5000 barrels a day of oil (210,000 gallons) leak off the coast of Louisiana

[MoldyFrogToe]

Good post ^ it really goes to show what can happen when the avg citizen (for whatever legitimate reason) is not able to keep up with the technology we use to survive every day, or the consequences of it when it fails. It's hard not to be disconnected from these things, who really can relate to what they are doing when they drive to work in their car every day, it equates to what we're seeing now though and is a little easier to feel.

 

[Ray-Ray]

oil has been spewing out at about 13,000 PSI. BP failed to properly check the BOP, and it failed under high pressure. I was told this by an engineer that has been in the gulf working with this problem. Bottom line BP got more greedy that usuall, shortcuts were taken mistakes made, people died, and now the gulf might die as a result. I love the gulf beache's, and hope they have fixed the problem, But they have lied before and they clearley don't wan't us knowing the true scope of oil that is in the gulf. At first they were obviousley trying to save as much oil as they could for profit or they would have tried first thing to completley seal the well. Greed at it's best if you ask me. I say boycott the sorry bastards. Boycot BP, AMACO, and all companies associated. We all see where the republican chant "Drill Baby Drill" has gotten us. we should all abandon our cars and start communall living. Live off the land, Oil and all the Oil products have made all humans really lazy. We need to get back to the land, If we don't the land will surley destroy us, with a little help from mankind of course. Please Pray for our GULF. If you have never visited the beaches here they are quie beutiful. White sand and Oil sure wont look good together.

 

[Reign of Terror]

2 thumbs down for making the earth bleed...i hope 2012 really is the end

 

[hoosierdaddy]

2 thumbs down for making the earth bleed...i hope 2012 really is the end

i hope folks like you are few and far between

 

[Stoner Chick]

2 thumbs down for making the earth bleed...i hope 2012 really is the end

I rather Doom & Gloomers "go out" by themselves instead of wishing everyone dead with them - which is the chicken shit way.

I have children and a hope for a future. You can take your hopes for 2012 and take a flying nose dive off a tall building, by yourself.

 

[LovableHuggable]

oil has been spewing out at about 13,000 PSI. BP failed to properly check the BOP, and it failed under high pressure. I was told this by an engineer that has been in the gulf working with this problem. Bottom line BP got more greedy that usuall, shortcuts were taken mistakes made, people died, and now the gulf might die as a result. I love the gulf beache's, and hope they have fixed the problem, But they have lied before and they clearley don't wan't us knowing the true scope of oil that is in the gulf. At first they were obviousley trying to save as much oil as they could for profit or they would have tried first thing to completley seal the well. Greed at it's best if you ask me. I say boycott the sorry bastards. Boycot BP, AMACO, and all companies associated. We all see where the republican chant "Drill Baby Drill" has gotten us. we should all abandon our cars and start communall living. Live off the land, Oil and all the Oil products have made all humans really lazy. We need to get back to the land, If we don't the land will surley destroy us, with a little help from mankind of course. Please Pray for our GULF. If you have never visited the beaches here they are quie beutiful. White sand and Oil sure wont look good together.

You need oil to eat. Think about it. Give up your car? LOL. I hate all this shit as much as the next person but going communal and giving up a car? Please pass the shit you're smoking as it must be really good. The world is awash in oil and modern life DEPENDS on it as things are now. Take it away right now without taking several years of preparations and the mass starvation and economic depression that will ensue will not be matched by any event in 5000+ years of recorded human history.

 

[LovableHuggable]

Also all your republicans don't all want oil and nothing else. This is from a site that is very very far right and for all you liberal tree huggers I'm sorry to say but not a single freaking one has laid out a plan this damn good.

Our nation has abandoned a cohesive, self-sufficient energy policy for more than thirty years. We are thus saddled with a foreign policy demands driven not from our own national self-interest but that of our need to maintain our nation's energy supplies. This is an untenable position for our nation and we must reverse course immediately.

Nuclear power is the only technology available for high-quality energy production (in the form of electricity) on a mass scale. Breeder reactors are fuel-cycle positive and their construction and capability has been available to us since the 1960s. We refuse, rather than being unable, to use this technology. This is unacceptable; a combination of breeder reactors and advanced design fission plants are, in aggregate, able to operate for thousands of years using the fuel supplies known to exist within our borders.

We have the ability, given sufficient electrical generating capacity, to produce both newer-generation hybrid vehicles and biodiesel from aquaculture. Between these two technologies, along with the electrification of our rail system we can have a 100% carbon-cycle neutral transportation complex within fifty years. Personal transportation such as automobiles can easily reach 50mpg with today's technology and in excess of 100mpg (blended) in a hybrid vehicle using a small (e.g. 30-40hp) diesel engine as an adjunct to primary battery capacity. Such a vehicle cannot "run out of juice", it is refueled exactly as cars are now using our existing infrastructure, it can travel for short distances (~10-20 miles) entirely on an overnight charge consuming no liquid hydrocarbons and yet will travel indefinitely on the highway at 70mph while returning in excess of 60mpg of diesel fuel. The engine, available today, will burn any mixture of petroleum or biologically-sourced diesel.

