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Can't we all just get along!!!

gary20757

Member
I was just pondering this.....with all the violence of late in cali with the two shooting in LA and the drug deals good bad....I just hope people realize that about 95% of the people that smoke marijuana are peaceful loving people and the violence spurs from this 5% of people who are either just dicks to begin with or are trying to fuck up the system on purpose for everyone else!!! when will they stop and realize if they just legalized it( and i mean TRULLY legalized it) alot of this violence would be GONE!!!

"The system will only change when the people rise up against it"
ALL revolts and demonstations started with ONE person's ideas so if you think... what can one person do?? Ill tell up look into our history...our nation was created on the backs of GREAT men and women!!! STAND up and let your voices be heard!!!!!
 
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cacamal

Member
I agree. Violence breads violence. I do not think it is the marijuana itself but the money. Up here in Norcal people are always getting jacked or shot over smoke and it is a shame
 

MoeBudz^420

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It's all about the money, just like everything else. As long as this unwarranted prohibition continues, so will violence over the MONEY cannabis can generate due to inflated value. It's the same deal as alcohol prohibition was back in the day, the ppl wanted it and gov't prohibited it - then along came organized crime to take it over, and let the killing begin...

True that, proper legalization and regulation would eliminate the majority of the black market, and put the money into the country instead of into o-crime's hands. What I figure would be best is the same treatment as alcohol basically. I know some want to see it totally free and unregulated but this will never happen under our system.

(retail sales in licensed stores - coffeeshops or a cannabis version of liquor store, personal production is allowed in small amounts, but unlicensed sales are illegal, just like brewing beer or wine. Sharing your home brew with adult friends is also legal - same should go for cannabis)

The revenue potential would be at least as much as alcohol can generate, & responsible use would be tolerated. I imagine irresponsible use wouldn't, same as booze. One can drink all they want, but if they don't drive or act like an asshole, no problemo.

Cannabis, as a far safer substance, definitely deserves the same treatment at the very least. I think if we could convince gov't to try it for 1 year, the revenue generated and the reduction in crime would make em keep it...


Just my 2 cents... :rasta:


Peace
 
C

Cookie monster

when will they stop and realize if they just legalized it( and i mean TRULLY legalized it) alot of this violence would be GONE!!!

With out violence there is no fear, if there's no fear then you Americans wont need para-millitary style police,swat,feds.
Government wont be able to sieze assets,houses and the privatised jails,lawyers and the whole system will no longer profit.

God forbid if our governments did not have peacful otherwise law abiding growers to persecute then they would probably have to focus on other issues such as white coller crime and they sure as hell aint gonna bust themselves.

There is no profit in peace:2cents:
 

Japanfreakier

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I just hope people realize that about 95% of the people that smoke marijuana are peaceful loving people and the violence spurs from this 5% of people who are either just dicks to begin with or are trying to fuck up the system on purpose for everyone else!!!

I don't buy for a second that stoners are any more or less peaceful than non-smokers, if anything I think we are more violent as a group. Everyday I see growers on these boards calling little kids faggots, talking about how this person or that person deserve to die and overall more violence and hate talk then I see in other places. Have you seen a grower show off his gun collection recently?
 
C

Cookie monster

I don't buy for a second that stoners are any more or less peaceful than non-smokers, if anything I think we are more violent as a group. Everyday I see growers on these boards calling little kids faggots, talking about how this person or that person deserve to die and overall more violence and hate talk then I see in other places.

Yes growers (illegal) are more peaceful than regular smokers, as much as I've wanted to beat the crap out of a few people I know, in particular my sisters Ex ( his time will come :) ) I cant.

I like many others here must moderate my actions to avoid the cops ending up at my front door for good reason.
I dont break the law, or get in fights unless somebody threthens me,my dogs or loved ones

It's the internet! lots of idiots saying shit that they would never dream of carrying out if they were'nt behind the keyboard and safe from the reprocussions of what they imagine they would do.
 

Japanfreakier

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I like many others here must moderate my actions to avoid the cops ending up at my front door for good reason.
I dont break the law, or get in fights unless somebody threthens me,my dogs or loved ones

Everyday in America growers who can't are arrested. PLenty of non smokers have good reasons to avoid problems as well, all kinds of criminals in America.
 

bentom187

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i know most of us are tlaking about violence associated with weed,i herd a quote of the buddah or a buddist preist and the occurence of a violent act is because of lack of reasoning. when reasoning stops anger rises.but back to the subject, i also think that weeds leaglization would curb alot of this,if there are no drug deals or trafficing then how could they possabley go wrong. and no ones perfect so to say that youve never been violent toward somone else would be less than truthful but we can learn to be better.
 

bentom187

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well yes, but also if its not drugs its somthing else,just be reasonable and listen and less violence will occur everyday.
 

Japanfreakier

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Well I'm for total legalization for all drugs, don't believe in prohibition. If marijuana becomes legal though I don't think that we will find stoners are any more peace loving than the average Joe. They just say Jah more.
 
C

Cookie monster

Well I'm for total legalization for all drugs, don't believe in prohibition.

Legalisation of all drugs?...you must be either mental or be fortunate enough to never have seen how hard drugs can rip a family apart and destroy lives.

Cannabis is not a drug and as long as people put it in the drug catagory it will never become legal.
 

mean mr.mustard

I Pass Satellites
Veteran
You aren't a family man are you?

I find that supporting legalizing hard drugs is akin to supporting violence inside families and among peers.
 

cacamal

Member
You aren't a family man are you?

I find that supporting legalizing hard drugs is akin to supporting violence inside families and among peers.

The hard drugs and violence are already in place. We need to try to reverse this. Cannot keep going on like we are why not try legalizing them...losers who cant get high without violence will still fight,cheat,steal as some do for booze but at least this way the government will be forced to use some of their already made profits in hard drugs for social programs
 

SpasticGramps

Don't Drone Me, Bro!
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Veteran
I'm for all drugs too. I think the crap prescribed by the doctors is just as bad as the illegal stuff. IMO, prohibiting what one can put into their own body is wrong and the act of prohibition itself encourages drug use as a means of rebellion.

Educate the people with the truth and send the junkies to rehab not jail. Criminalizing drug use has created a lot of the violence we see today. If you want to smoke crack and kill yourself that's your prerogative.

I don't have any kids either.
 

Japanfreakier

Active member
Veteran
You aren't a family man are you?

I find that supporting legalizing hard drugs is akin to supporting violence inside families and among peers.

See guy when you say "I find....." you're supposed to be talking from experience, for example, "I find people who use "I find" aren't the smartest tools in the shed," but since you haven't lived in a world where hard drugs have been legalized you're just talking out of your ass.

Now if you want to talk about violence in the family you should be a bit more concerned about alcohol.

"Another study shows that the percentage of batterers who are under the influence of alcohol when they assault their partners ranges from 48 percent to 87 percent, with most research indicating a 60 to 70 percent rate of alcohol abuse and a 13 to 20 percent rate of drug abuse."

I also think it's a bit rude of you to suggest that because my views are different than you that I don't have children. Here's an idea, stop talking out of your ass, makes you look stupid.
 
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