Alfalfa tea in flower
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I feed an alfalfa & kelp tea 1x per week through Week 4 in flower.
What problems are you concerned about?
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Stoned Crow
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I've never been afraid to feed my plants a little N during flower. I feed liquid seaweed throughout flower (foilar & soil soak), minus the last 5 to 10 days. Although, I don't subscribe to the "dead looking plant with big flowers" theory. I don't like starving my plants.....SC 
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5 gallons of water
1.5 cups alfalfa meal
1/4 cup kelp meal
I brew/aerate for 24-36 hours and apply.
The application of alfalfa tea in most mainstream gardening is to enhance flower and bud set. I'm not sure why it's held by some in the cannabis growing deal that it's a bad thing.
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vonforne
The alfalfa will not harm your plants this late in flower. It might prolong flowering but it will not harm them. Only if it was too strong and needed to be diluted just like any other time.
I like my plants to start to yellow about the last 3 weeks. Lower leaf loss is no big deal late in flower. It is just an indicator to me. The buds start to show finishing at this time also.
Nice CC. I really like to folair feed alfalfa in the first 4 weeks of a plants life. I make my own meal from bags I get at the local feed store here for little animals.
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I like my plants to start to yellow about the last 3 weeks. Lower leaf loss is no big deal late in flower. It is just an indicator to me. The buds start to show finishing at this time also.
Nice CC. I really like to folair feed alfalfa in the first 4 weeks of a plants life. I make my own meal from bags I get at the local feed store here for little animals.
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I just hit my girls 4 weeks in last night with an alfalfa,kelp,fish tea.
Dune
There are a lot of reasons why using alfalfa meal in a garden and one of those is because of the agent found in alfalfa known as 'triacontanol' which is a subject that you might find interesting.
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CC
There are a lot of reasons why using alfalfa meal in a garden and one of those is because of the agent found in alfalfa known as 'triacontanol' which is a subject that you might find interesting.
HTH
CC
Yeah CC ive read you guys going on about it time and time again. Currently i going through the forums and combining all scribblings by muddy, v, jay, CC (urs), Suby, CT, B1. the list goes one each of you a a gold mine of info. Im just here to put it all together.
Something i would really love from a organics guru is a basic model of what types of items are used during the 13 weeks process. That's what Ive been trying to do, but a overload of information has lead to moments of uncertainty such as with the recent tea. I dunno i feel its the only part that's not sitting right there for newbie organic heads to jump on the train unlike with synthetics where its clearly cut and paste. I understand its all about talking to your plants and knowing what they want. but i still think someone can think of a basic recipe that each chef can make taste a little different and still taste good
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Something i would really love from a organics guru is a basic model of what types of items are used during the 13 weeks process. That's what Ive been trying to do, but a overload of information has lead to moments of uncertainty such as with the recent tea. I dunno i feel its the only part that's not sitting right there for newbie organic heads to jump on the train unlike with synthetics where its clearly cut and paste. I understand its all about talking to your plants and knowing what they want. but i still think someone can think of a basic recipe that each chef can make taste a little different and still taste good
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vonforne
And I believe that it is most effective as a folair spray! But I have found that too much will cause stretching. Maybe that was just the strain but if you want t accelerate vegetative growth then folair with alfalfa combined with the recipes above.
Check out the thread `Feeding with Alfalfa` some asshole wrote it but it is still a good read.
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Stoned Crow
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Check out the thread `Feeding with Alfalfa` some asshole wrote it but it is still a good read.
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You can say that again........SC
EDIT: No need to search, here it is http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=60667&highlight=alfalfa
NUG-JUG
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yes please lol
Stoned Crow
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I'm not a guru, but i've watched & payed attention to those who I consider very good organic gardeners. The one thing they all have in common is they continually build their soil by using what is available, and they appreciate "old soil"...they are continually making their soil better.....SC
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I've noticed the same thing, as far as the stretching goes. At times it can be useful, like when trying to fill in a canopy. The combination of alfalfa amount, trimming lower growth and stem crushing gives you a lot of control.
I can't imagine not using the Alfalfa. One of you guys turned me onto it at OG years ago and I've used it ever since, not just with pot either. The shit can get compost really cooking too..
I'm sure that it reaches a point where it just can't get any better,and at that point it's just maintenance....like vehicle maintenance. I never measure anything anymore,I give estimates of quanity. When I add any new amendment after a run,the percentages and type of amendment depends on any deficiencies I may have noticed or not,or I go basically with the feel of the relationship I have built with the soil.
Do I feel the micro-herd is at a high population,or not? Do I the think the plants have consumed too much Nitrogen last run,or not?
I'm no scientist,I'm no anal "measure this at this exact quantity" kind of guy,and I'm not nearly as tuned in to the life forms that occupy the soil as MM or CT.
All I'm sure of is this stuff (soil) is alive,and it needs to be treated like it is alive and given the conditions and environment to function how it needs to.
Alfalfa teas give me that extra boost of immediately available nitrogen that the plant is showing me it wants...if it's in there and not being consumed,I just can't tell. But when I add an alfalfa tea,things green up in a couple days...so I ASSUME the Nitrogen source was depleted(processed to be made available) by the micro organisms.
I never add anything at a high level,this way I never over do it and I can better measure the results by the effect I get a few days later.
I'm always adding more topsoil and EWC when I remix. The things like alfalfa,gauno's,fish products,kelp,etc. are added at very small amounts.
It does seem that I'm always adding something that wasn't in there before like CC's mineral mix and CC's seed meal mix.
Next up is pumice to create more air space and give those micro organisms a place to hang out.
So maybe it does keep getting better,but it's a balanced "better"
I dunno..........
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vonforne
Alfalfa is considered a green even dry because of the high C\N ratio.
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vonforne
soil building. I love it. I am always been on a budget and get this and that as they come or when money grants it. So, my soil gets built over time. My newest thing is Bone meal mixed with dolomite lime...50\50. I also have a Horn meal and Bone meal also 50\50. They add in perfect to my program of soil building. My next thing is the items from CTguy...Humic acids and Sea Kelp his company carries.
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