During the time it will take to bring these energy resources online we can and must exploit the petroleum we know we have. This means drilling offshore and on, in Alaska and elsewhere, not as a means of a permanent solution but as a way to provide the energy America needs while we repair the malfeasance and misfeasance of the last thirty years. We have the technology available to extract oil and natural gas without doing material environmental damage, and we must do so.

If, in the future, battery technology advances to where we can replace liquid hydrocarbons with storage batteries while retaining the capabilities required for personal transportation then such a step should be taken. However, there is no evidence that such a breakthrough is going to occur in the short and medium term.

Solar, geothermal, wind and wave energy are all available to us but in many cases are either uneconomic or are politically sensitive, and in most cases (geothermal excepted) are not available for "base load" generation as their output depends on the vagaries of the weather. Where the argument is economic delaying their widespread use until they can be deployed in a cost-effective manner without subsidy makes sense. Where the objection is political, we must move forward, as no nation can grow and maintain its economy without securing its energy sources, and America is no exception.

This path forward requires no technological innovation we do not have, it is not "pie in the sky", it can be implemented now and yet is not being taken.

America must, and can, become energy independent. We have a workable plan to do so, and we will execute it where the provision and delivery of energy reaches across state lines.

Production and consumption of energy wholly within the borders of a State is, as with all other matters of intrastate commerce, properly beyond the reach of The Federal Government.

Now that's a fucking plan to fix this oil driven bullshit. This is using existing tech (oil) to usher in carbon neutral green tech for the future. It's baller.

http://federationist.org/platform.html

Edit: And before anyone says drilling isn't safe you better go look at just how many platforms operate in the Gulf and how many have caused a real damaging spill. The % number is super super low. This spill is going to end up showing that drilling is safe and that BP fucked it up. There are rumors on the financial blogs that BP is going into a voluntary receivership. http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=138009

 

[hoosierdaddy]

I wonder if maybe God will send in a hurricane to punish the misguided racist bastards of Arizona, that will help speed along the natural absorption of the oil as it passes along the gulf. Obama's girl was saying something like that today...wait, maybe she didn't say anything about Arizona...but the rest of it I am pretty sure I heard....
Are there beaches in Arizona???

Anywho...
Obama was on the beach today...saw some tar balls. Said "Come on down!"
Oh, and he takes full responsibility for this deal. You betcha! (what a joke)
I think they may have waited a bit longer for a better photo op, what with more goo and all, but the capping just may take place soon. Need to take shots and move on. Draw up the needed paperwork for the upcoming prosecutions and all... (it was reported while the Pres. was on the beach that only a small handful of beaches actually have any contamination whatsoever)

(lol...way to much...we are being led by ideological buffoons...actually, we aren't being led at all, besides astray..)

LOL...and you people laughed at Bush the whole time he was in. Good grief how we have dumbed down our society. (shaking head)

 

[ROJO145]

Maybe someone can educate me a little?What exactly was Obama suppose to do when this happened?And How has HE not done what he was suppose to do?As far as I know,since day one he been aware of it and doing what we as a country need to do,right?Or was he suppose to be there scrubbin ducks with a sponge?Just wonderin
I just dont see what Obama has do with an oil spill??
Why would he take full responsibility over something he had no part of?

 

[BreakingBad]

 

[MoldyFrogToe]

Obama was supposed to mobilize the largest oilspill cleanup effort in all of human history, instead he did next to jack shit and for 40 days we've seen inadequate response while oil just sits on the surface.

Where is the preemptive boom placement around ALL soon to be affected shorelines? This is the most pathetic crap in all of American environmental history! Florida is ready to get slammed and nothing is happening, Louisiana is just sponging up oil with no skimmers or booms or barriers or anything in a huge amount of places. Wtf??

He takes full responsibility in orchestrating a response, not for the actual accident. Obama F'd up on this bigtime. He acted just like a politician would, ignore and minimize until absolutely the last second, blame, point fingers, etc. He didn't give this anywhere near the attention it needs and still isn't, he only jumped off his chair when he saw people started getting pissed. So much for being a credible leader.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

What a leader would do, once they were provided the depth and seriousness of the incident, would be to rally all the forces available to combat the thing, instead of using each and every detail of the issue for political gain, clout, or ammo.
A real leader would realize the seriousness of the issue and forgo all the other bullshit until the smoke cleared.
A real leader would depend on the experts in this sort of things...which would be the engineers at BP and their affliates, as well as the brightest and best the industry had to offer from competitive companies.
A rally of forces could happen and should happen, IF a for-real, seasoned leader were in charge.
It's obvious that we have an ideological buffoon in charge that has no fucking clue what a leader should do. How could he? He hasn't led squat his whole life.
But he has hope and change for all of us. It will be in the mail with my check.

