bloom), it would be good to know if it's gonna Herm if i stick it outside with the changing light cycle-as was intended!. But I might just keep her about now then. Be good to hear stitch's thoughts on the outdoor light cycle & weather he thinks it could be a factor in this turning herm!! See where im going mate!

 

[skotty]

lmfao scrogger put the spliff down mate your getting para my pedigree chum

look at all the other grows on all the other forums where people are growing out these strains with success i mean theirs even a couple of peeps on here growing them out with sucsess

in the words of the late great beatles mate "let it be ,let it be"

peace

 

[Scrogerman]

Skotty, what are you on about man. This Niv Sky has Herm'd dude, i am growing it out myself, i think that the changing light cycle of outdoor light may be a factor in the plant Herming. I have asked stitch to comment on my thoughts as the Niv Sky i have is or was intended to go outside, but if its prone to Herm under those conditions i may just keep it indoor to finish up. Theres no need to come with the insults man. Just because you dont understand what im getting at or what im saying doesnt mean it isnt right! What im saying could well be a factor and prolly is why these NS's have herm'd, If i were you id wait to hear what stitch says before trying to ridicule what i am saying, its a valid point man ok! Get real & educate.

 

[TexasMonster]

.................

Get real & educate.

 

[rocket high]

getting hot in here i see ...lol

 

[Scrogerman]

Go look up an Almanac, the light and dark hours. Then go read about light stressing MJ & what happens if a plant gets light stressed. Changing light cycles can stress a plant out buddy! Outdoor light day and night hours are changing by minutes everyday. I am asking stitch if this is or could be a factor in Dargo's NS's Herm'in, i think it could well be that, because his growing tec is sound & i cant see what else he's done wrong. That leaves Light cycle as a possible cause of the Herm. This is a very valid point Skotty & could be the cause(Possibly).

 

[Scrogerman]

Yeah there is no need to get silly about this. im just trying to work out what happened as im growing it out myself & things like this are a worry. Dont tell me you wouldnt be worried if you were growing out Niv'Sky man! of course you would! there is no need to get arsey about it.

 

[skotty]

calm down sweetheart their has been no insults

lets look at the basics of growing cannabis

light
water
feed

if you under feed you got problems and if you over feed you got problems

if you under water a plant you got problems if you over water a plant you got problems

if you mess around with a plants light cycle your gonna have problems

bit of a no brainer there mate dont you think and i can pm you a link to a thread where a guy is growing niv sky outdoors in the uk with good results if you think it will set your mind at ease about growing outdoors

and if ya that bothered about it going ru paul on ya just keep it indoors problem solved

i think there was a reason that dargo put the word test in the title of the thread maybe it was to test if the seeds were any good or not and i think he as achieved a satisfactory answer for his test grow

peace

 

[TexasMonster]

calm down sweetheart

peace

 

[rocket high]

ive stressed my auto's to high heaven with re-potting/bad weather and light change ...i wonder if they will hermy any time soon!!!

 

[TexasMonster]

ive stressed my auto's to high heaven with re-potting/bad weather and light change ...i wonder if they will hermy any time soon!!!

I dunno but I aint worried about mine. I didnt go with femmed seeds and I put them in their 5 gallon buckets before they turned a week old. It is awful hot here right now and I have my eye on how they are taking that.

Good arguement though up above.

 

[rocket high]

yes tex this is a intriguing "discussion" ...mine's are fem and no balls yet ..better not speak too soon lol

 

[skotty]

its not an argument i value scroggers opinions highly as he knows his shit and is a good grower i just think he is being para about nothing, if i had a £1 for the amount of times people have posted about femized autos going hermie i would be minted right about now.

it happens folks and can happen with any female plant if you mess around to much with certain factors that they need to grow or it could just be in the genetics

peace

 

[TexasMonster]

its not an argument i value scroggers opinions highly as he knows his shit and is a good grower i just think he is being para about nothing, if i had a £1 for the amount of times people have posted about femized autos going hermie i would be minted right about now.

it happens folks and can happen with any female plant if you mess around to much with certain factors that they need to grow

peace

The arguement comment was just a poke at both of yall, really. I cant give comment on femmed seeds because I have not had any. I am a newbie. I have read a lot of comments about hermies and have seen some downright good arguments on whether or femmed seeds cause that. Seems that some strains are more prone to it than others and that you just have to do what yall are doing, which is to hash it out.

I like to kid, instigate and poke fun, dont mind me really.

 

[Scrogerman]

I too have stressed these many different strains of AF's i have on the go, the only thing i aint done is mess with the light, they have been on 24/0 for over a month & my Niv Sky aint Herm'd. Im pretty sure stitch as a breeder would of done his work indoor with a very controlled enviroment & light cycle. Id like to know if its enviroment or grower error or if the Hermie traits in the line, stitch has already stated he thinks its grower error of some sort, but id just like to know what he thinks of my point of outdoor light cycle drift, because ive watched Darg & cant think of anything he's done to cause it. You can PM me that link to mate, id be interested.