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CAN"T BELIEVE THIS SHIT WITH MARK EMERY GOING TO JAIL!

Kalicokitty

The cat that loves cannabis
Veteran
Its the people that allow thees travesties to continue by not letting your representatives know how you feel and not voting to back up your feelings. If they don't listen you can get rid of them.
Ah yes, wouldn't it be great if we could actually do that, unfortunately the free thinking, open minded people are a very small minority compared to the kool aid swilling masses here.
They believe everything their politicians and preachers tell them, and that's how they vote.
Blind folded and brainwashed, they flock to the polls.
Until we can cull a large number of these "god fearing" rubes we will be stuck right where we are now for a long time to come.
 
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m00nchild

If anyone wants to change things, the first thing they must do is FINALLY, once and for all, realize that the vote means nothing. It's just a way that the powers that be have fooled us into thinking we have a democracy. I'm not saying I know what the answer is... I'm only saying I know what it isn't...
 

elwaponino

Member
Well with Canada shame on them for not protecting their OWN citizen. And shame on America for butting into another countries LAWS, that state it is legal to sell cannabis seeds. I think America took it personally when Mark said he wanted to OverGrow the government, meaning sell seeds that even if confiscated, there would still be an abundance to smoke.

Now about voting, that's a two sided coin, because until we have enough "We the People" to vote for principals, and values, like consistent voting for the Constitution, things will be the same. But if we also vote with our money, and actions, that will do much more, simply put, let BANKRUPT the businesses that do bad business, like Haliburton, but more than that, we, and that goes for MEXICO, and CANADA TOO, we need to become vigilant with our rights, take whatever stand you can now, and gradually push forward. I myself am not where I want to be, but taking gradually steps is better than taking up the ass like we have been doing.

Now if there's anyone to blame, it's really ourselves for not being assertive enough, gain knowledge and pass it around guys....

Research Ron Paul
Alex Jones
Michael Badnarik
 
M

m00nchild

I would totally start voting if there was a shred of evidence that it mattered.
 
It's unfortunate but having a big mouth paints a target on your hind end. The bigger the mouth the bigger the target. I think everyone on all sides of this issue can agree that Mark had (has) one of the biggest mouths in human history. There was another outfit busted around the same time and that guy didn't get any kind of a sentence, might have been a stiff fine though.

If the Canadian gov't is really scared of the US they're just pussies. We need Canada's natural resources, and if the Canadian politicians weren't such pussies they'd realize that they have the leverage to make the US say Uncle. Pussy Communists!


Yeah I agree, I still cant believe Canada gave in that easy....We rely on Canada's natural resources to much to close down the border over some dude selling pot seeds.....I thought for sure they would tell the US to get bent, but they didn't and thats sad..... And for that , yes, the Canadien government are a bunch of pussies.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
I really don't understand how anyone can describe Mr. Emory's seed business as a 'rip off'. Yes, he charged way too much, but it isn't like he had the market cornered and was the only game in town. There were plenty of other options that were much less expensive easily located with a google search. As far as sending out product other than that ordered I've never heard that one about him until now, and that would qualify. I'm not sure why I wouldn't have heard about this when he was actively selling, but then again I didn't want to pay his prices. That is how I deal with products that are unreasonably priced.I find a merchant with a reasonable price. It's not a ripoff to offer a product for sale at an outrageously high price unless you have some hold on your client base such as being a monopoly. This certainly didn't apply to Mr. Emery. All of those he sold to entered into the transaction voluntarily and to the best of my knowledge initiated all the transaction. Perhaps his customers appreciated everything he did to promote cannabis noramlization. I know people buy stuff from charities and other political causes at significantly inflated prices because they want to support that charity. When I was involved in the local NORML chapter we sold t-shirts for $30 each, with comparable T-shirts available at Wal-Mart for $10. People bought boxes of the things nevertheless. That he did a lot of work a lot to promote and advance our cause is not even up for debate. Only a blistering idiot could conclude otherwise, the same type of blistering idiot that's working against TC2010 in CA. For the most part those who hate him seem to think he fucked up that because he didn't approach the issue in a manner of which they approved, or for some unexplained pathology thought offering things for sale to willing customers is a 'ripoff' because they disapprove of the price.

OK if he sent out product other than that ordered he's a ripoff no doubt, but I'd like to see proof. As polarizing as he is a few posts by people claiming such wouldn't be proof because so many have extreme, irrational emotions regarding the man. Both those who love him and those who hate him are guilty of that.

