Can't we all just get along!!!

[mean mr.mustard]

 

[Danks2005]

Correct me if I'm wrong but most drugs, arent illegal because they are unsafe. They are illegal due to racial and political reasons. "Cocaine crazed nigger" sound familar.

 

[bentom187]

i think this is a catch 22 because we cant verywell make laws based on individual cases.but you can just generally look after eachother so where not victoms of nut jobs.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I'll be the first to say you're wrong. You are right too, but the wrong is there.

If someone can tell me that heroin isn't unsafe I will immediately refer you to three dead friends... but I don't know if they can tell you much.

 

[Danks2005]

i think this is a catch 22 because we cant verywell make laws based on individual cases.but you can just generally look after eachother so where not victoms of nut jobs.

Now your talking. But first and foremost look out for yourself. I told you I carry for protection of myself and my family. But if I was ever in a situation where I see someone being victomized by a violent crimiminal, you can bet I will step in. I may be harsh, but I'm not a dick, and do want whats best for humanity.

 

[Japanfreakier]

I'll be the first to say you're wrong. You are right too, but the wrong is there.

If someone can tell me that heroin isn't unsafe I will immediately refer you to three dead friends... but I don't know if they can tell you much.

does it matter how safe it is? It's not like it's going to be FDA approved. There's nothing safe about cigs and millions of people die from them.

I don'T want my government to baby safe the world for me, I only want them to protect me from other people, not myself. The drug war puts everybody..........and especially pets...in danger.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Well I am the same person that thinks guns are the reason we have people shot on a daily basis at an alarming rate... I should just see my way out of this thread.

If the best shot at the future is a pile of coke and lots of guns, count me out. I think that's crazy.

 

[Japanfreakier]

Have more faith in people

 

[mean mr.mustard]

does it matter how safe it is? It's not like it's going to be FDA approved. There's nothing safe about cigs and millions of people die from them.

I don'T want my government to baby safe the world for me, I only want them to protect me from other people, not myself. The drug war puts everybody..........and especially pets...in danger.

Be thankful you don't live here! The FDA is regulating our cigarettes now!

 

[bentom187]

my personal view is heroin is a horrable thing,id wish there was a solution ,my family has been effected by it in the same way your friends have.i guess we have similar experiences and some people just dont know.danm i guess it goes deeper into human nature than just the law,so i guess like i said at the begging of the thread is if people would just have some morals and understanding of the end result alot less people would use and no laws that oppress would exist

 

[Danks2005]

I never said it wasn't unsafe, of course it can be very dangerous. I'm just saying, i don't believe that is where the original legislation came from.

 

[Danks2005]

Well I am the same person that thinks guns are the reason we have people shot on a daily basis at an alarming rate... I should just see my way out of this thread.

If the best shot at the future is a pile of coke and lots of guns, count me out. I think that's crazy.

Why is it that you think there would be more piles of coke than there is now? Does the law stop you from smoking pot? Well it doesn't stop people from doing coke either. People do what they want to do, just human nature. Hard drugs would be safer if regulated, and as it stands now our american money is steady flowing to drug cartels, and it ain't gonna stop. So Gov't should tax, and get a large piece of the pie. A pie that is always gonna be there no matter what. Drugs have been around since the begining of civilization, and will never be eradicated.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

How can you think there wouldn't be more coke when it's legal?

Do you honestly believe that there was as much grass growing and being sold in California twenty years ago as there is now?

Don't get me started on giving the same government that brought us nothing but grief in regards to drug policy more money... like I said... I'll find my way out of this thread.

 

[SuperSizeMe]

Wow, you cats took this bitch on some kind of tangent...


lol

 

[Japanfreakier]

How can you think there wouldn't be more coke when it's legal?

lol, and why would you assume that there would be an increase?

Let's take a look at Brazil, from what I hear it's super easy to get so following your logic they should be using more of it than Americans but they aren't.

I also think a lot of people do shit just because it's illegal.

The lifetime use of alcohol in the 107 major cities of the country was 68.7%, which was close to numbers observed for Chile at 70.8% and the USA at 81.0%. Yet, tobacco lifetime use was 41.1% of the total, which is lower than the prevalence observed in the USA (70.5%). The data on the lifetime use of marijuana in Brazil (6.9%) approximated the findings for Colombia (5.4%), however, being much lower than that observed in the USA (34.2%) and the United Kingdom (25.0%). The prevalence of lifetime use of cocaine was 2.3%, well below the levels for the USA with 11.2% of the total population. The abuse of inhalants was 5.8% of the total, greater than that found in Colombia (1.4%) and about four times less than that in the United Kingdom with 20.0%. Among the medicaments, stimulants had a 1.5% prevalence of lifetime use, and that of benzodiazepines had similar percentages in Brazil (3.3%) and in the USA (5.8%). In this survey, only four individuals reported lifetime use of heroin, which was equivalent to about 0.04% of the sample and much lower than that in the USA with 1.2% and in Colombia reaching 1.5%. These findings will allow the implementation of public policies fitted to the situation with psychotropic drugs in Brazil.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

When you get behind the wheel of a car you have a personal choice to drive how you want, if you drive too fast or erratically or for too long (fatigue)....you could endanger your life and possibly others either on the road or in your car when you crash possibly fatally......and if you crash you will probably get medical attention if you get hurt.... and you might also be penalized by the law......yes you and possibly others will suffer because you did not operate the vehicle in a responsible manner....

....When/if you decide to take any drug that should also be a personal choice.....and if you over indulge and drive your mind and body too fast or erratically and take the drug for too long (if it's addictive) ....you can also endanger/hurt your life and possibly (emotionally) those that care about you too......and you may crash......but will you get proper support and medical attention to help you recover?.......or will you end up in a cell as a criminal?......even though you have not robbed anyone, stolen from anyone, maimed/killed or committed any real crime against another person other than perhaps some emotional trauma to those that care about you.....and wish for you to recover....?


....I'm all for putting people behind the wrong sort of bars if they have created a crime with a real victim that seeks justice for their loss.....

...But when someone hurts themselves through a bad personal choice by ingesting something that they misuse and perhaps become addicted to then they don't need to be jailed, they need help.....

Back to the subject of the thread....in case we have forgot.....legalizing cannabis would be the start of a huge mind-swing in how the worlds populace perceives drugs through government legislation and will be a positive step to getting people to understand that how you use (or abuse) drugs like cars should be a personal choice.......and that those that act irresponsibly with them and hurt others because of them by creating crimes with real victims should get penalized....

 

[CarlyJasmine]

thanks for sharing..

Drug Rehab

 

[Japanfreakier]

when will they stop and realize if they just legalized it( and i mean TRULLY legalized it) alot of this violence would be GONE!!!

This is the first post. The violence is from criminals, organized crime, if pot is legalized they will sell a different drug. I doubt legalizing pot would have much impact on violence.

 

[Danks2005]

I also believe in the Gateway theory. Not because MJ makes the user feel the need to step up to harder drugs, but because there are a lot of scumbags selling pot, that push their more dangerous products on impressionable kids. With that said, I believe if all drugs were legal, and sold at their own dispenseries, your average pot smoker would be less likely to come into contact with harder drugs, thus lowering hard drug use.

I also agree that higher rates of violence are a direct result of the black market. If you legalize pot only, that still leaves a huge black market, in which the violence will continue.

 

[Japanfreakier]

I believe in the gateway theory but not because of pot, but because when you try pot and realize everything they say is a complete lie you get curious about what else they've lied about.