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1000w 29 site e&f

Aksala

Member
That light is close...how do you keep the temps at the canopy down without sucking air through the hood? Badass A/C?
 
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jrosek

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excellent show man!
some serious frost in there, what strains you running over there??

not changing the rez? you ever try changing the rez at least at every 10 days? made a huge difference for us. you should try it if you havent yet.

Good growen man!
 

Raphael

Member
WOW, those are some juicyfrosty sativas!
I agree! Thanks for looking

That light is close...how do you keep the temps at the canopy down without sucking air through the hood? Badass A/C?
Actually I don't have A/C at all in that room, just a 6in vortex exhausting when the temps go over 80 or so. I think that the 21" wall mounted oscillating fans help to make sure all the leaves shake or flutter which is important. I guess the answer is air movement.
Thanks for looking!

excellent show man!
some serious frost in there, what strains you running over there??

not changing the rez? you ever try changing the rez at least at every 10 days? made a huge difference for us. you should try it if you havent yet.

Good growen man!
Thanks for the compliment jrosek! There sure is some frost up there. I want to say it's Blue Dream, but earlier in the thread I said it was Sam the Skunkmans x Haze so either one of those it's a haze / indica hybrid.

Changing the res would improve things if there was something going wrong like root rot, or if for some reason the salts were allowed to concentrate to high levels like res drying up. Luckily I have it auto topping off, so every week or so they drink through the 55 gallon reservoir which is the same as changing the res it's just gradual. What kind of difference did it make for you guys? Are you running Ebb n Flow tables?

Thanks for looking and for the comments, much appreciated. Keep it irie:)
 
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jrosek

ok.. im not trying t argue or start a long heated debate bro.. but think about this for a second.
auto topping does not change out the rez. plants shit out waste just like any other living organism. the build up will stay in the rez until its dumped. what it essentially does is foul your water and food uptake. you cant see it, smell it or taste it but its there for sure bro. have you ever noticed after 4 weeks or so that your feed rate slows down or that you do not have to add as much feed? or staul completely? that is why.
fresh rez changes for us made much healthier plants and much bigger over all plants.
like i said bro, im not trying to be a know it all or tell you what to do.. but try it on one rez and see what happens. peace bro! J
 

Raphael

Member
ok.. im not trying t argue or start a long heated debate bro.. but think about this for a second.
auto topping does not change out the rez. plants shit out waste just like any other living organism. the build up will stay in the rez until its dumped. what it essentially does is foul your water and food uptake. you cant see it, smell it or taste it but its there for sure bro. have you ever noticed after 4 weeks or so that your feed rate slows down or that you do not have to add as much feed? or staul completely? that is why.
fresh rez changes for us made much healthier plants and much bigger over all plants.
like i said bro, im not trying to be a know it all or tell you what to do.. but try it on one rez and see what happens. peace bro! J

As plants produce their own food, things are a little different in plants than in heterotrophs.

However there are waste products from photosyntheis (its the opposite reaction of respiration eg carbon dioxide + water (and sunlight energy) --> glucose + oxygen. Respiration is glucose + oxygen -> carbon dioxide + water (and ATP energy))...these wastes in plants are gaseous and pass out the stomata in the same way carbon dioxide enters it.

Plants do also respire, but this is generally done at night, and both carbon dioxide and water are again gaseous and pass out stomata...

Wiki link

The feed rate at week 4 of flower may be slower due to the plants finishing their stretch and since all they have to do is build bud they eat less because it doesn't take as much food to build bud than to build the plant higher.

I enjoy conversation as well as anyone's input, thanks again!:)
 
J

jrosek

ahh, your link is about photosynthesis, not the actual nutrient uptake. in your rez at 4 weeks you are correct about slowing because the stretching is stopped, however this is only part of the nutrient up take, they will slow on nitrogen and mag etc.. but require larger amounts of p & k etc... the nutrient absorption will not slow down until they are done if you are dialed in. different stages of growth demand different nutrients that the plant strives for.
this topic has been debated 100's of times before bro, and trust me when i tell you i have seen both sides of the fence with same strains. dialing in your feed program and keeping your rez fresh with what your ladies need most will up your yields and finishig times considerably. only takes a few to swap out a rez bro, try it, you may like it..
peace, J
 
hey sorry if i didnt see it but how many watts is your flowering light? and what is the average temp of your canopy when the light is on? ....canopy look really good, nice and even :)
 

Raphael

Member
dialing in your feed program and keeping your rez fresh with what your ladies need most will up your yields and finishig times considerably. only takes a few to swap out a rez bro, try it, you may like it..
peace, J
I agree with this, but I don't think that the res needs to be switched out every week unless there are other issues.

This turned very educational. I enjoy
Thanks for reading!

hey sorry if i didnt see it but how many watts is your flowering light? and what is the average temp of your canopy when the light is on? ....canopy look really good, nice and even :)

Hey bro its on the thread title

Ya that ^

the avg temp of canopy is 80 with lights on.

