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Is is me or do some growers in Cali actually not want pot legalised??
- Thread starter BORNaSMOKER
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so its kinda funny reading these posts on one you have people calling other people greedy cash growers then on the other the growers are calling people cheap because they want cheaper herb so let's break this down. what you half to understand that with a lot of these cash growers they have have been doing this along time its all they know how do you think humbolt county and mendicino county survive? after the timber fell to the spotted owl its all they had so you half to understand people anger when your messing with lives its not just the growers that are affected think of all the stores that supply the growers needs on the other hand I can see how people want cheaper herb pay 50 for an 8th is expensive but right now ihave seen mids for 25 an 8th so if want to complain about price don't buy top shelf its that simple because if this bill passes you won't be getting top shelf anyways because if they strip the market the only way they make money is mass produce and quality suffers look any american product and it tells you so if you want cheap why don't you grow it yourself..... oh ya because its not easy to grow top shelf if it was there wouldn't be mids or schwag it takes the right equipment and knowledge you should really read the bill before you make up your mind and don't hate on people just because they do what you can't it happens all the timein my oppion right now itsd the best its ever been you have access to many wonderful genetics and products that were just in inner circles why would you want to mess with that with all the elite growers leaving the state.
peace Blue
peace Blue
My buddy got turned away cuz his meds were TOO GOOD!!! Club said "bro your shit is FIRE like some of the best I've seen all year" "BUT" "if I put your meds on the shelf they wouldn't buy anything else!" The club then went with some lower quality shit from another dude there!!!!
It's weird out here in Cali right now, depending who you talk to prices change dramatically. One buddy will tell me how pounds of decent outdoor are going for 1500 and can't get no more than 2500 for the top shelf shit. BUT!! Then talk to another and he's saying 3400 - 4500 for quality shit so it's hard to say what's gonna happen with price cuz if you got the fire them rich kids in LA will pay 80-90 a 8th!!!
so if it was legalized would consumption go waaaay up?
...seems to me consumption might rise slightly, but I doubt there would be a wave of new age pot smoking junkies.
Things would be the same, just less incarceration. How is this a bad idea. I just don't get it.
...seems to me consumption might rise slightly, but I doubt there would be a wave of new age pot smoking junkies.
Things would be the same, just less incarceration. How is this a bad idea. I just don't get it.
i think one of the bigger factors of consumption going up would be drug testing.
i know a lot of people that don't smoke solely because they get random drug tests. but as far as i know there is nothing in the bill related to drug testing in regards to cannabis.
Why do you not want it to be legalized? How many reasons can you come up with?its funny how the non growers, small growers and buyers WANT POT LEGALIZED, and thinks that growers on here are greedy for not wanting it legalized.
its the people who want it legalized who are supporting the biggest drug dealer in California with his initiative, and were getting chastised?
it is well said except it's about 75% bullshit.
so what part is bull shit ? most people leave there thoughts to back up their claim ill be waiting
Learningfirst
Member
Hey all,
First of all interesting subject. I believe I read an article about a city or town in Northern Cali, where some growers were quoted as not wanting this legalization to go through. This was astounding to me as I couldn't believe the logic and point of the article. This point was that the entire community was earning the majority of that town's income & without their Illegal dope grows their economy would suffer. I believed then that it was sad to see someone who is obviously involved in keeping the prices higher than they need to be. And closed minded. If she was willing to post the fact in an intl. magazine that her community was supported by a crime but she didn't want the opportunity to make her profession legit.
Second I thought about the same when I read a post-reply
This is shameful and in my opinion it's the split between legalization, or repeal of prohibition and most importantly access to medicinal mj. I'm tired of greedy drug dealers who want to get all the cash they can from a community of medicinal users who are forced to pay insanely overpriced pot because of the risks for growing illegally. Seems that even though people who are using with permits I'd bet that because of conservative views there are 10 people or more who want & need permits to to every 1 that does hold the permit. When someone is ill and cannot maintain a garden; or doesn't have anyone do be a DG "I find that hard to believe but is possible" they are forced to go to the dispensaries who pay too much and shit rolls down to a low income pensioned disabled person in many cases.
First of all interesting subject. I believe I read an article about a city or town in Northern Cali, where some growers were quoted as not wanting this legalization to go through. This was astounding to me as I couldn't believe the logic and point of the article. This point was that the entire community was earning the majority of that town's income & without their Illegal dope grows their economy would suffer. I believed then that it was sad to see someone who is obviously involved in keeping the prices higher than they need to be. And closed minded. If she was willing to post the fact in an intl. magazine that her community was supported by a crime but she didn't want the opportunity to make her profession legit.
Second I thought about the same when I read a post-reply
This is shameful and in my opinion it's the split between legalization, or repeal of prohibition and most importantly access to medicinal mj. I'm tired of greedy drug dealers who want to get all the cash they can from a community of medicinal users who are forced to pay insanely overpriced pot because of the risks for growing illegally. Seems that even though people who are using with permits I'd bet that because of conservative views there are 10 people or more who want & need permits to to every 1 that does hold the permit. When someone is ill and cannot maintain a garden; or doesn't have anyone do be a DG "I find that hard to believe but is possible" they are forced to go to the dispensaries who pay too much and shit rolls down to a low income pensioned disabled person in many cases.
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good point there are gonna be those people out there. I have tryed to look at it from both sides now I'm just gonna look at it from my side. Iam a medical paient right now I can have a 10 x 10 and this suits my needs just fine it enought space to have a pair of mothers and some clones and the rest of space for the grow. yes a 5x5 is enough space to grow a crop for the whole year but it doesn't let me grow a selection I don't know about other paients but I need a strain for morning or afternoon that won't bog me down and a nightime to help me sleep with the new curent setup I wouldn't beable todo it unless I did it more than once a year but I have a hard enough time doing it once a year but enough with that. maybe I'm making to much out of this but it took a long btime just to get prop 215 to get passed I don't really feel like going backwards now. one thing I found that you should look into is the 4 permits part of it.
peace blue
Learningfirst
Member
I have more opinions on this matter as it enrages my senses for what is just, and logical.
