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Climbinghigh's 2010- late start with early strains

Hello fellow IC'ers. My outdoor thread is long overdue, but I got off to a late start this year since I was planning on moving to denver in June, and not planning on growing outside this year. But that fell through and my plans changed. With that in mind I think that I pulled it together pretty well to be able to get a decent harvest(for me) this year.

Due to the time crunch this year and the short season that I deal with every year around here, I'm using mostly early canadian strains from UDG. I had four plants that were a couple months old and starting to flower inside under 16 hours of light. So I put those outside in the middle of June. they're sort of in between vegging and flowering now- we'll see how it works. there's a C99 x GG, a Guerrilla Grape, a Blubonic x GG, and a Manitoba Medicine f2 from some seeds that I made last year. I love the Man Med, its got nice frosty dank smelling buds already. I used fossilized seabird and mexican bat guano in old holes I've used for the past 4 years.

I also decided to try a rubbermaid bin grow in a bog like Greens did on UDG. I have 5 36 gal rubbermaid bins camoed and filled with soil out in a bog- feels like walking on a waterbed after a big rain. In each bin I planted 8 pre-sprouted Manitoba Medicine f2's. Some didn't break through the soil and some got eaten by slugs already but I've got 24 seedlings that look like they will do something. Of course I have to pull the males later. I planted more seeds in the bare spots in the bins too. Used chemical ferts for the first time in these bins- seems to be working so far.

And just the other day I decided that the 10 Bogbubble f2's that I had inside just weren't reaching their full potential, so I planted them outside in some holes from last year with chemical ferts- cheap and easy. I'm usually an all-organic kinda guy but had no time or money to do it right this year. I'm going to have to pull males from these later too.

Thats the rundown for 2010. I would've done it really big this year if I had planned for it, but I think my efforts will still be rewarded. I'll post some pics when I have more time and when theres more to look at-lol heres a pic from last year that i think is the Man Med.


Peace and happy growing.
 

blynx

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Looking good! I'll be following this one. I love those early Canadian genetics.
 
more pics!

more pics!

I thought I'd add some of pics of the prep work behind this bog grow. I had to haul a LOT of peat moss out there. All I can say is thank god for my pack frame- it makes hauling stuff so much easier, you can see in a pic below how I strapped the bins to it- with furniture straps and a packframe you can haul just about anything. I was just going to use peat moss and chunky perlite but a 40 lb bag of perlite and a 3.8 cuft and 2 2.2 cuft bales of peat wasn't enough to fill even four bins. so I hauled another six big bags (I think they were 2.8 cuft) of Metro-mix potting soil which I found at my local grocery store- expensive but its really good stuff, already has dolomitic lime in it. The bottoms of the bins are cut out and the bins are dug into the sphagnum moss about six inches, so they should wick up water just fine. I used lots of lime in these to counteract the acidity of the water. I havent tested the ph of the water seeping up but the presence of pitcher plants and ladyslipper orchids tells me it is very low, probably around 4.

The thing I hate about these bins is the perlite. I felt like it was neccessary to have but its so blatantly obvious that I'm worried about aerial detection. I'm going to go out there this weekend and spread some peatmoss on top as a mulch to cover up that bright white perlite. Also going out today to get pics of the little Bogbubbles that I planted out by the old creekside garden.


Safe and happy growing everyone!:blowbubbles:
 

.clunk

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Nice pictures, that looks like a great bog to grow in! Seeing the frame pack and all those bales of peat-moss made my back hurt..I hauled all my gear in early April and had forgotten how much sweat goes into lugging things around in the bush.

I wouldn't worry too much about aerial views - maybe just mulch with peat moss or leaves, once the plants get big enough they'll cover the rubbermaid container and perlite just fine. I've flown over open boggy areas in a helicopter where I KNEW there were large plantations (50 plants+ in a concentrated area) and even though I knew exactly where to look and we flew right over, I couldn't see a thing.
 
Thanks clunk, that makes me feel better about the perlite. I've been wanting to put off going out there until they start showing sex, because its a bit of a drive- and its supposed to be low maintenance. But I would like to do a little more mossy oak'n on those bins and check on the slugs, use copper wire if they're still munchin the plants.

shrpshooter- thanks for stopping by, always keepin it green.

peace.
 
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argoagro

I'm also doing some late swamp stuff, just brought out & filled up a 45 gallon bin & a 12" x 4' concrete form in the swamp. I used 2 3.8 bales of peat, 3 bags of topsoil manure/hummus, and a crapload of perlite as well :) I also tossed in some plant-tone, watering crystals, and bone meal. No lime because I'm stupid, and I am curios how it will compare with my other swamp stuff which does have lime. I will be filling the bin soon with some Mandala speed-queens, and the swamp tube I'm not sure probably 3 nice looking bagseed plants.

Good luck, thanks for the pack info.
 
