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hid lamps being banned?

love?

Member
First of all, the text from that website seems to be from a summary by Osram not the actual directive. It's cool that companies offer consumers info like this but I wish they didn't try to confuse us with marketing speak when they do ("HPS standard quality" is their way of saying CRAP bulbs) .

The original document can be read here: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:076:0017:0044:EN:PDF

They are not banning HID lamps. That would be retarded as they are the most efficient type of light (yes even more efficient than LEDs for general lighting) and they aren't trying to ban any certain technology, only make energy efficiency requirements.

Another thing that needs to be noted is that this directive is for "street, office, and industry lighting". Agricultural use is a different thing I think. At least Bistar states that the directive does not cover lamps having "6 % of total radiation of the range 250 -780 nm between 250 - 400 nm", "11% of total radiation of the range 250-780 nm between 630 – 780 nm", and "5% of total radiation of the range 250-780 nm between 640 – 700 nm"... which to me sounds like "grow lights".
 

MarquisBlack

St. Elsewhere
Veteran
Semi-auto Rifles are the standard for killing humans, this much is true. However, there are instances where killing an individual is lawful, so to argue for the banning of Semi-autos is ridiculous, imo.

Then again, places like the EU want to tell you what kind of bulbs you can light your home with, so I feel like I've heard just about everything.
 

Sgt.Pepper

New member
I can see many legit needs of an individual for different light bulbs. But WTF is the legit need for a semi-automatic rifle where individuals are concerned??? They should ban rednecks!!!!!

I can even find legit uses for my semi auto 12ga as I shoot over 1000 pheasants, quail, chuckar, grey partridge and grouse every year. But semi-auto rifles are for killing people.

Well here in the states when we kicked the brits out and ratified the Constitution, our forefathers had the forethought to put in the 2nd amendment to allow citizens to defend the rest of our rights when tyrannical governments decide as they always have (since the dawn of man) to grant themselves the power to decide who shall prosper and who shall just die. Europeans are in for a treat in the near future. Have you ever read or seen 1984? You'll be wishing you'd kept your arms.
 

phrike

Member
Well here in the states when we kicked the brits out and ratified the Constitution, our forefathers had the forethought to put in the 2nd amendment to allow citizens to defend the rest of our rights when tyrannical governments decide as they always have (since the dawn of man) to grant themselves the power to decide who shall prosper and who shall just die. Europeans are in for a treat in the near future. Have you ever read or seen 1984? You'll be wishing you'd kept your arms.

2nd amendment doesn't work too well in the US when kept near a grow.

Think 1984 won't or hasn't already happened in the US (and most of rest of the world) too ?

Think an armed civilian rebellion in the first world has or will have any chance of success in this century ? Even if/when the vast majority are rather pissed off ?
 

<~Hades~>

Active member
I can see many legit needs of an individual for different light bulbs. But WTF is the legit need for a semi-automatic rifle where individuals are concerned??? They should ban rednecks!!!!!

I can even find legit uses for my semi auto 12ga as I shoot over 1000 pheasants, quail, chuckar, grey partridge and grouse every year. But semi-auto rifles are for killing people.
So if we have the urge and Are Felt ,that we are being treaded on, we can go kill government officials~Reason are forfather threw that in there, Godbless um , had nothing to do with hunting bullshit
 

RockyMountainHi

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with th
Veteran
I can see many legit needs of an individual for different light bulbs. But WTF is the legit need for a semi-automatic rifle where individuals are concerned??? They should ban rednecks!!!!!

I can even find legit uses for my semi auto 12ga as I shoot over 1000 pheasants, quail, chuckar, grey partridge and grouse every year. But semi-auto rifles are for killing people.

1 "hunter" shoots over 1000 birds a YEAR????
Thats 3 birds a day, every day all year.


Sounds like game limits are for others huh?

and a big F U

And if I want a truckload of semi auto rifles - does that make me a mass murderer?
 

darko_G

Member
why is there always beef anywhere brits and americans converse?

and thanks for your post love? that cleard things up
 
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