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Caution when using "Hot Shot No-Pest Strips."

Grat3fulh3ad

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lmao at thinking "in closets" means "in an indoor garden"...
just lmfao...


also lmao at people who are attacking "use with caution" as though someone said "stay altogether entirely clear of ever coming close to using at all"...

also lmao at anyone who calls any poison "safe.period."
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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Clastogenic and mitodepressive effects of the insecticide dichlorvos on root meristems
Abstract
Plant bioassays are an important and integral part of the test battery used in detecting genotoxic/carcinogenic contamination in the environment. Highly sensitive biomonitoring of plant models have been developed, which enables the detection of hazards arising from pesticides, insecticides, industrial contamination, heavy metals and radiation. Root tips of Vicia faba ssp. minor were treated with 1-60 mM of the organophosphorus insecticide dichlorvos (DDVP) for 2 h, followed by a 20-h recovery period. Maleic acid hydrazide (MH) was used as a positive control for the mitotic index, micronucleus and chromosomal aberration assays performed on the Vicia model system. All treatments with DDVP significantly decreased the mitotic activity and increased the frequency of chromosomal aberrations at the metaphase. The frequency of micronuclei was significantly increased at DDVP concentrations starting from 10 mM. The results demonstrate clastogenic and mitodepressive effects of DDVP on Vicia faba cells.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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DIRECTIONS FOR USE Recommended to control Duponchelia fovealis on greenhouse ornamentals (including Roses, Jasmine, Anthurium and Gerbera). Since testing has not been done on all varieties, test on a small area and on all varieties before performing a fumigation of the main crop. Repeat fumigation three times, three days apart. Dichlorvos may damage some plants.
 

KarmasWheele

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well you have proved you can copy and paste......
how many people grow in a closet??? I freaking bet you do.......
no one said anything about not using with caution.....
no one said anything about poison being safe.....
You better check yourself man,stop trying to twist peoples words to fit your personal agenda.......Stop copy and pasting propaganda.....And stop being over protective,over paranoid,and over zealous.........Just get back to your closet and your plants.....Your a seed breeder not a scientist.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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lmao...
If you actually think hot shot meant 'growroom' when they said closet....

closet |ˈkläzit|
noun
1 a small room or cupboard used for storing things.
• archaic a small, private room used for prayer or study.
2 archaic a toilet.

Growroom
A growroom, or grow room, is a room of any size where plants are grown under controlled conditions.

"I am quite content to go down to posterity as a scissors and paste man for that seems to me a harsh but not unjust description"
— James Joyce (Lettres, tome 1)
 

hoosierdaddy

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Dichlorvos is commonly used as a pesticide where foodstuffs are stored.
Safer than most pesticides, but isn't used outdoors much because water neutralizes it.
 
Ok, please a little info

Ok, please a little info

OK, I have read every single word of this post. If someone could please give me some advise. I will never use "Hot shot stripes" again. But, I did hang two up about 1 1/2 foot above grow for two days eight hours each day no vent during dark period seven days before harvest. Has anyone done something similar to this with no ill effects...this is all I need to know ...thank you all...!!
 
I would still like to hear from others that have used this product in a similar way as discribed above....But I just realized it says to use in closets where there are clothes...Assuming one would wear those clothes they would be in fact direct contact with the fumes from this product so i'm assuming (hopefully) that any fume effect on the plant would be very minimal and not seriously toxic ...? would I be correct in this ..? Thank you .
 

hogg

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Been using the no pest strip for more than 2 years in my home garden thats located next to the room I sleep in no problems for me except the complete absence of mites. I learned about them from my neighbor who uses them in her strawberry garden and has the most deliscous berries around! It has been a god send for me and I will continue to use.
 
Thank you

Thank you

Thank you, anyone else that has used them for two days or more with a distance of 1 1/2 foot above plants up until a week before harvest...? Thanx again.
 

Grass Lands

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Something else did that to your cuts, Grass Lands. The dichlorvos didn't do it.

have to disagree bro....I've used my chamber for cuts time and time again and have used it since the fubar, minus the new strip and the cuts turned out fine. The issue was the use of a new trap...I've always used an old trap (at least two months old) with no issues, but the new trap in such a small area was to much for the cuts to take...I should mention this chamber has no ventilation and this is most likely the reason for reaching the toxic level it did.

Now that's not to say I don't still use them...they work wonders for most critters...the only bugs they have issues controlling is the dreaded whitefly...thrips, mites, gnats, and anything else gets the shit kicked out of them...but the whiteflies just keep on motoring..
 

hoosierdaddy

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Look, I have used these things for years and in close proximity to plants on a regular basis. Both in flower and in veg. I have never seen any sort of issue whatsoever.
Now, sure if you box a plant up with no ventilation it will suffer and have problems, and I don't know if the dichlorvos would be any more of a problem, but I can assure you that a plant will not survive long without some Co2 uptake.
 
