What happened to honor and gratitude?

[JamieShoes]

sadly you'll learn that this is just the way the world turned out mate.... it's not wrong of you to wonder why people are such shit heads, whatever DID happen to "decency"?


what your experiancing is "find out who your mates are now youre not growing" syndrome, something I am currently going through. I've recently nursed a friend through operations, recovery, hospital appointments and general hard times,giving him free and heavily discounted meds, constantly checking he had shopping in etc... well now I'm not growing he's gone from visiting 4 or 5 times a week to I havent seen him in 6 weeks. the reason is simple, he's recovered, working, owes me a 100 bucks and I have out lived my use to him...it's a shame but what can you do? I can count my "real" friends with one finger...not even a hands worth ...lol


fuck em, in this life you can count on literally just the one person...yourself!

 

[Sandnut]

this is why its better to be feared than loved

 

[Vermonster]

if you trust anyone i don't trust you and if i trust you i would never trust myself. trust no one. never, ever.

I will lend friends shit and front things out, but nothing i dont expect to lose or have to take back by force....i used to a be a whole lot diffrent 10 years in this shit has made me a cynical ( i believe smarter/stronger) person.

Ps: no honor amongst thieves. leagalize and we can deal w these jokers in court!!!!! although current methods are generaly mucho quicker!

 

[HippyJohnny]

Giving is for ones self, not the recipient. If you give with no expectations of return it's never a problem and you don't need a gun for it either.

If someone displays lack of honor, I always verbally inform the individual expressing disapointment.
Making sure they know I had placed them in a position of honor and that it is gone now.

The tard's that dont care, well so be it. The ones (nephew) that I will see in the future and are perhaps trying to do better have something to think about. But it must be defined. I would definitely make sure a confrontation occurred.

Maybe Sunday will be better for you on the hockey front...

 

[tokinafaty420]

Gun?

Right! What the hell is he thinking? You'll need something larger than a gun. See if you can obtain a tank or atleast an APV.


I'm sitting here thinking "hmmm how could I help this man?" "how could I help pay back the favors his own friends and family refuse to?" then I remembered most likely the favor would never return to me, even by someone who has been hurt in the same way. Its life. I've been burned and abused by people I thought were friends in the past. Give them a reason to think about their decision and remove them from your life.

 

[KGB47]

Best to let it go and chalk it up to a life lesson or you'll get ulcers.

Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me.

 

[Crazy Composer]

I, personally find that the people you help most, are most often the people that screw you the most.

When a perfectly capable person needs a lot of help, it (usually) means they don't help themselves. And if a person doesn't honor themselves, why would they honor you?

What's more... the capable person who accepts help over and over, is a dangerous person to deal with because they have become comfortable with borrowing stuff they should be providing for themselves.

Beware of the serial borrower! Hell... beware of humans! When a human fits my idea of honorable, it is more of a rare, pleasant surprise than something I expect. After thinking on this, I realize how much I appreciate my dogs and chickens.

 

[sparkjumper]

You'll learn to never be surprised at peoples behavior when money is involved,thats always the culprit.My own brother has stolen erb from me,tried to break into my house and when I said enough is enough he blackmailed me saying if I cut him off,he'd make a phone call.Unbelievable shit happens when the almighty dollar is involved.The older you get,the less surprised you become about peoples behavior.I've become a bit jaded lately,havent wanted to talk in PM to my friends here,stopped hanging with just about anybody.To do this for years and years the less friends and the more isolated you become,the better chance you have of success

 

[MagdaAndBernie]

Wow, thanks everyone for your responses. The Mrs. is blown away, and damn near teary (she is really upset about both things).

Just a note. I don`t give expecting something in return. Well, I expected the return of the loaned equipment, but the herb is different. I was asked, and happily helped out, many times. The nephew offered, I didn't approach him. He offered, after asking if I had any at a family function, at which point I told him about our lean times. I didn't "chase" him for it, let the first let down slide until he apologized at next family function for not coming thru (or calling or anything). Then he offered again. The last time I told him to forget it.

Thanks again, folks. It really has helped. Even the mild criticism, because you are all right.

b

 

[JacuzziSplot]

What happened to honor and gratitude?

your not allowed to fight for it anymore in our legal and political environment.

 

[MarquisBlack]

My own brother has stolen erb from me,tried to break into my house and when I said enough is enough he blackmailed me saying if I cut him off,he'd make a phone call.

I thought the suggestion of bringing a gun earlier in this thread was going a little far, but in the case of threatening to blackmail me, (with a call to LEO) I would make it clear to that person-

If you make that phone call, you will end up in my compost pile will your fillings missing. Believe that.

 

[Lucky 7]

And yes, I've even faced the threat of blackmail, very sad; unfortunately the person is no longer with us . . .I pause for a moment of silence . . .

 

[SuperSizeMe]

Does suck to feel like you've been taken advantage of.

In the case of the loaned equipment and so-called "friend", that'll be the best money you ever spent to get rid of such a person.

Your nephew on the other hand, that's a tough one...but know this, the ebb and flow of life will turn and you will be in a position to be generous again.

And there he'll be, hand-out for "help" once again...what will you do ?


Peace,

SSM

 

[Dojo]

You'll learn to never be surprised at peoples behavior when money is involved,thats always the culprit.My own brother has stolen erb from me,tried to break into my house and when I said enough is enough he blackmailed me saying if I cut him off,he'd make a phone call.Unbelievable shit happens when the almighty dollar is involved.The older you get,the less surprised you become about peoples behavior.I've become a bit jaded lately,havent wanted to talk in PM to my friends here,stopped hanging with just about anybody.To do this for years and years the less friends and the more isolated you become,the better chance you have of success

Words have never had as much truth as this...