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joe fresh

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so heres 3 pics of 2 different leaves from the same plant.

i will not give any info other than the PH is ok.


so you think you know what it is...guess away:tiphat:
 

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joe fresh

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im not sure, i was thinking P-K-Ca-Mg....but if thats the case i would be not feeding enough??...but im feeding @ 650 ppm every second watering, ph is fine, and i flushed just over a week ago to be sure.....so im not sure what it is....



and shes on week4-5 of 12/12...on a 8-10 week strain....
 

ibjamming

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I'd like to see thw whole plant before saying...let it go...just finish like you planned. Are you feeding by a schedule? 650 is really low...up it. I'd think you should be over 1000 at this stage of flowering. Tap or distilled? Fuck it...just raise the nutes...it looks like late stage flushing...because it's starving.

This is just MY opinion...

Good luck!
 

reckon

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calcium build up, causing what looks like a potassium/magnesium def,...OR you're using RO water, and it IS a calcium def

what do I win?
 

blahman

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looks like its def in everything, lol

ya 650 ppm is really really low for week 4-5. I'm in week 4-5 myself and I just had to up to 1200 ppm from 1000 because I was getting mild deficiencies.
 

RetroGrow

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I am guessing root aphids.
They are epidemic now, and cause all kinds of "deficiencies".
You will need a loop to see them, as they are really small.
Pull one plant from it's pot and examine roots carefully.
Otherwise, double check your PH. If using a pen, is it calibrated?
Try using PH drops to confirm your PH.
Bad PH or root aphids are the 2 things which will cause that much "deficiency".
 
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joe fresh

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looks like its def in everything, lol

ya 650 ppm is really really low for week 4-5. I'm in week 4-5 myself and I just had to up to 1200 ppm from 1000 because I was getting mild deficiencies.


how often do you feed? i feed every 2nd watering, and water every 2-3 days, so i fert @ 650 ppm every 4-6 days...
 

Albertine

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They do look just like the leaves my root aphid infested plants are dropping. What fun. It makes sense to show potassium or for that manner any and all deficiencies if you have something gnawing at the plant's main avenue of uptake. I was also being really careful in ppm numbers. I am showing an overall paling in the Sativa dominants that looks like classic N def, with progression to the dead blotches. Stopped the progression in a couple, for the moment, by potting up, and trying some foliar feeds while treating the rest.
 

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well i got off the phone with my uncle, he uses the same fert along with promix....i water @ 650 ppm every 2nd watering, he told me that he feeds at 1000ppm every 2nd watering, and that he said i was not feeding enough....so basically he said yo give 1000ppm of ferts and 100ppm of epsom salts, for a total of 1100 ppm....this seem kind of high to be watering every second watering, no?
 

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heres a few more pics
 

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ibjamming

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well i got off the phone with my uncle, he uses the same fert along with promix....i water @ 650 ppm every 2nd watering, he told me that he feeds at 1000ppm every 2nd watering, and that he said i was not feeding enough....so basically he said yo give 1000ppm of ferts and 100ppm of epsom salts, for a total of 1100 ppm....this seem kind of high to be watering every second watering, no?

It's about the same thing I said...listen to him.
 

joe fresh

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well i decided to make a little experiment...today i watered the whole crop as normal, but raised the ppm of 2 plants to 850...if they get worse, i know i am over feeding, if they get better then i know i am underfeeding .....
 

blahman

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well i decided to make a little experiment...today i watered the whole crop as normal, but raised the ppm of 2 plants to 850...if they get worse, i know i am over feeding, if they get better then i know i am underfeeding .....

You won't be overfeeding, i'm over 1000ppm and I feed every second watering. Just like you do.
 

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