Double D's MPB Playing With Fire

[420Gurl]

One Hell of a way to peak a girls interest.. Roll in the big tubs and start an RDWC system that yields huge!! Taking a seat in this garden... yep..

 

[extreegrowerrr]

WOAAAAA! 20GALS KEEPING IT REALL!

 

[socalsinner]

MPB

MPB

why?

isnt concept of kbs/kfb less pl@nts and more light?

or, roughly 1-2k per pl@nt...

after only run tomato tree for few tyme-warp lyght-yrs, found that they really prefer 1k on ea syde, or 2k per plant. can do just 1-4 plant w/ 2-8k & maybe have < fruit w/ >pl@nts, maybe...


the very 1st tree garden that gypsy & bubbleman shared w/ boards was maybe 10k & 12 pl@nts... they had to crawl into the room...

the klown brought this method to board in detail, along w/ several others... just for historic accuracy. may find some points of original 'bucket system' that apply, still...

mainly, what kr&sty stated that very accurate: low stress environment.

in any event, this may be helpful:
The Krusty Bucket

hope klown hatrs (tr0lls) dont appear...

Most of my plants get 3K and none get less then 2k each. With all due respect we know a better way then Krusty now. If DD would chime in here it would be helpfull but. The MPB bucket system is an intense environment and the plant if prepared for the stress will deliver. We put an HIBLOW 80 airpump that is meant for 30 yards of water and place an airstone in each independent bucket along with a fast moving undercurrent. This along floor fans shooting straight up below the lights to cool the heat pockets. 1500- 1800 PPM Co2... No top lighting all side lighting and bare bulb. ( had to use crappy cool tubes the first MPB) along with other environmental controls and training will get you the biggest mamas you could ever imagine. Ill post pics of our first MPB 10 with 5 ladies. I cant wait to see these ladies rock!

 

[socalsinner]

MPB Brotha

MPB Brotha

looks good bro. if you decide to go with the xoxo pattern and not rows, then Please try at least 50in centers, unless your growing his donkey dick 1:1,000,000 million strains aka DD g-13. if your doing rows you can pull off the 40in centers because diagnally the plants are further that 40in

The pics looks liek rows but you posted a xoxox pattern layout so I wasnt sure, either way hope this turns out for you. still doing the Fucking INcredible cross?



mistress
each plant gets 3-4000w, but it doesnt mean you need 2 1000w bulbs for each plant. thats where the xoxox pattern comes into play and it takes less bulbs to light the plants, with rows you have soo many bulbs that light plants from one side only, with the xoxox pattern the back side of most bulbs light one side of another plant. with the xoxo pattern you usaully end up with and extra light or two so 7plants=8lights ect

Ahh shiet dizzle. Whats up brotha? We actually have 4 rows of 5 plants each row with three drains that drop into two res's. I wanted to do the 40 spacing becuse next run we will be adding a 7.5 ton ac and running 40k lights with 20 . our lights are actually about a foot away from the sides right now dead center to plant side. Still trying for a little more growth. Lets hope all goes well with this one and the next will get the full light treatment. The grid I drew in the other post was more of a general guide. I could get the dam X's to look right lol

 

[extreegrowerrr]

40k shiiit

 

[mrdizzle]

no doubt brother i hope this pops off for you, you def have the right strain, that shit looks bangin. I would veg them a little longer than your last run, 4-7day and buy a mop to clean up your all the drool in 2months

 

[420Gurl]

Most of my plants get 3K and none get less then 2k each. With all due respect we know a better way then Krusty now. If DD would chime in here it would be helpfull but. The MPB bucket system is an intense environment and the plant if prepared for the stress will deliver. We put an HIBLOW 80 airpump that is meant for 30 yards of water and place an airstone in each independent bucket along with a fast moving undercurrent. This along floor fans shooting straight up below the lights to cool the heat pockets. 1500- 1800 PPM Co2... No top lighting all side lighting and bare bulb. ( had to use crappy cool tubes the first MPB) along with other environmental controls and training will get you the biggest mamas you could ever imagine. Ill post pics of our first MPB 10 with 5 ladies. I cant wait to see these ladies rock!

WOAH!! Those TREES look awesome! Damn! I love em'.....

 

[extreegrowerrr]

lol arizona ice teas are where its at during trim time lol

 

[mcattak]

Wow....

Those tables are the way to go ... So much better access to the bottom of the plant...

If you can next round you might think about drains for each row that way you have access to the whole plant...

Again looks sick...

How big are your rez's?
What size type of chiller??? Just got the 2ton jbj..Sick...
What size and type of a/c???

You are going to do so much better without the cool tubes..

A little side note...DD's latest advice is to veg in a 6x6 rockwool cube...I am doing that this round and not sure if I like all the moisture they retain...For what its worth I like the 3x3...

Lets see some more pics...

Go big or go home...I will update you on my latest 30k 18 plant mpb...

mc

 

[socalsinner]

Hey Diz. I kinda wanted to limit my liability on this run .. if that makes any sense. I know with my first MPB we did great but I was always worried about if one lady gets sick or something happens then I lose a shit load of weight... I think were gonna experiment a little with the light but we will keep DD's entire system exactly how he designed his.(besides the light) The next run were gonna probably run a 10 lady grow with 20 k and also run my buddys system with trays... he wants to compete lol. your gonna like his shiet too. He designed his own irrigation system.

