bgreenwirth17
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I grow 8ball kush indoor vertical hempy buckets and the trimm that i use in my joints refuses to burn! I have even let it dry to beyond dry....? any ideas, I flushed for a week and a half...
Why dnt my joints burn?
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Iron_Lion
sometimes if my buds were too dense they burn like shit in a joint unless they're ground real well before rolling.
Everyone bitches about "airy" buds but I find they smoke way better than really dense nugs, even in a pipe.
Everyone bitches about "airy" buds but I find they smoke way better than really dense nugs, even in a pipe.
maybe you had stuff in the medium that didn't flush out due to being organic or not water soluble. i had this experience once at the HT cannabis cup, some guys from dna were handing out a bunch of pre rolled pure joints, man those things sucked, never had a joint before that you can only pull on when you are holding fire to the end, this thing was just not burning, totally black ash, don't ask me what the fuck happened.
using organics requires one to know what one is doing, if N is still being created by rotting matter in the medium in the last weeks of flowering, that organic cannabis will not be so good no matter how much you flush it.
maybe cook with it, or make hash or bho, i would imagine the concentrates would burn well enough to at least smoke.
good luck
using organics requires one to know what one is doing, if N is still being created by rotting matter in the medium in the last weeks of flowering, that organic cannabis will not be so good no matter how much you flush it.
maybe cook with it, or make hash or bho, i would imagine the concentrates would burn well enough to at least smoke.
good luck
I ran across some weed as a kid ( 20 + years ago now) and every time we tried to light it with a lighter the end of the joint got rock hard and would not pull but by using a cigerette instead of a lighter it worked just fine...i never did figure that out they said it was straight weed just ALOT of resin on it making it hard to smoke...ive never ran into this again but of course around oklahoma(here) 98% of the time we get swag...GOD I CANT WAIT TO MOVE TO CALI NEXT MONTH
bgreenwirth17
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Ya im thinking that its just too green when i cut it, im gonna let it flush all the color out of the fan leaves before i harvest next time... I think its too much chemicals left over. I wish i had time to put into organics! But, 65 hour work weeks dnt leave much time for my true passion. I have been trying to not go to my hash man bcuz he takes a heafty percentage of the final product. the nugs smoke fine its just the trim that sucks in joints, and i roll in a machine because of crooked fingers...
IwannatokeNbone
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fanfuckingtastic points.... i cant stand unflushed crap organic, harsh tasteing weed that was grown on animal shit does not impress me soley by its dookie merits alone
exactly!
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staff11
Must of been the worst organic grower ever. Anyone that thinks they can flush organic out of soil is a little dense anyways. Doesn't happen.
bad or no cure, quick dry, unflushed, too resinous, tightly rolled.
some plants are great to make hash, some are better in joints, try and shake some trichomes off and smoke the weed after making hash with what you kiefed.
some plants are great to make hash, some are better in joints, try and shake some trichomes off and smoke the weed after making hash with what you kiefed.
dankydoodle
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It's funny that some of you think unflushed "organics" are the culprit. Not so. I never flush my plants grown in soil, organically. I do however discontinue ferts after week 7. ALL my buds and trim burn to a nice clean white ash. Now on the other hand, hydro growing with hydro nutes, or chemicals, is a very different story. Flushing for a full two weeks with plain water is essential if you expect it to burn properly, if at all. DWC is much easier to flush. Soilless mediums, for example, perlite/vermiculite require a longer flushing period, say starting at week 6 for 9 week strain. Organic soil mixes are by far the best for producing smooth smoking, tasty buds. I hate smoking a joint and having a big hunk of carbon crud on the end, that refuses to burn. Yuck! IMO, that shit is not worth smoking.
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el dub
Un-flushed K acts as a fire retardant much like asbestos.
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SuperHemp
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Using organic phosphate sources your plant tissue should not build excessive levels of flame retardant phosphates in it, as your soil food web will not build up excessive levels of plant-available phosphates. From memory i think 150ppm is about the maximum level of plant available phosphorus you can have in your organic soil before the phosphate-converting organisms start to die off, hence it is self-limiting at a level that is acceptable for flowering cannabis without building up excessive amounts of phosphates in plant tissue.
Be careful with bottled organic nutes containing plant available phosphor, you can overdose just as with chemical nutes
SuperHemp
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Good tip, you can buy fire extinguishers with potassium salts as the extinguishing medium (i own one!). I didn't know the type of potassium present in plant tissue acts as a fire retardant, but it's perfectly possible.
Heres a trick that used to be popular but seems largely forgotten: when you're done rolling that joint (full of ground-up weed, not just broken up with fingers/scissors) run a lighter under it, spinning the joint a few inches above it. Keep going until the joint is pretty warm/hot to the touch. This dries out your sealing spit AND toasts the weed a little, removing more of the moisture.
If I'm rolling a ton of joints (like the 100 j's my wife took to RenFaire) I roll em up and let em sit out for a few days in the open air to get good and dry.
If I'm rolling a ton of joints (like the 100 j's my wife took to RenFaire) I roll em up and let em sit out for a few days in the open air to get good and dry.
Really? Crispity, crunchity joints (ones that have been allowed to dry out) are horrible IMO. If it doesn't burn easily and evenly w/o doing this, chances are real good you didn't flush correctly and/or you've got overferted weed (it's not so easy to "flush").
I have to agree strongly with el dub:
I'll bet the ground weed in a bowl doesn't stay lit well either, and takes quite a bit of flame to get some smoke going, right? Black / dark ash? Sounds like you have poorly flushed and/or overferted weed.
I have to agree strongly with el dub:
el dub said:
I'll bet the ground weed in a bowl doesn't stay lit well either, and takes quite a bit of flame to get some smoke going, right? Black / dark ash? Sounds like you have poorly flushed and/or overferted weed.
It's funny that you think that feeding "hydro nutes" like that is the correct way to feed a plant. It's no wonder these types of results are commonly achieved.
