expected yield?

[944s2]

hiya all, using x3 600watts in a room 12ft by 8ft, in 11ltr pots with all mix, organic nutes, i grow from seed, different strains but cant seem to get above 60/65oz on a usual grow, i hand water, have a good enviroment, steady temps etc,usually 28 to 32 girls in there,am i getting the maximum from the three lamps i am using? i would welcome any opinions and ways to improve yield,i have tried less plants and more plants but yield always around the same, i always grow from seed as i enjoy [or sometimes not!] the many varieties on offer, regards to everyone thanks 944s2

 

[cheecha07]

IMO your low yield could be do to a few things. first off depending on how long you veg, what plants your growing (some are just crap for yield. I would try training less plants horizontally with a slightly long veg (depending on how long your current is) cram as many under the lights as possible and keep the light as close as possible without burning and your yields should be much better, Although I believe the best is to cut clones and shoot them straight to flower, after rooting of course, i believe this is usually the most productive way, because it allows much more plants and cuts the length of the grow. Hope this helps.

 

[geopolitical]

Growing from seed with random genetics means you'll most likely never max out your system. There's nothing wrong with that. Stick with a few clone lines and a system becomes much easier to max out.

More variety = harder to make everyone 100% happy.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Expect NOTHING.... that way you'll be pleased with whatever you produce.


This field, like any other, takes time to learn.... always expect issues and eventually you won't have them anymore. The more info you retain.... the larger your yield will be. Keep reading!

Stay Safe!

 

[Stoner Chick]

hiya all, using x3 600watts in a room 12ft by 8ft, in 11ltr pots with all mix, organic nutes, i grow from seed, different strains but cant seem to get above 60/65oz on a usual grow, i hand water, have a good enviroment, steady temps etc,usually 28 to 32 girls in there,am i getting the maximum from the three lamps i am using? i would welcome any opinions and ways to improve yield,i have tried less plants and more plants but yield always around the same, i always grow from seed as i enjoy [or sometimes not!] the many varieties on offer, regards to everyone thanks 944s2

60oz is a pretty good yield from 3x600watts i would think. Your space of 12x8 seems rather large for the lighting. Even 3x1000 would leave you lacking for watts/square foot if you are growing horizontally when using that 50w/square foot rule.

 

[KUSHEATER1]

you won't beat that add it up that's about 4 lbs from 3 600's what more do you want if you want more get 1000's and then I'm sure you will get more but still won't be happy...

 

[944s2]

you won't beat that add it up that's about 4 lbs from 3 600's what more do you want if you want more get 1000's and then I'm sure you will get more but still won't be happy...

hiya all, thanks for your replys, in response to kusheater, i try to grow for quality rather then quantity and am happy with my yields. i posted because i needed advice from others with more insight/experience and wondered if by improving my grow,i would increase my yield, i have no contact with any other like-minded people and just wanted to also find out if i was doing "ok" with the lamps, after reading your and the other posts i now know using larger bulbs and growing from clones would increase my yield, but i will carry on as normal, every harvest is a bonus and i am sorry you felt the need to write " that even if i get more i wont be happy" as this is totally not the case but thanks to yourself and the other posters for letting me know i am doing ok with my 3x 600watts regards from london 944s2

 

[Stoner Chick]

Keep up the good grow 944!

 

[redspaghetti]

By the look of that you're geting 1gpw or very close to it.
Also you seem like you know what you're doing and got your system dialed in pretty good.

Now if you're doing horizontally, i suggest you take the hoods off and give vertical a try, im sure you will see your yield will increase.
Just a suggestion, thats all
cheers,
red.

 

[944s2]

hiya, stoner chick and red, thanks so very much, good luck and all the best to your future and present grows, keep well, 944s2

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

once you are hitting 1 gpw u have to get creative. CO2 seems like the next reasonable step

 

[Dorje113]

I agree you're doing well with the 600s. If you're growing for quality I'd add a couple 400 W halides or look into ceramic metal halides. I've had good luck and better quality combining the 2, then got away from it when the Horti Eye Super HPS came out, but now I'm going back to it trying out a Horti Blue 1kW bulb, which is a 600HPS and 400MH combined in one tube lit with a 1000 HPS ballast, it's like having the 2 side-by side, not a perfect blending of the 2 spectra but pretty good and looking better than HPS by itsself.

I've never used ceramic mh, but users seem to really like 'em and the quality of light looks really good.