That he got royally screwed by the US for a 'crime' which finds no other people convicted of and imprisoned in the US is also not up for debate.

I still think it happened because Canadian Politicians are pussies. It's a long tradition dating back to when Canada decided to be Britain's bitch until Britain was so kind as to grant them some manner of independence. I'm sure they would have been welcome allies of the Founding Fathers of the US.
 
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Green Supreme

Bitches or bullies. Justify it how you want. One finger forward 3 fingers pointing back. Peace GS
 

junior_grower

Active member
I agree the Canadian government rolled over. But now so too will the US to there master and owner CHINA. It all came down to money, at the time the us was and still is the most important trading partner of Canada and vise versa. Emery Knowingly took the risks, he publicly challenged the government too come after him.
 

Hash Zeppelin

Ski Bum Rodeo Clown
Premium user
ICMag Donor
Veteran
is it true that marc emery is kind of a pedophile? if so then let him sit in prison
 

superbolan

Active member
he grew out seeds from breeders then sold the offspring as the breeders seeds at higher than the breeders prices. several breeders complained they never sold him seeds at all. If you grew out his seeds it was genetic roulette. if you'll do some searching you will find that in the end this was well known, also on his forums he threatened outing someone who had a disagreement with him. if he was the prince of pot he was the clown prince
 
G

Green Supreme

Man you just explained the whole seed industry pointing your finger only at Emery. Now that's some funny shit. Peace GS
 

RoastedO

Member
If anyone wants to change things, the first thing they must do is FINALLY, once and for all, realize that the vote means nothing. It's just a way that the powers that be have fooled us into thinking we have a democracy. I'm not saying I know what the answer is... I'm only saying I know what it isn't... the illusion of voting and democracy was put in place specifically as a red herring, as a way to keep distracting the people.

And it worked, because now all anyone says to me when I tell them that America was taken over and is nothing at all like it was when our founding fathers wrote up the Constitution, is "Well then why don't you just write your congressman, why don't you just vote them out of office?" And bla bla bla...

I'll tell you why... because the vote means NOTHING!! It's a distraction!! America is NOT a democracy, and anyone with access to a Webster's dictionary can see this for himself. Would anyone care to know the actual word to describe our type of government? It is a little-understood word known as "fascism." That is correct. America is fascist. Don't believe me?



Just to get the gears turning. (Bold emphasis mine).
:rolleyes:
FAIL
 

superbolan

Active member
How is that the whole seed industry do you think thats what gypsy does? When i get seeds from the boo i know what I am getting. Do you think gypsy claims to sells seeds from breeders that he has no relationship with? There will always be genetic diversity but you cant sell f3's and worse and call them f1's. that a deception. I still feel sympathy for Marc despite being personally ripped off by the guy. But he was a robbing hood not a robin hood
 
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Green Supreme

So this practice is new to you for the seed industry? Peace GS
 

OjoRojo420

Feeling good is good enough.
Veteran
Never cared for the guy...

Much more decent folks are doing way longer sentences for less serious Cannabis offenses.

A tedious Bipolar/Schizo who, like Timothy Leary, will do more harm than good.

He'll do fine...

American jails are a joke.

YES, from experience!!!!
 

superbolan

Active member
There will be crooks in every business but were discussing one who put himself on a pedestal as a hero , yes he donated tens of thousands to legalization at the same time he was making millions by ripping off the same people he claimed to be helping. Does he deserve to be in jail for selling seeds? NO . Was he a crook? YES.
 
G

Green Supreme

I am pretty sure at one time Gypsy remade C99 does that mean he is a crook? Not to me. Peace GS
 

superbolan

Active member
No, And he is selling them as F2's not original brothers grimm c99. He's also got seeds for sale that were never grown out and he tells you this. Thats called integrity in business.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
Veteran
superbolan, I happen to know for a fact that he had 10s of thousands of satisfied customers. Reiterating your baseless assertions and telling me to search the web is just laughable. You're making some pretty serious assertions against the man. I think you are wrong. I have been paying attention and doing web searches since 2003, and believe I would have found said assertions had they existed. It's possible that they were made by people with no credibility such as yourself and I just discounted them the same as I'm doing with your posts today.
 

superbolan

Active member
so you've been researching this topic for 7 yrs.? way to plan ahead buddy Sorry if your hero was one of the villains, Hell i didn't even bring up him and the 13 yr old girls. Discount away
 

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