Colorado Growers Thread

[rmccinc719]

grab your heals guy's and girls your all about to get fked. more raids are coming and you could be next. as we have seen several of us have been raided in the last week and there not finished yet. i got hit as part of 7 other raids last week in the spring's. bastards broke down several doors causing a couple grand in damage. after all was said and done i was in complete compliance and the cops left with nothing but some pictures for evidence and my computer with all my video survallence. i also heard they are going to be hitting houses next.

 

[Kelly.]

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[dev0n]

bastards broke down several doors causing a couple grand in damage. after all was said and done i was in complete compliance

Wow - do you have a good attorney on retainer? Have him get with other victims, find out what judge(s) are signing these warrants, and file an injunction against the execution of more of them for -- shit a bazillion reasons? What the hell is going on in Colorado? I remember the Ishmael Mena case and then Columbine was a goddamned disgrace but for the most part judges and LEOs got cooler the further you got from the actual city of Denver. Jesus.

 

[Rednick]

Got my papers ready.
Shouldn't have to carry papers in America,
but,
Oh Well,
Fascism takes many forms.

 

[cannagirl]

it seems like they are only bashing down doors in The Springs, has anyone else heard of others raids? I am curious to know what any of the warrants say they are issued for and by WHO of course...

 

[Rednick]

Medicinal Fried Chicken.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267110/?autoplay=false

 

[SELFHEMPLOYED]

Bubba D day 37

OG Kush day 37

The White day 37

Chem 91 (va) day 37

Chem D day 37

 

[Greenmopho]

i have found that chemical nutes are easier to flush out than organic nutes

BUT

i have always found organic buds to taste much better. I am eating a bowl of organic cereal, with organic strawberries and bananas...and I will definitely tell you that organic fruit tastes MUCH sweeter and more complex than conventional grown fruit.

Same goes for cannabis. BUT, you can certainly have great tasting conventional buds if grown right

Couple days too late, but, I totally agree with you. LOL
The thing is, food crops are so messed with and mass produced, the difference between conventional and organic is huge, and even more compared to homegrown! But with cannabis, IMHO, the most important ingredient is LOVE!!!

(Yes, I'm a dirty fucking hippy...Love is all you need....too bad LEO can't get hip to that)

 

[cannagirl]

Having grown up with a step-dad that was a commercial non organic tomato farmer, I can say with 100% surety that commercially produced non-organic food is nothing compared to non-organic maryjane. The chems used in spray machines over 1000's of acres are highly toxic just to breath and federal regulations require full haz-mat suits, even inside an enclosed and aircon'ed tractor.

They pick tomatoes when they start turning pink, and if you have even been on top of a picking truck you will see that the ripe tomatoes get throw back into the field, as they would never survive transport and packaging. Then once these "pinks", so they are called, get to the packing house, they are put on a conveyor belt that takes them into the gassing house, this is exactly what it sounds like, where they use methane gas to artificially ripen the fruit.

There, to my knowledge, is no way to artificially ripen marijuana and hence the reason that even though derived salts are used, with a good flush the taste can and usually will be equal to organically grown as the plant itself is still taking up the same compounds. The only difference is how those compounds are derived and added to the plant for consumption, whether its microbials or straight ferts.

 

[Greenmopho]

Hey SELF, thats a sweet camera you got...wish my pics could come out like that. You got a DSLR with a nice macro lens? If you do, I'm jealous.

My $150 point-and-shoot Canon just can't do that. I try to use flash for pics, since I know HPS isn't good lighting for bud pics, and w/o a good macro lens, when I take close up bud shots to get trichs with flash, it comes out blurry.

Heres my update with my best attempt at professional pot photography, hope you can see my PM covered buds somewhat clearly.

They are all at day 44.

ECSD (see...kinda blurry)

The Sour Fucks are really outshining their parent Sour Diesels, yield-wise.

Finally getting DJ Short's Flo dialed in on this run, hard to get a good yield out of her, but she's looking far more voluptuous and trich-covered this time!

And then I have this unique WW pheno I started from bag seed. It grows really hempish and is very sativa dominant. It grows ugly unsymmetrical curly leaves, and shows bleaching/streaking on its top leaves if it doesn't get pounds of magnesium. It can handle more nutes than anything in my garden, it is a monster. First run of her was very low yielding, but the smoke really had a very nice taste. I think it is somewhat of a mutant white widow and looks, smells, and tastes like no other white widow I have ever seen. This run of her is showing much bigger buds and good trich coverage.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

Having grown up with a step-dad that was a commercial non organic tomato farmer, I can say with 100% surety that commercially produced non-organic food is nothing compared to non-organic maryjane. The chems used in spray machines over 1000's of acres are highly toxic just to breath and federal regulations require full haz-mat suits, even inside an enclosed and aircon'ed tractor.