My Opinion

My Opinion

OK, good people here is my opinon... I have been growing for thirty years. And I don't care to debate this issue. I have been on many boards that are now extinct. Because I don't have many posts here you can choose to believe what I say or take it as you will I don't care to influence or debate this is purely my opinon. If you use the "Hot shot" no pest strips you are poisoning yourself and others period. I have done my research ..I have never had "the borg" before this year and I am not to old to learn ..I had a major attack for the first time in thirty years and I used the "Hot shot' this is poison and no one should use it in my opinion at any time...I care about the meds my friends and family ingest and this is poison period...end of story. Don't use them at any time period. This is my opinion and I know you have your own. But,....I will not post any argument or debate this issue from here on out. If you use these things you are hurting people...while it's temping to save or protect your investment there are better alternatives ...I usually don't get involved in issues but this to me is very important...Please do not use this poison it is a very bad chemical structure and is one that you don't understand...You can dump on me all damm day i am an older person with older friends who are very informed, chemists, pharmalogical, people ect,ect,...This is NOT Just like any other form of industrial pollutant or toxic "sidestream" contaminate you may come in contact with in your daily life. I don't give a fantasic fart what you try to compair it to. This is a warning please don't hurt yourself and others .Please don't take this lightly as I have been reading some posts about this. This is not harmless in my opinon. You will read no more about this from me. All the very best...!
 

hoosierdaddy

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Well, you are wrong.
Perhaps you can point us to the research you claim to have done, instead of making a drive-by post and giving yourself an out without providing any backup whatsoever.

No, you are wrong.
 

reddy1

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OK, good people here is my opinon... I have been growing for thirty years. And I don't care to debate this issue. I have been on many boards that are now extinct. Because I don't have many posts here you can choose to believe what I say or take it as you will I don't care to influence or debate this is purely my opinon. If you use the "Hot shot" no pest strips you are poisoning yourself and others period. I have done my research ..I have never had "the borg" before this year and I am not to old to learn ..I had a major attack for the first time in thirty years and I used the "Hot shot' this is poison and no one should use it in my opinion at any time...I care about the meds my friends and family ingest and this is poison period...end of story. Don't use them at any time period. This is my opinion and I know you have your own. But,....I will not post any argument or debate this issue from here on out. If you use these things you are hurting people...while it's temping to save or protect your investment there are better alternatives ...I usually don't get involved in issues but this to me is very important...Please do not use this poison it is a very bad chemical structure and is one that you don't understand...You can dump on me all damm day i am an older person with older friends who are very informed, chemists, pharmalogical, people ect,ect,...This is NOT Just like any other form of industrial pollutant or toxic "sidestream" contaminate you may come in contact with in your daily life. I don't give a fantasic fart what you try to compair it to. This is a warning please don't hurt yourself and others .Please don't take this lightly as I have been reading some posts about this. This is not harmless in my opinon. You will read no more about this from me. All the very best...!

you just used a NPS a few days ago and now after reading the whole thread you've come to the grand conclusion that they are bad for you?

i used NPS for a while and they did work, kinda. mites would return or the strip would stop working and i always had them hanging around without any permanent solution despite cleanings and quarantines.

i stopped using them when it killed a mostly healthy tray of clones that had a few mites on them. i sealed them up with a dome and a No Pest Strip and they were dead less than 12 hours later. i knew there had to be a better way and so i bought some floramite on ebay for like 15 dollars and that was over 1 year ago and i haven't had any mites since. good investment.

i had a cat who passed away this year. he had a tumor in his lungs, breathing became difficult, then he stopped eating and eventually passed away. very sad. he was my best friend and i blame myself for using no pest strips. that may not be the cause but i won't ever know for sure.


i wouldn't use them, there are better ways to exterminate pests.
 
M

michaeljordan

funny how everyone is so certain one way or another. Kind of like everything else in life.
 
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michaeljordan

sorry about your cat man, but I wouldn't blame yourself. Tumors in cats are actually very common.

you just used a NPS a few days ago and now after reading the whole thread you've come to the grand conclusion that they are bad for you?

i used NPS for a while and they did work, kinda. mites would return or the strip would stop working and i always had them hanging around without any permanent solution despite cleanings and quarantines.

i stopped using them when it killed a mostly healthy tray of clones that had a few mites on them. i sealed them up with a dome and a No Pest Strip and they were dead less than 12 hours later. i knew there had to be a better way and so i bought some floramite on ebay for like 15 dollars and that was over 1 year ago and i haven't had any mites since. good investment.

i had a cat who passed away this year. he had a tumor in his lungs, breathing became difficult, then he stopped eating and eventually passed away. very sad. he was my best friend and i blame myself for using no pest strips. that may not be the cause but i won't ever know for sure.


i wouldn't use them, there are better ways to exterminate pests.
 

supermanlives

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update, i think i have breed a resistant strain of mites. i had 4 strips in a 4.5x4.5 x7 tent and their still thriving. time to clean up and bomb em
 
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