Lawyers take your mark......
get set.....
and.....now wait till july. lol
get set.....
and.....now wait till july. lol
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Colorado House Bill 1284
- Thread starter snowschool
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And it has just begun...
There is still a lot of shit that they don't know HOW they will do it.
I am just going to sit back and watch the show. It should be funny as hell, as long as you're not in the middle of it.
It is like your parents saying "Don't do drugs" and then saying "Okay you are doing them, just don't do smack", then "Okay you're doing smack, let's try doing it this way", then "Well that way didn't work, what do you suggest?".
here some excerpts from the NewYork times article on 1284...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/business/27pot.html?pagewanted=1&ref=general&src=me
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/business/27pot.html?pagewanted=1&ref=general&src=me
Good read, thanks trip!
Easy Skanking
Member
Here is the first story regarding a lawsuit that I have seen:
http://www.9news.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=142307&catid=346
Has anyone else seen any others news stories or know of any other dispensaries or people suing related to HB1284?
The lawyers better be suing like crazed mofos with all the money they have been paid on retainers!
http://www.9news.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=142307&catid=346
Has anyone else seen any others news stories or know of any other dispensaries or people suing related to HB1284?
The lawyers better be suing like crazed mofos with all the money they have been paid on retainers!
Greenmopho
Member
Colorado House Bill 1284
^^^ I always enjoy reading the comments on these articles. They make the bickering on icmag seem like intelligent debate...
^^^ I always enjoy reading the comments on these articles. They make the bickering on icmag seem like intelligent debate...
hgherbals420
Member
Hahahaha thats true mopho, there are some real crazies on 9news website... but i guess theres crazies everywhere.
Greenmopho
Member
Just got an email from our attorney regarding the new fees and deadlines:
...some free advertising for Jeff Gard (sorry Warren) ;-)
...some free advertising for Jeff Gard (sorry Warren) ;-)
From Jeff Gards blog:
Now that it is 7/2, I want to make clear the following points:
1. You must be growing and selling only your own MMJ. The 9/1/10 certification does not act as an extension of the deadline for this requirement. Late last night I received clarification from Mr. Matt Cook that the effective date for growing and selling your own MMJ is 7/1/10. Do not jeopardize your hard work by purchasing MMJ from any one other than another established MMC, which has local approval for both its grow and retail operations. Don’t take any one’s word for their own legality – do your own due diligence.
2. Do not continue employing any people with drug felonies, concerning criminal histories (lots of misdemeanors, less-than felony drug convictions, etc.), people with a felony within five years of completing the sentence or anyone who has not been a Colorado resident for two years prior to 7/1/10 (see, prior blogs).
3. Do not operate your business at all unless you are locally approved and/or have applied for local approval for both the grow and retail aspects of your business. If you are a MIP, you can only continue operating if you have local approval/applied for local approval. If your MIP does not grow its own MMJ or you do not have local approval/applied for local approval for growing your own MMJ, you must have a written contract for purchase of MMJ with an established MMC. Please note that the MMC must be locally approved/applied for local approval for both the grow and retail aspects of its business in order to be able to sell 30% of its MMJ to your business. You may contract with up to 5 such businesses.
4. After 7/1/10, the MMC can only possess 2 ounces and grow 6 plants for the number of patients who have assigned the MMC as their “primary center.” As stated in previous blogs, you must convert all patients who have assigned any of the persons associated with your business to be their primary caregiver over to the MMC as their primary center. Use the state’s Change of Primary Caregiver form (there is not MMC primary center assignment form yet available) and make sure to properly complete, notarize and mail to the Department of Health and Department of Revenue, attn. Mr. Matt Cook, certified mail/return receipt requested. Remember – if you have zero patients who have assigned the MMC as their primary center, you may possess zero ounces of MMJ and may cultivate zero plants.
5. You should download the newly minted Dept. of Health patient application for use in acquiring new patients or use the Change of Primary Caregiver forms to assign current patients at the time of sale of MMJ from your MMC. You do not need to continue using any “temporary caregiver” forms (which were never legal anyway, see prior blogs). The forms may be downloaded from: http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medicalmarijuana/forms.html.
6. Begin preparing for the 8/1/10 Department of Revenue MMC/MIP application and save a substantial amount of money for the as-yet undisclosed application and license fees.