They pick tomatoes when they start turning pink, and if you have even been on top of a picking truck you will see that the ripe tomatoes get throw back into the field, as they would never survive transport and packaging. Then once these "pinks", so they are called, get to the packing house, they are put on a conveyor belt that takes them into the gassing house, this is exactly what it sounds like, where they use methane gas to artificially ripen the fruit.

There, to my knowledge, is no way to artificially ripen marijuana and hence the reason that even though derived salts are used, with a good flush the taste can and usually will be equal to organically grown as the plant itself is still taking up the same compounds. The only difference is how those compounds are derived and added to the plant for consumption, whether its microbials or straight ferts.

With me it is a simple fact of having plenty of weed to smoke. 2-3 zips off a organic plant, as opposed to over double with GH, isn't much of a choice for me. I'm kind of old school though, first and foremost, I like to get really stoned (ie lots o joints). Taste comes in a distant second. lol. I say this because, I have had some puprle ass shit, that smelled like god's vagina, but left me hanging.... What in the world is the point of that?

I am a firm believer in genetics. A LOT more can be gained or loss with the strain choice, than the method. I think this, cause I have bought almost every type of fert, nute, organic media, biodynamic cow skulls set out during a lunar eclipse filled with a elk spleen and pissed on...

I am just saying, for me, giving the plant exactly what it needs, then washing it away has given me the best all around results.

While some might say there is a definite difference in the two (oganic vs chem), I am the school of thought, that a proper flush is a proper flush.

However, you will always have a quality product, when you choose the right genetics. There is nothing worse than growing a plant perfectly, and the smoke be worthless.

As far as the organic vs non-organic produce thing. While "organic" store bought produce is probably a tad tastier than non-organic. I don't see/taste the price difference. Which is sometimes double. I have also yet to taste a "organic" vegetable, that beats the taste of a homegrown veggie out of my garden. Which is not organic.

Once again we deal in the subjective, and there is no right or wrong answer I suppose.

I hope everyone stays off teh radar.

Rmmc: At least they left your stock.

 

[P. Dondrub]

That's the ones Trip----




If I ever try to make BHO with one, I'll remember that, but the lighters are fine. And Yes4prop215 was looking for a torch lighter

Most of the torches I see are either commercial tool pieces or exceedingly cheap POS that lasts about a week...

I have a couple weeks on one and so far, so good.

The torch probably won't make a difference, but the fluid will.

What rednick said. Use the same gas for the torch that you would to make BHO.

I bought this one, happened to be next to home depot when I decided to finally act on it. Although had to go elsewhere for the good butane.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...Id=10053&productId=100564678&N=10000003+90043

Not sure if this is the best one, but it certainly tastes better than a bic. It doesn't seem to light itself for some reason though.

The beeline, if you use it with a vaporizer where you suck the heat to the ceramic element above the pot, leaves a twine taste through the vapor.... I think its more likely to be able to get something inflammable like butane to fully combust into flavorless and harmless gases than it is something like twine. And this comes from a guy who has smoked plenty of twine embers! (a traditional method in India, if you do the embers right, they don't have much flavor, but you have to puff the bowl at first for a while so it wastes a lot)

grab your heals guy's and girls your all about to get fked. more raids are coming and you could be next. as we have seen several of us have been raided in the last week and there not finished yet. i got hit as part of 7 other raids last week in the spring's. bastards broke down several doors causing a couple grand in damage. after all was said and done i was in complete compliance and the cops left with nothing but some pictures for evidence and my computer with all my video survallence. i also heard they are going to be hitting houses next.

Sorry to hear about your troubles, and please let us know if you find anything else out.

they use methane gas to artificially ripen the fruit.

There, to my knowledge, is no way to artificially ripen marijuana and hence the reason that even though derived salts are used, with a good flush the taste can and usually will be equal to organically grown as the plant itself is still taking up the same compounds. The only difference is how those compounds are derived and added to the plant for consumption, whether its microbials or straight ferts.

You'd think they'd use ethylene = ripening hormone.

Folks have always said not to dry one run in the flower room of the other run cause of ethylene buildup. Maybe at the right time during the cycle....

 

[P. Dondrub]

As far as organic vs chem goes, I heard that with 1284, all non-organic products used on the plant have to be listed. Sounds interesting....

We should take a poll: who here would rather smoke meds from plants that, during the veg cycle, were dipped in floramite and eagle20, vs organic meds with sulfur spray and pyrethrin bombs used on the plant within 5 days of harvest???? And you know some of these guys at the shop are doing that.

I see shops using dichlorvos and claiming organic meds.

