Soybean grows and Other Late plantings

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Last year was my first year at growing in soy beans. Lots of people grow in corn, but ive found that soy beans are a little easier grow. The corn gets tall and shades the plants, but the soy beans dont block the light and you dont have to pull up many soy plants.

Last year, I started seeds in the first week of July, and planted my 3 week old seedlings in between rows of soy beans. Soybeans only grow to about 3-4' and around here, a pot plant set out on Aug 1, finishes oct 1 at about 3' tall, with 3-4 ozs of weed.

This year instead of seeds, im taking cuttings the first week of july. They should be ready by aug 1. Seeds work just fine but with rooted cuttings, all plants should be of similar height and nature. They really fit in well with the soybeans.

I also do late planting in areas that wont conceal a larger plant. Planted aug 1, plants dont get big and are easy to hide.

.... anybody else use late season planting methods.... lets hear about them...

 

[LiveFreeOrDie]

When are soy beans typically harvest? Do you have any trouble with soy bean harvesting v. harvesting your plants?

 

[badbeans]

Last year was my first year at growing in soy beans. Lots of people grow in corn, but ive found that soy beans are a little easier grow. The corn gets tall and shades the plants, but the soy beans dont block the light and you dont have to pull up many soy plants.

Last year, I started seeds in the first week of July, and planted my 3 week old seedlings in between rows of soy beans. Soybeans only grow to about 3-4' and around here, a pot plant set out on Aug 1, finishes oct 1 at about 3' tall, with 3-4 ozs of weed.

This year instead of seeds, im taking cuttings the first week of july. They should be ready by aug 1. Seeds work just fine but with rooted cuttings, all plants should be of similar height and nature. They really fit in well with the soybeans.

I also do late planting in areas that wont conceal a larger plant. Planted aug 1, plants dont get big and are easy to hide.

.... anybody else use late season planting methods.... lets hear about them...

Growing in bean fields sounds like a good idea. I have been thinking about trying this also. I have a nice field that I was expecting to be corn this year, but its full of soybeans. I took a bunch of cuttings last night that I think would be perfect for this bean field. When does Cinderella 99 finish? I would think around end Sept to mid Oct? I am at 39 deg. N

Can you give us any more details on how you did it? Regarding soil, did you just plant straight into the field or did you bring in your own soil at transplant?

Feeding, how often (if ever) did you feed? If the field is fertile enough to grow nice soybean then it should feed our favorite plants pretty well shouldn't it?

Watering, how often did you need to water? Did you find that the beans were taking water from your cannabis plants?

Pests, I would think deer would be the biggest threat. Did you fence your plants, or did the deer leave them alone.

bb

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Hey fellows

I was beginning to think i was the only person doing this. Its really some of the easiest and most productive growing ive done.

Live free or die, Harvest conflict isnt as big an issue as it is with corn. Around here, soybeans harvest a little later than most of the corn. The field im planting in gets harvested at the end of Oct, early nov. My harvest is the first week of Oct and may be a little earlier depending on strain.

Bad beans, those cuttings will work great. C99 finishes early Oct and should be fine especially since theyre clones. Im at 36.7N. I took cuttings last week. I will plant the 6" rooted clones out into the field in the last part of july and they will finish out at about 36" with 3-4oz ozs. As long as you can get them in the ground by 8/1, all will grow well

Soil: soybean soil hits the spot for cannabis and if the beans are growing well and are green then no nutes or soil ammendment is really necessary. I do mix in a handfull of perlite to each planting hole just to aid in early root development but its not really necessary. You may laugh, but i have a bulb planter/auger that goes on my cordless drill and i can plant 30 seedlings in the field in less than an hour.

Water: I didnt have to water last year at all and i dont think i will this year but its possible that you could.. Although, it doesnt require as much water to saturate smaller plants. The soybeans keep the soil shaded at the base which helps with moisture.

Pests: None. I have many deer, but i havent seen the first track and havent seen any evidence that theyre frequenting the field. I didnt have any pest problems or anything really. Easy growing.

Other thoughts: I plant betweeen the rows and usually pull up the soy bean plant on either side of it but the soy beans arent bulky plants and dont block the plants much but they provide good stealth. I plant 2-3 plants per row and then skip a couple of rows and move down so as not to create a pattern.

Really, some of the easiest growing ive done. Last year i used autoflowering seeds and they worked out fine but are expensive. This year im going with cuts.

 

[3rdEye]

I'm interested in doing some field growing. With cuttings between 6-12 inches ( 15- 26cm) There is plenty of farmland within 30-45 minutes of where i'm at and some fallow fields with tall weeds too. Even with that some of them will probably get to 5-8 ft (150-245cm) tall. Good luck with your grow. Should be fun.

 

[maxkravitz]

Just beware of Roundup ready soybeans. Most are in my area. Just plant after the last herbicide spraying.

 

[bloyd]

you shouldn't have to worry about round-up anymore especially late july. Thanks for another great idea ds toker!

 

[3rdEye]

Good info max. Keep forgetting some people still use chems on their food.

 

[badbeans]

You may laugh, but i have a bulb planter/auger that goes on my cordless drill and i can plant 30 seedlings in the field in less than an hour.

I saw one of those at the hardware store and the lightbulb went off, but I passed on it thinking that it wouldn't drill a big enough hole for the plants. Maybe I'll reconsider....
I was planning on digging holes aprox 2 gallons and mixing in water crystals into the soil, and burying a small gatorade jug like you have posted about before.