Goodluck with the swamp grow dude! I can't use bonemeal because of bears, but mostly wolves and coyotes that will dig it up. When I was hauling stuff out there I found fresh bear shit on the log that I walk on to get to the bog. If your plants with no lime start to yellow its because N gets locked out at low pH- I hope they stay green for you.:canabis:
I'm curious to see how those speed queens turn out for ya. the one I grew outside in 08 had a funky smell and no mold.

cheers.
 
agro i would go turn that soil agin if possible and add sum lime as the swamp around my place has a ph between 4and 5 .... gd luck shrpshooter
 
bog grow update

bog grow update

Good advice shrpshooter-

agroagro- you should really get some lime in there before you plant those, its a small step that is probably vital to success in the swamp.

Anyways... I've got some updates from my little bog.

I couldn't sleep well at night thinking about those slugs munching my little manitoba medicine seedlings and the bright white perlite in the bins also worried me so i decided to take a trip out to the bog with some copper wire to ward off slugs and to do a little of what I call
'mossy oak'- in other words, super stealth camouflage.

The plants were doing much better than I anticipated, which was very exciting. Many were beginning to cover the bins, making the perlite less of an issue.

I counted about 40 plants including little seedlings from the seeds I planted last time I was out here- about five days ago i think.

4-5 confirmed females so far and only 1 male:) I wonder if the males tend to show later in this strain, I dont have enough experience with it to know. I have to go out in a week to pull any more males that show up.

As you can see in the pictures I did some serious mossy oak on those bins- I think I will sleep better now:)

I've never used copper wire for slugs before,- are my rings wide enough? Anyone with experience please help me out.

Thanks for checking out my squishy garden- Peace.
 

trichosaurus

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Beautiful garden bro. Your plants look happy. :)
The copper rings look good. As long as the slugs cannot get over the rings to the base of the plant, it should be good. Usually ill bury one end of the wire and run the other end up the base of the stem about an inch or so. Just in case a heavy rain comes along and washes some dirt or debris over the wire.

Great idea with the moss. It does look more natural and helps with water retention too. :ying:
 

rocket high

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hi Climbinghigh am doing a outdoor grow in scotland and it's my first real outdoor grow, it's also my first with auto's so ive done a lot of learning this summer, ive built a pen (fort) lol no creature is going to get in at them ....on my watch
i like the look of your bog growing i might try that next year along with a stream grow, i have plannned in my head lol

i dont know if your copper wire's right or not because mine look similar(no slug's yet :))

here's a pic (a month old photo's) they look good now ;)



and them now
 
Your plants look great rocket high, thanks for stopping by. Goodluck with that scottish bog grow next year. I'd love to see pictures to compare bogs.

Well folks, I thought I'd see for myself how late is too late of a start at 46 N. I just sprouted 40 seeds that I got from UDG this past winter in hopes of using them this season. Since I just found out in June that I'd be staying near my old plots this summer my season started very late. But I figure why not put these seeds to work instead of taking up room in my fridge (;

I put them in a 50 cell flat in good potting soil this morning. I'm going to transplant them into old holes at the creekside garden probably mix in some dolo lime and a little chemical fert.
I'll plant 3-4 plants per hole, pull males later, probably save some pollen and make a little seed. I'd love to sex them inside before, but then they'll be bigger and heavier, and they need to get out asap. Plus I just started 40 white skunk X cheese seeds for an indoor grow and I dont need anymore than that inside.

so the list of late late start plants is :
20 GG x Blubonic
10 Mighty Mite
5 GG x C99
5 Brickland


Hopefully they'll be in the ground by or around the twentieth.:)
 
heading out to the bog today to pull more males- hopefully not many. Its been raining today so... the rule about bogs is to always wear a hat. In case you fall through someone will find your hat and know where you are. lol.

pics of manitoba medicine and bogbubble will be up later.

peace.
 
hey I made it back from the bog, though the mosquitoes almost ate me.

heres some pics of the bogbubbles from my other spot, what I called the creekside garden 2 last year. A few confirmed females and a few unconfirmed males probably. one plant is very small because someithnig dug it up the night it was planted and I found it 2 days later and planted it again- it lives!


heres the 4 plants I planted mid-june. The manitoba medicine might be done in a couple weeks:jump:

C99 x GG


Guerilla Grape


Manitoba Medicine


thats probably enough pics for one post but Ive got more-
peace.
 
thanks liquidlight, good luck with those horse flies- they're awful.

heres some pics of the manitoba medicine before pulling males

looking lush-

and after pulling 8 males and bending and supercropping the females-

the plants seem to be really happy. Makes me think about what the results would be if I did a cali style grow with 3-4 month old cones put out early into big ass "pots" like 4 feet across made from 4 stakes, chicken wire or stronger wire, and lined with landscape fabric- filled with coco... I think this could grow monsters. Anyone tried something that big on a bog- I wonder if the weight of that much soil would sink it?
 

.clunk

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a friend grows in a swamp using 15 gallon grow bags, so not even that big of planters. Usually he plants two small clones per bag in case one doesn't make it, but even the ones with two healthy plants have alot of root space and still end up being 4oz plants or so. He plants his mothers out at the same spot (when they are around 3 feet tall) and they are now around 7 feet tall and around 5 feet wide, with another 2-3 weeks of veg to go!
I'd say go for it, it would be impressive!

Oh, and all those plants look great!
 

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