For me, the pesticide issue is always the crux with organic vs inorganic food too. See this:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/349263_pesticide30.html

The peer-reviewed study found that the urine and saliva of children eating a variety of conventional foods from area groceries contained biological markers of organophosphates, the family of pesticides spawned by the creation of nerve gas agents in World War II.
When the same children ate organic fruits, vegetables and juices, signs of pesticides were not found.
"The transformation is extremely rapid," said Chensheng Lu, the principal author of the study published online in the current issue of Environmental Health Perspectives.

 

[StrictlyGateway]

We should take a poll: who here would rather smoke meds from plants that, during the veg cycle, were dipped in floramite and eagle20, vs organic meds with sulfur spray and pyrethrin bombs used on the plant within 5 days of harvest????

so we've got the never ending subjective argument of chemmies vs. organics? it's about the flush....church.

it's funny that many of the same folks swearing by taste are telling me to soak my nugs in butane....sounds wonderful! BHO? woohoo cannabis with splash of butane? i don't get it.

 

[Rednick]

it's funny that many of the same folks swearing by taste are telling me to soak my nugs in butane....sounds wonderful! BHO? woohoo cannabis with splash of butane? i don't get it.

They are talking about SuperCriticalFluidExtraction, which will grab only the good molecules, because no WATER means NO Green Shit.

Then use CO2 if you can...The problem with that is Butane is much easier to work with given the requirements.
You should be able to get almost/if not all the Butane out if you know what you are doing.

Taste with good BHO is second to none. Maybe CO2 is better, never tried.

Ventilation, Ventilation, Ventilation. I do my purge OUTSIDE.

 

[P. Dondrub]

so we've got the never ending subjective argument of chemmies vs. organics? it's about the flush....church.

it's funny that many of the same folks swearing by taste are telling me to soak my nugs in butane....sounds wonderful! BHO? woohoo cannabis with splash of butane? i don't get it.

Flush is not an issue with the pesticides/fungicides I mentioned in my post.

 

[Greenmopho]

Colorado Growers Thread

Flush is not an issue with the pesticides/fungicides I mentioned in my post.

I prefer to only use azatrol an pyrithium until the 2nd week of flower. Anything systemic such as imid or floramite should only be used on mothers or EARLY veg, like as soon as quaranteened clones get strong roots! And only a single application, its systemic, you don't need to use it constantly. I only use systemic stuff on new clones, and only once. Pretty much takes care of the next few generations. In bloom i prefer a light spray of a nicotine and hot sauce tea, and I like the CO2 bombs...kills everything. One 20lb tank costs $18 per refill...W2G wants $150 for a small bottle of floramite....no thanks. CO2 works great and usually costs 30-50 cents per plant per treatment. Anyone using those poisons during bloom has no excuse....

 

[SELFHEMPLOYED]

Hey SELF, thats a sweet camera you got...wish my pics could come out like that. You got a DSLR with a nice macro lens? If you do, I'm jealous.

My $150 point-and-shoot Canon just can't do that. I try to use flash for pics, since I know HPS isn't good lighting for bud pics, and w/o a good macro lens, when I take close up bud shots to get trichs with flash, it comes out blurry.

Heres my update with my best attempt at professional pot photography, hope you can see my PM covered buds somewhat clearly.

Haha it's not the camera my friend J/K


But yes it is a DSLR, it was my birthday present to myself this year. Nothing crazy a Canon Rebel t2i, it is the latest and greatest rebel model and I dare say technology is getting so good that it honestly compares quality wise to the 7d which is 2x price. No macro lens, just the kit lens. I'm saving for a really nice macro but damn they are expensive.

 

[aceofspades]

Haha it's not the camera my friend J/K


But yes it is a DSLR, it was my birthday present to myself this year. Nothing crazy a Canon Rebel t2i, it is the latest and greatest rebel model and I dare say technology is getting so good that it honestly compares quality wise to the 7d which is 2x price. No macro lens, just the kit lens. I'm saving for a really nice macro but damn they are expensive.

I have a pentax and just got some nice tamron lenses. You might check out the tamron site and see if they have a decent macro lens for your needs!

Ace

 

[Greenmopho]

Colorado Growers Thread

Haha it's not the camera my friend J/K


But yes it is a DSLR, it was my birthday present to myself this year. Nothing crazy a Canon Rebel t2i, it is the latest and greatest rebel model and I dare say technology is getting so good that it honestly compares quality wise to the 7d which is 2x price. No macro lens, just the kit lens. I'm saving for a really nice macro but damn they are expensive.

Well of course the camera is only part of it! If you take pics of ugly buds with a sick camera, you end up with that whole HDTV ugly news anchorman effect. Seeing Rick Sanchez on CNN HD has given me nightmares...