I think Repeal of Prohibition would also discourage the connection from pot to more harmful substances. As most know the underground pot world can very often lead one to much more harmful & addictive substances. This is something that no suffering person should be tempted or forced to being involved with this sort of crowd. Especially if that person is a clean recovering addict. Funny that sort are often given gov. heroin.
Also - the Repeal of Prohibition should be in full effect. NOT just for those who need it for symptoms of terrible afflictions. We are adults and as adults should have the same right on whether to smoke cigarettes (responsible for millions of deaths) and alcohol.
It has been a very high priced "war on drug" campaign & it's about time the governing powers that be give their heads a shake. It's been long enough since "Reefer Madness" yet those morons on the other side of this issue are obviously not thinking clearly about the positive things that would occur in the community.
Once more another more aggravating thing about the Powers of those who govern is the basic corruption and hypocritical reality of their facade. I strongly oppose the entire system as it's proven itself to be an unfit form of government. Too many over payed people getting not nearly enough done; and what it does achieve is far too often not for the benefit of the people of the nation and what they want. I truly hope that something changes for fear that everything will implode on their mountain of lies.
Suppose I am just another hippie hoping for another revolution to come around and change how shit happens when the Man comes down on us. Only difference is I want this revolution to be a massive global reckoning. Sorry for extreme Rant - people have to say WTF and then proceed with Action to change something. I type this and feel I did something but it's not nearly enough - yet it's more than the countless number of people who aren't visiting this forum in fear of the Man invading anyone privacy on a whim.
I think Repeal of Prohibition would also discourage the connection from pot to more harmful substances. As most know the underground pot world can very often lead one to much more harmful & addictive substances. This is something that no suffering person should be tempted or forced to being involved with this sort of crowd. Especially if that person is a clean recovering addict. Funny that sort are often given gov. heroin.
Also - the Repeal of Prohibition should be in full effect. NOT just for those who need it for symptoms of terrible afflictions. We are adults and as adults should have the same right on whether to smoke cigarettes (responsible for millions of deaths) and alcohol.
It has been a very high priced "war on drug" campaign & it's about time the governing powers that be give their heads a shake. It's been long enough since "Reefer Madness" yet those morons on the other side of this issue are obviously not thinking clearly about the positive things that would occur in the community.
Once more another more aggravating thing about the Powers of those who govern is the basic corruption and hypocritical reality of their facade. I strongly oppose the entire system as it's proven itself to be an unfit form of government. Too many over payed people getting not nearly enough done; and what it does achieve is far too often not for the benefit of the people of the nation and what they want. I truly hope that something changes for fear that everything will implode on their mountain of lies.
Suppose I am just another hippie hoping for another revolution to come around and change how shit happens when the Man comes down on us. Only difference is I want this revolution to be a massive global reckoning. Sorry for extreme Rant - people have to say WTF and then proceed with Action to change something. I type this and feel I did something but it's not nearly enough - yet it's more than the countless number of people who aren't visiting this forum in fear of the Man invading anyone privacy on a whim.
Who is "they"? if you are referring to phillip morris or some other corporate boogeyman just filter this thread for my debunking of this irrational line of henny penny bullshit
as for the rest of your post again just filter this thread so as to prevent me having to type logic to dispel emotion for the umpteenth time
hope this helps your "waiting" problem
Who is "they"? if you are referring to phillip morris or some other corporate boogeyman just filter this thread for my debunking of this irrational line of henny penny bullshit
as for the rest of your post again just filter this thread so as to prevent me having to type logic to dispel emotion for the umpteenth time
hope this helps your "waiting" problem
lol is that It..... "they" well I was using they for maker and enforcer of bill because I was pointing that killing the value of cannabis could result in a decline in quality again I was speculating just like anyone else but once again you had nothing helpful to say for your cause.
peace blue
again filter this thread its all been said time and again why should i repeat it for someone too lazy to read the whole thread?
as for the maker and enforcer those would be two separate entities...unless you think richard lee is going to be deputized?
and you think r.lee is going to single handedly crash the entire california marijuana market and cause a++ quality to disappear from existence?
you prohibitionists are all propaganda and no substance
lol instead of attacking other peoples ideas maybe you come up with some of your own and substance most of. all the pro people. in this thread just attack the otherside without fact. if you don't wanna atleast give some helpful feeedback or atleast another point of vew but that's because you know dick about the subject so you just flame other peoples idea way to go..
TC2010 has nothing to do with Prop 215, and affects it in no way (directly.)
I was reading that in order for a bill to pass it needs to start with support in the mid sixties (percentage-wise) and TC2010 started with 56%, and has fallen to 49%.
Snowball's chance in hell, this year anyway.
I was reading that in order for a bill to pass it needs to start with support in the mid sixties (percentage-wise) and TC2010 started with 56%, and has fallen to 49%.
Snowball's chance in hell, this year anyway.
A member on here posted after seeing one of Lee's 100K light (yes 100,000 1000W lights) and Lee mentioned he was in the middle of building a 200K light op in the LA area.
Tons of weed flooding the market every month, produced more cheaply than you can compete with,
KB said it best, smokers want weed cheaper, but growers don't. Why should Richard Lee get the lions share of California cannabis? His clubs will be able to sell weed to ANYONE that walks through the door, or would have, if TC2010 were to pass. He's dying to be the McDonalds of weed.