Cheers:cathug:
 

Raphael

Member
One of the popcorn branches kinked itself so I pulled it and a couple days later trimmed the fan leaves and here it is

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Actually went back and looked in the log to see what strain this is...Blue Dream looking very frosty

Thanks for looking!
 
looking very frosty.

I used to let my rezzes go a good 2 weeks. have done that with no trouble many times.

but I have been giving it some thought based on observations from my last run.. and if you dont regularly change out your rez, wont your nutrient solution get significantly lower mineral content on the minerals that the plants eat the most? such as N in veg? I was thinking that if they are allowed to eat up that specific rezzes supply over a sustained period that it could result in detrimental effects as the plant would eventually no longer have the desired amount of that particular mineral? even if ppm is close to desired level, wrong make-up of ppm?

im sorry if that doesnt make sense, spacedog got me :bandit:
 

Raphael

Member
looking very frosty.

I used to let my rezzes go a good 2 weeks. have done that with no trouble many times.

but I have been giving it some thought based on observations from my last run.. and if you dont regularly change out your rez, wont your nutrient solution get significantly lower mineral content on the minerals that the plants eat the most? such as N in veg? I was thinking that if they are allowed to eat up that specific rezzes supply over a sustained period that it could result in detrimental effects as the plant would eventually no longer have the desired amount of that particular mineral? even if ppm is close to desired level, wrong make-up of ppm?

im sorry if that doesnt make sense, spacedog got me :bandit:

Yes they are more and more each day frost

I found I do not need to regularly clean my reservation, due to certain factors related to my particular situation I will try to list here.

1. I use reverse osmosis water and a float valve up top of my reservation. If I were to top with tap, it would become a calcium concentration that would make my reading biased ppm. Because my water from above is 0-20ppm not have to worry about trace minerals construction of toxicity.

2. I do not use additives. I use micro and bloom only GH. Molasses or other additives are not intended to remain in solution forever.

3. I feed formula based on Lucas. When mi metro says 1100ppm <I can add 125 ml and 250ml micro gh gh flowers. Then add 5 ml of ph up to concentrate. The will ppm and pH 5.5-5.6 1300-1350. Over the next week PMP falling to <1100, it raises the pH to 5.8, and repeat the cycle. The 125ml and 250ml eat plants mic flowers each week. Or you can take a week and a half if they are in a feeding phase of light. However, to add the micro and 8ml/gal 16ml/gal of flowers, the whole spectrum of nutrients needed by cannabis during the same time the clone of the crop is available. The fact that there is more variety of utes available to the plant does not mean that the plant will kill cooler at all, plants are selected in the minerals and nutrients uptake. Provide girls with a buffet breakfast consisting, lunch and dinner is the same as every meal to feed them separately. The girls know when it's time to eat every meal lol

Mmm, purple kush is me walking this morning.

I'm not good at numbering items apparently, but I refer to anyone to this site or this site if you're curious about my methods. I'm imitating Lucas in his rec. feeding schedules and methods of cultivation and girls are loving life.

cheers!
 

Raphael

Member
Today is day 61 of flower.

Have inspected the trichomes using 60x radio shack microscope ($8) and 13 of the tops were approaching 15% amber heads and so they were cut in order to let the lower buds mature further over this last week of flush. Plus, I was really busy and didn't have time to harvest it all.

Anyways,

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I will upload more pics tonight when the light goes back on and if I have time.

Thanks for looking
 
gorgeous buds man. looks like you yielded well. looks like it was so frosty the flash kind of got in the way haha. microscopes are a very good investment.

I used to do the 3 part and follow lucas formula but I do GH flora nova cause its pretty much lucas in a bottle, a little less work as you dont have to mix micro +v/f.
 

Raphael

Member
gorgeous buds man. looks like you yielded well. looks like it was so frosty the flash kind of got in the way haha. microscopes are a very good investment.

I used to do the 3 part and follow lucas formula but I do GH flora nova cause its pretty much lucas in a bottle, a little less work as you dont have to mix micro +v/f.

Thanks for the compliments, and the flash was my fault not the trichomes haha. I was holding the buds by the hanger and it wasn't a very good shot...

Anyways GH flora nova is sweet for sure I use coco for my moms though so with the gh micro and bloom the ratios go 6/9 due to the medium drying and concentrating the salts each day. I am switching to the flora nova soon though after these bottles go out...what did you mean by "+v/f" by the way?

Let me upload these pics...
 

Raphael

Member
I pulled them down on the 63rd day of flower and now after drying for a week and curing for a week the final dry weight is ~41.8oz, 1200g, or 2.6#. I'm happy but will be surprised if I don't hit 3 per 1000w as I only used 29 girls and vegged for 10 days. Cutting the veg time and doubling up on the girls to 60 per 1000w will get me that 3 per, I know it!

Thanks for looking :)
 

ITryToGrow

Member
Damn man! I'm jealous of those numbers! :yes:

My girls vegged for 7 weeks (from seed) and atm I feel like I'm lucky if I get 1000grams/35oz!
 
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