7. Please keep careful and accurate records regarding both your cultivation and sale of MMJ. Remember, the state’s microscope for your business will be applied beginning on 7/1/10!
8. For all of the primary caregivers – you must only have five patients, must provide other caregiving services (see prior blogs) and charge only the cost of producing the MMJ. You must notify the Department of Revenue who the five patients are that you intend to continue as their primary caregiver and give notice that you are no longer willing to act as the primary caregiver for the remaining patients. List all of the patients accordingly. SSend the letter certified mail, return receipt requested.
http://www.medicalmarijuanalawcolor...o/post-7110-the-hangover-from-black-thursday/
Now that it is 7/2, I want to make clear the following points:
1. You must be growing and selling only your own MMJ. The 9/1/10 certification does not act as an extension of the deadline for this requirement. Late last night I received clarification from Mr. Matt Cook that the effective date for growing and selling your own MMJ is 7/1/10. Do not jeopardize your hard work by purchasing MMJ from any one other than another established MMC, which has local approval for both its grow and retail operations. Don’t take any one’s word for their own legality – do your own due diligence.
2. Do not continue employing any people with drug felonies, concerning criminal histories (lots of misdemeanors, less-than felony drug convictions, etc.), people with a felony within five years of completing the sentence or anyone who has not been a Colorado resident for two years prior to 7/1/10 (see, prior blogs).
3. Do not operate your business at all unless you are locally approved and/or have applied for local approval for both the grow and retail aspects of your business. If you are a MIP, you can only continue operating if you have local approval/applied for local approval. If your MIP does not grow its own MMJ or you do not have local approval/applied for local approval for growing your own MMJ, you must have a written contract for purchase of MMJ with an established MMC. Please note that the MMC must be locally approved/applied for local approval for both the grow and retail aspects of its business in order to be able to sell 30% of its MMJ to your business. You may contract with up to 5 such businesses.
4. After 7/1/10, the MMC can only possess 2 ounces and grow 6 plants for the number of patients who have assigned the MMC as their “primary center.” As stated in previous blogs, you must convert all patients who have assigned any of the persons associated with your business to be their primary caregiver over to the MMC as their primary center. Use the state’s Change of Primary Caregiver form (there is not MMC primary center assignment form yet available) and make sure to properly complete, notarize and mail to the Department of Health and Department of Revenue, attn. Mr. Matt Cook, certified mail/return receipt requested. Remember – if you have zero patients who have assigned the MMC as their primary center, you may possess zero ounces of MMJ and may cultivate zero plants.
5. You should download the newly minted Dept. of Health patient application for use in acquiring new patients or use the Change of Primary Caregiver forms to assign current patients at the time of sale of MMJ from your MMC. You do not need to continue using any “temporary caregiver” forms (which were never legal anyway, see prior blogs). The forms may be downloaded from: http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medicalmarijuana/forms.html.
6. Begin preparing for the 8/1/10 Department of Revenue MMC/MIP application and save a substantial amount of money for the as-yet undisclosed application and license fees.
7. Please keep careful and accurate records regarding both your cultivation and sale of MMJ. Remember, the state’s microscope for your business will be applied beginning on 7/1/10!
8. For all of the primary caregivers – you must only have five patients, must provide other caregiving services (see prior blogs) and charge only the cost of producing the MMJ. You must notify the Department of Revenue who the five patients are that you intend to continue as their primary caregiver and give notice that you are no longer willing to act as the primary caregiver for the remaining patients. List all of the patients accordingly. SSend the letter certified mail, return receipt requested.
http://www.medicalmarijuanalawcolor...o/post-7110-the-hangover-from-black-thursday/
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Tr33
This also from Gard
1. 7/1/10 is the effective date for all MMJ businesses going forward. I understand that Mr. Matt Cook has told some of you that you have until 7/1/11 to comply. This is not the case. I have spoken with Mr. Cook and corresponded with him on several occassions. In his correspondence he makes clear that your MMC and/or MIP application will be evaluated using the 7/1/10 date. For those of you seeking to add a retail or add a grow after 7/1/10, Mr. Cook advises that both aspects of the MMC must be locally approved on or before 7/1/10.
2. There is no one year state moratorium. However, there is a defacto moratorium in that you cannot operate after 7/1/10 unless you were “established”/locally approved for both the grow and retail location(s) before 7/1/10. Otherwise, you cannot operate until both local and state approval are obtained.