Bobby Jindal is a leader, and is doing his best to help his people. He wants permits...FUCKING PAPER permits so he can do some damage control. He can't get the red taped bureaucratic federal monster to give him what he needs, so he had to resort to commandeering private citizens boats in an attempt to something. Even if the federal government is HAMPERING his efforts. Hey, if I know about that issue, surely fuck stick Obama knows about it. Could he not be a fucking leader and make the call? Give the man the paperwork..or better yet, fuck paperwork...you give that governor what he needs to do what he can. Period. AND NOW!
See, that is how you lead. You don't lag back to make sure the (R) in the picture looks bad.

I hope folks realize that they got exactly what they voted for.

 

[MoldyFrogToe]

Obama acted exactly like he said he wouldn't, yup!

 

[ROJO145]

A real leader would depend on the experts in this sort of things...which would be the engineers at BP and their affliates, as well as the brightest and best the industry had to offer from competitive companies.

Thats exactly what he did!!
Its not the governments job to clean up a private companies mess,well it is now I guess right,lol!What branch of the service to we get to clean up oil spills of epic proportion?Your saying the US government should be ready to soak up any oil spills that may occur?Really?lol,really!!Obama was suppose to organise the biggest oil cleanup in history??Really,WHY??Why didnt any other country organise this?What makes it our responsability to clean up BP's mess??
It is THERE responsibility only,to think the US government is responsible for and has the means to clean this spill is stupid.
How did I know you would LOVE Bobby Jindal!!!
Tellin ya,lets meet in the field,all you motherfuckers!!!You know whos ya's are.....cleanse the planet so to speak!!

 

[Stoner Chick]

Maybe Obama will come through in the end with his true skills and leadership ability by 'organizing the community' into doing a hay bale chain gang for that brilliant idea of tossing hay into the water to absorb the oil that has been circulating.

Obama had nothing to say about this oil disaster for 8 days, but somehow when a law professor in Massachusetts get's hassled by a cop while attempting to suspiciously enter his own home gets a reply from the President of the United States in 8 hours after the fact.

So let's see. National disaster that will affect millions = 8 days to reply. Local matter involving a professor and police officer = 8 hours to reply.

Priorities are obvious.

 

[ROJO145]

Priorities are obvious.

They most certainly are aint they!!

 

[MoldyFrogToe]

Thats exactly what he did!!
Its not the governments job to clean up a private companies mess,well it is now I guess right,lol!What branch of the service to we get to clean up oil spills of epic proportion?Your saying the US government should be ready to soak up any oil spills that may occur?Really?lol,really!!Obama was suppose to organise the biggest oil cleanup in history??Really,WHY??Why didnt any other country organise this?What makes it our responsability to clean up BP's mess??
It is THERE responsibility only,to think the US government is responsible for and has the means to clean this spill is stupid.
How did I know you would LOVE Bobby Jindal!!!
Tellin ya,lets meet in the field,all you motherfuckers!!!You know whos ya's are.....cleanse the planet so to speak!!

It's the govt's responsibility because BP doesn't GAF about us as a country. It is in our best interest, I would rather rely on the military working in conjunction with BP than BP being directed by Obama and his admin/the coast guard. The military and the govt have the resources in things other than dollar terms, BP has the technology & the money.

And look what we got for relying on BP....oil slicks sitting for days with no preparation & really no emphasis on cleanup or protection of coastline. Pathetic. It really is almost like a joke that this is the best we can do. The priorities most certainly are obvious, profit over safety, broken govt and industry regulation, and very little concern for the environment.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Another failure of leadership, another President sitting around with his thumb up his ass while Louisiana is decimated. It's the same old. "It's not my job attitude."

The government could be skimming these marshes or providing the resources ($$$$) for them too. They have endless resources (print more money out of thin air), but do nothing but ignore Jindal's requests. Nothing is being done because no on really wants to do anything. Most of the Coast Guard assets have been put under the direction of BP, until now from what I understand, and they could give a fuck less if Louisiana goes down in flames. Shame, shame, shame.

 

[ROJO145]

Oh ya can cry and moan,doesnt change the fact that its NOT the governments job to clean up the mess,as much as ya want it to be.Bobby Jindal wasnt worried about none of this last month,yeah,lets keep things straight!He should have worried about it last month right and asked the gov for help?Of course he only wants the government involved when he needs money!!Build a fuckin city 3 feet under water then cry the government aint fixin it when the levy breaks!!It was ALL GOOD for ole Bobby when all them rigs was makin money and employin thousands.....never heard him bitch or worry about oil spills till now,hmmm.
Are ya's really even for real?Thinkin our gov should be down there cleanin up?thinkin its Obamas fault and he isnt doing enuf?Get your heads outta yer conspiracy theory asses!!

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Rojo, your high school thug mentality is your biggest problem. You should really work on some self help issues...gain some skills...and then come back and try to debate with sane people.
As is, you are looking pretty stupid. You really don't have much direction in anything you provide, past you picking up a talking point or two, and you do seem to understand that you are not for the republicans. Take those dirty bastards to the field and be rid of them so we can CLAIM VICTORY! Sad thing is, you have no fucking clue what the prize is or what the fight is about.