 

[Wasabi420]

yea I would try upping the wattage or trying out a heavy yield strain like ak-47. deffinately try to go with 1 or two strains or maybe just try to get similar strains to get an even canopy. or you could do a sog

 

[thal]

I've used a 1000w Hortilux HPS in the past and had good luck with it. Even as a newbie grower I was able to produce some of the post potent buds I've ever sampled.

For my current medical grow I decided to switch to a 600W HPS and a 400 CMH. I've never seen plants that look as happy as mine do now. I highly recommend adding some CHM lighting to anyone's grow.

 

[SmokinErb]

Heath Robinson pulled about 2.3 lbs off a single 600w.

Critical Mass was his strain of choice - Probably the most important choice, as someone else has mentioned. Strain is everything when it comes to yield. Your plants will only produce as much as they're genetically capable of.\

Didn't see you mention what you were growing?

 

[SmokinErb]

Oh my bad, I thought this was in the vert forum.

Dude, you're basically @ 1 gpw. For a horizontal grow, you're aces man. Change the orientation of the bulbs if you want more. Easiest way right there.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Expect NOTHING.... that way you'll be pleased with whatever you produce.


This field, like any other, takes time to learn.... always expect issues and eventually you won't have them anymore. The more info you retain.... the larger your yield will be. Keep reading!

Stay Safe!

Obviously I didn't read your entire first post. I blame that mostly on the lack of proper meds for my head around here. *sheesh* Dispensaries are nice... but this russian roulette each week... trying to find something that works, sucks



A more helpful suggestion from me would be something like....

I would switch from seed to clones... Seeds can be pretty uniform... but nothing makes for an optimum garden like identical clones the same size, growing at the same rate, taking up the same amount of space.

The second suggestion would be (since you now have a bunch of bonsai mums for cuttings).... Run one strain at a time and keep a backlog... or at least one strain under each light. This will allow you to keep things uniform and evenly distributed.

Third suggestion.... rotate your plants a 1/4 turn... at least once a day, or every 6 hours...if you can.

Fourth suggestion.... your lighting is really low for that space. Listen to the advice above. Optimally, for the lighting you're using, you should have plenty of space in that room that doesn't have plants and lights over it. Each light should have it's own setup of 6 plants, or so. I run 9 under a 1K hps.... and that's a lot of canopy... with some reaching almost beyond the light range... your 600's won't do 9 plants efficiently, unless they're tiny.

While you're implementing those ideas.... keep reading up about sealed rooms and CO2.... should be fun down the road, once you plateau again.

Stay Safe!

 

[944s2]

Heath Robinson pulled about 2.3 lbs off a single 600w.

Critical Mass was his strain of choice - Probably the most important choice, as someone else has mentioned. Strain is everything when it comes to yield. Your plants will only produce as much as they're genetically capable of.\

Didn't see you mention what you were growing?

hiya sorry about that, i"ve just finished california orange and just in veg with nebula, hope that helps regards 944s2

 

[944s2]

Obviously I didn't read your entire first post. I blame that mostly on the lack of proper meds for my head around here. *sheesh* Dispensaries are nice... but this russian roulette each week... trying to find something that works, sucks



A more helpful suggestion from me would be something like....

I would switch from seed to clones... Seeds can be pretty uniform... but nothing makes for an optimum garden like identical clones the same size, growing at the same rate, taking up the same amount of space.

The second suggestion would be (since you now have a bunch of bonsai mums for cuttings).... Run one strain at a time and keep a backlog... or at least one strain under each light. This will allow you to keep things uniform and evenly distributed.

Third suggestion.... rotate your plants a 1/4 turn... at least once a day, or every 6 hours...if you can.

Fourth suggestion.... your lighting is really low for that space. Listen to the advice above. Optimally, for the lighting you're using, you should have plenty of space in that room that doesn't have plants and lights over it. Each light should have it's own setup of 6 plants, or so. I run 9 under a 1K hps.... and that's a lot of canopy... with some reaching almost beyond the light range... your 600's won't do 9 plants efficiently, unless they're tiny.

While you're implementing those ideas.... keep reading up about sealed rooms and CO2.... should be fun down the road, once you plateau again.

Stay Safe!

hiya hydro, thanks for taking the time out to post your replys,i agree max 8 under one lamp and as i grow from seed, i put the less uniform or weaker girls on the edge, still giving them lots of love but not as much light, i know i should thin these "weaker" girls out at an earlier time but with a good fem strains coming in at £70 to £80 for 10 seeds its hard to do,. i hope you have better luck at your dispensary in the future, summers coming! so thanks again hydro, keep well and safe, regards from cloudy london 944s2