3. Hash is going to be considered an “infused product.” The distinction provided by Mr. Cook is that green stuff in a bag is for MMCs, everything else is for MIPs.
4. There can be no deliveries except in the narrow circumstances provided in HB1284.
5. One grow can supply a MMC with multiple locations and common ownership.
6. One grow cannot supply MMJ to mulitiple MMCs not wholly and commonly owned by the same people. NO INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR GROWS NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE IS TELLING YOU!!!
7. The residency, “no felony w/i five years of completion of sentence” and “no felony drug convictions ever” standards apply for owners, employees and managers of the MMC. The criminal background issues apply equally to investors.
8. The 70/30 rule applies on 7/1/10 and the certification is due 9/1/10. Again, in evaluating your application and 70/30 certification, the state will look back to 7/1/10.
9. MIPs must be locally approved by 7/1/10 to be considered established under HB1284 even if there is no such licensing procedure locally available.
10. The MIP may, but is not required to, grow its own MMJ using a locally approved OPC or may contract, in writing, with up to 5 MMCs to purchase the MMJ for use in making the products. The MIP MMJ cannot be resold to any other business or person, but the MIP can sell its products to any MMC.
1. 7/1/10 is the effective date for all MMJ businesses going forward. I understand that Mr. Matt Cook has told some of you that you have until 7/1/11 to comply. This is not the case. I have spoken with Mr. Cook and corresponded with him on several occassions. In his correspondence he makes clear that your MMC and/or MIP application will be evaluated using the 7/1/10 date. For those of you seeking to add a retail or add a grow after 7/1/10, Mr. Cook advises that both aspects of the MMC must be locally approved on or before 7/1/10.
2. There is no one year state moratorium. However, there is a defacto moratorium in that you cannot operate after 7/1/10 unless you were “established”/locally approved for both the grow and retail location(s) before 7/1/10. Otherwise, you cannot operate until both local and state approval are obtained.
3. Hash is going to be considered an “infused product.” The distinction provided by Mr. Cook is that green stuff in a bag is for MMCs, everything else is for MIPs.
4. There can be no deliveries except in the narrow circumstances provided in HB1284.
5. One grow can supply a MMC with multiple locations and common ownership.
6. One grow cannot supply MMJ to mulitiple MMCs not wholly and commonly owned by the same people. NO INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR GROWS NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE IS TELLING YOU!!!
7. The residency, “no felony w/i five years of completion of sentence” and “no felony drug convictions ever” standards apply for owners, employees and managers of the MMC. The criminal background issues apply equally to investors.
8. The 70/30 rule applies on 7/1/10 and the certification is due 9/1/10. Again, in evaluating your application and 70/30 certification, the state will look back to 7/1/10.
9. MIPs must be locally approved by 7/1/10 to be considered established under HB1284 even if there is no such licensing procedure locally available.
10. The MIP may, but is not required to, grow its own MMJ using a locally approved OPC or may contract, in writing, with up to 5 MMCs to purchase the MMJ for use in making the products. The MIP MMJ cannot be resold to any other business or person, but the MIP can sell its products to any MMC.
9240GrnMachine
Member
so, let me get this straight.. TR33 on line 6... according to this, does this mean that if my center produces more then we need, i can only be 1 other centers 30%?? any thoughts on this??
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Tr33
Gards caps
I have no clue, I'm not sure, just c & p the read for all.
to me...it reads like just one grower for a MMC, and a licensed grower for a specific dispensary can not sell their overload of MMJ to any other than that one dispensary they are contracted to grow for.
anyone?
Greenmopho
Member
From what I've heard Jeff Gard say, no contracted grows, no sub-contracted grows, no 1099 growers. Your grow has to be OWNED by an MMC, and you as the grower have to be an employee of the MMC, under a W-4, not 1099.
An MMC is allowed to have up to 5 off-site grows, with as many (non-felon) employees as they like. Each off-site grow needs to have a "manager" or someone of authority always present.
Supposedly, the DOR is giving grows a choice of either auditors coming every 2 weeks (supposedly) or having a live 24/7 webcam feed to the DOR of your grow....uhhhhh, I'll take door number #1, cuz no one will be watching my webcams but me....what if I like to garden naked?
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cannagirl
I seen him!!!! LMAO!
hgherbals420
Member
who doesnt tend their gardens nude? I know I do... ;-)