Water: I didnt have to water last year at all and i dont think i will this year but its possible that you could.. Although, it doesnt require as much water to saturate smaller plants. The soybeans keep the soil shaded at the base which helps with moisture.
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I was planning on mixing water crystals, this should help.

Pests: None. I have many deer, but i havent seen the first track and havent seen any evidence that theyre frequenting the field. I didnt have any pest problems or anything really. Easy growing.

I'm hoping that they have enough other foods to choose from that they will leave my MJ alone. Foolish?

Other thoughts: I plant betweeen the rows and usually pull up the soy bean plant on either side of it but the soy beans arent bulky plants and dont block the plants much but they provide good stealth. I plant 2-3 plants per row and then skip a couple of rows and move down so as not to create a pattern.

Good strategy, I'll probably do the same. I'll get a post going when I get them planted, maybe even a few pictures if the security situation allows...

Really, some of the easiest growing ive done..

My grow last year (8 plants) was hard work, I planted mid-June and was stolen by theives at about 2 wks flowering. Easy and more secure growing is what I'm looking for this year.

Thanks for the tips from all you growers.

bb

 

[CarpeLibertatem]

yeah i remember reading an inspirational article some years back about guys who did this with the farmers consent and it paid off in a big way.....

I always thought soybeans would be more suited to this than corn. Soybeans stay green till harvest don't they? Man with some fast lil indicas you could kill it........

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Yeah CarpeLib, there are possiblities with fat little indicas. Critical mass is a good variety for this type of growing.

badbeans, theft of crop is less likely with this type of growing. This is a 60-75 day grow in total which leave less time to be discovered. Plus, the 2 sbean fields im planting in are probably 25 acre fields and im sort of way out in the middle. Honestly they're hard to find out there given that other weeds are sticking up, and someone that was looking would have to walk the whole field over and look carefully to find them. Its a stealthy little grow really.
I think the little auger will only work where the ground has already been plowed and worked, but it works great there..

Soybeans do stay green and they really hide the weed well, especially in those spots in the field where weeds are already growing and sticking up between the rows. In every field ive been in there are other weeds growing in spots so its easy to tell that the roundup has worn off. check the ground and if young weeds are sprouting then your weed will grow. Those other weeds also serve to help conceal the plants.



After last years effort, i had concluded that a decent mid summer harvest is possible using soybean fields. It was my intent,(I got too busy) to plant autoflowerers in between the rows in early june and harvest a good little crop in the last of july. I grew Brendas skunkXNl, and it was finished and harvested on july 28th with an average of 3ozs per plant. Thirty or so plants would yeild a decent take for that early.

Although in the spring you do have to plan on roundup applications. BUT...., if you spend much time looking at a corn or soybean fields, you'll notice there are spots that have weeds growing in them even though the field has been sprayed. The reason for this is that when the applicator comes close to the end of the row, goes through a low spot or has to turn, the spray is turned off and spots are missed. You can plant in those spots and they are easily identified when looking the field over. Anywhere you see young weeds sprouting then weed will grow too.

The guy that showed me this type of growing doesnt really wait for the roundup to go away. He takes a bag of stagreen or Miracle grow and digs out a 1gallon size whole, fills it with his potting soil and plants his seedling in it. In the 2 weeks it takes for the roots to grow beyond his gallon of potting soil the roundup in the surrounding soil has diminished. He plants 60 plants in total each summer / 20 plants per field and says that one, 3cu ft bag plants 20 plants and that cost him about $1per plant. He's been doing it for several years and his average harvest is just over 5lbs of smoke from the 60 plants.

 

[bloyd]

DS what kind of light schedule are you running indoors before you put them out. Do you turn them down to 12/12 before going out or just run 24 and let nature trigger as they go out?

 

[stratmandu]

Great idea. Just started some seeds to try this out in a bean field I know.

EDIT to add its too bad we have to skulk around in bean fields like guerrillas to grow what should be our right to grow freely in our own gardens.

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

Bloyd, at this time of year, if i use seeds, i just sprout them indoors and after 4 or 5 days out the door they go.

Cuttings: i root all cuttings on 24hrs until roots have developed and theyre transplanted into soil. After being put in soil, i'll ease the cutting into the sun for a week or so until theyre ready to take to the planting site and keep them on natural daylength. Under normal conditions, I dont think outdoor plants should ever be subjected to more than 1 hour more than the natural daylength if the intent is to transplant the outdoors.. My daylength on may 1 is about 14.5 so i veg my seedlings for 30 days before planting under 15.5 hrs of light.

 

[MountainBudz]

Just what I was looking for! Thank you D.S. Toker! Very detailed and critical information here that I couldn't seem to find anywhere else. You still doing the soybean gardening?

 

[DJbigbud]

Ive got a few autos in pots I was thinking about putting in a soybean field. Any of you ever run autos in soybeans? Im thinking about topping after 3rd set of leaves to make the shape less obvious.

 

[ManicOrganic]

Wish the farmers would wait as long to harvest beans around here. I would love to be able to grow in the beans or corn for that matter but thwy seems to take most of them down the first week or so of oct round here so i opt to just grow at thw edge of the fields.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Just what I was looking for! Thank you D.S. Toker! Very detailed and critical information here that I couldn't seem to find anywhere else. You still doing the soybean gardening?

D.s toker is another KY native btw bro. hes not been active in a long time but i always like to read his posts. i know he said that blue hashplant and kc33 are really good for guerilla growers in our area which i will be growing next year.

 

[MountainBudz]

Yeah I had seen where DS was from Ky. I really love his posts and he seemed like he was very good at what he done. Wish he was still around. I hope the best from him since he kinda just disappeared.