 

[socalsinner]

MPB Brotha

MPB Brotha

Wow....

Those tables are the way to go ... So much better access to the bottom of the plant...

If you can next round you might think about drains for each row that way you have access to the whole plant...

Again looks sick...

How big are your rez's?
What size type of chiller??? Just got the 2ton jbj..Sick...
What size and type of a/c???

You are going to do so much better without the cool tubes..

A little side note...DD's latest advice is to veg in a 6x6 rockwool cube...I am doing that this round and not sure if I like all the moisture they retain...For what its worth I like the 3x3...

Lets see some more pics...

Go big or go home...I will update you on my latest 30k 18 plant mpb...

mc

Hi MC nice to see you here too brotha. Were running to main reses 115 gal each. The MPB's are standard 15 gallon. I have two 1/4 HP for one res and one 1 HP for the other. I have a minisplit 32k, and two 25k window units. Damm I real do hate those cool tubes lol. The reason why I like the 6 inch cubes is the massive root growth it can hold. I kinda have to fight to keep the cube moist because ours are only covered by about an dinch or two at the bottom with hydroton. What happedned to you on the other site?

 

[mrdizzle]

I had that same problem with the rockwool cubes, I couldnt keep them perfectly wet until they got down in the tubs. I switch to the coco pots and I run to feedlines splashing against the side of the coco and it stays perfectly moist

i suggest running a sterile res, DD uses that hydrofungicide, 1tsp bleach per 50gal will also keep it in check. Its pretty hard to get rot in this system if the water stays chilled, I got it by cutting my topfeed then turning it back on 4days later. the roots died and turned super slimmy and rotty getting that top feed again, the roots in the tubs were fine but the plant was fucked.

things to look for

they stop drinking, all of a sudden the res level doesnt change
the leaves start to look leathery , they will not have a snap to them if you pluck a leaf
there seems to be a random leave yellowing, but not like during flush, like its got painted a bright yellow

 

[ZENARCADE]

Cool system! thread tagged!

 

[mcattak]

Had to lay low for a while...Other people in the group didnt like what I was doing on here so I need to mellow out with the threads and pics

I used the 6x6 cubes this time and starting the 3rd week of flower....I am just really surprised at how wet they are....Even went as far as cutting off the drip to a few...Even the ones with out the drip are moist...

The thing I worry about is movement in the cubes...I have grown in rockwool for a long time and these plants get so big and heavy I really worry about movement and rot...
Probably over think it...

Once plants were vegged in the 10" netpots 24/7 I didnt notice any difference between the different size rockwool cubes...

Do you have new pics...

mc

 

[still2big]

why?

isnt concept of kbs/kfb less pl@nts and more light?

or, roughly 1-2k per pl@nt...

after only run tomato tree for few tyme-warp lyght-yrs, found that they really prefer 1k on ea syde, or 2k per plant. can do just 1-4 plant w/ 2-8k & maybe have < fruit w/ >pl@nts, maybe...


the very 1st tree garden that gypsy & bubbleman shared w/ boards was maybe 10k & 12 pl@nts... they had to crawl into the room...

the klown brought this method to board in detail, along w/ several others... just for historic accuracy. may find some points of original 'bucket system' that apply, still...

mainly, what kr&sty stated that very accurate: low stress environment.

in any event, this may be helpful:
The Krusty Bucket

hope klown hatrs (tr0lls) dont appear...

I really wish your PMs worked. Id like to know who you are. Ive read a lot of your post through out the site and you know your stuff. You remember the clown and if i had to guess i might say "Reaper" from back in the day...but i dont know. You had to be on overgrow though...

 

[mrdizzle]

pics of the coco or the cubes? I would skip the rockwool all together if can and just veg in the 10in net pot lids, I dont think the 6inch worth of roots means a whole lot, I believe the roots in the bucket is the lifeforce to this system.

 

[mikeross]

wow looks outstanding....

Is that 40" from center of plant to bulb or is that 40" plant stem to plant stem?

 

[socalsinner]

MPB

MPB

wow looks outstanding....

Is that 40" from center of plant to bulb or is that 40" plant stem to plant stem?

Thanks. 40 inch center of stems.

 

[socalsinner]

MPB

MPB

pics of the coco or the cubes? I would skip the rockwool all together if can and just veg in the 10in net pot lids, I dont think the 6inch worth of roots means a whole lot, I believe the roots in the bucket is the lifeforce to this system.

HEy Diz I asked DD this same question about the 6 inch cubes and he said he has tred it both ways and he feels the 6 inch is the way to go . Im gonna try a side by side grow rdwc in veg with chiller and veg with cubes for the same time

 

[socalsinner]

Had to lay low for a while...Other people in the group didnt like what I was doing on here so I need to mellow out with the threads and pics

I used the 6x6 cubes this time and starting the 3rd week of flower....I am just really surprised at how wet they are....Even went as far as cutting off the drip to a few...Even the ones with out the drip are moist...

The thing I worry about is movement in the cubes...I have grown in rockwool for a long time and these plants get so big and heavy I really worry about movement and rot...
Probably over think it...

Once plants were vegged in the 10" netpots 24/7 I didnt notice any difference between the different size rockwool cubes...

Do you have new pics...

mc

Hey MC. You know your posts of your first MPB were what inspired me to make these tables.