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Is is me or do some growers in Cali actually not want pot legalised??

Yes4Prop215

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this debate kinda reminds me of healthcare. everyone crying for the feel good effects but they cant take one moment to take a look at exactly HOW the bill works and who benefits.


what we needs is decriminalization so that people stop going to jail for weed.

legalization is basically giving richard lee full reigns for legal pot in california.

He is pushing forward his agenda UNDER THE DISGUISE OF LEGALIZATION.

stop yelling and clamoring for the feel good "no one goes to jail" train of thought. just like all the liberals screaming for healthcare "everyone will be covered" YEAH BUT AT WHAT EXPENSE!!

THINK ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE....
 

♥Mo♥

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this debate kinda reminds me of healthcare. everyone crying for the feel good effects but they cant take one moment to take a look at exactly HOW the bill works and who benefits.


what we needs is decriminalization so that people stop going to jail for weed.

Your right it reminds me of kind of like when you buy a pound or two of weed for a great price and then your friend asks you to cut him a deal and you respond "oh I can't I have to make a ton of money myself". Why can't we all have a piece of the pie?

Take the article above for instance, the guy was making $400,000 a year. Why can't he lower his way of life to say $200,000 and let others in on the game?

People are always worried that someone else might make a buck too. Sad really.

If I grow good weed and you grow better, who are people going to come to for their weed? You! Step up your game and you will be fine.:dance013:
 

The Bulk

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Wouldnt it be like stock prices if it was legal?People could grow it and sell to the dipencrys at a fair/going rate/price at the time.Sorta like a farmer selling his corn or milk,would beat going to jail for this stupid law against Marijuana.
 

Yes4Prop215

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♥Mo♥;3453689 said:
Your right it reminds me of kind of like when you buy a pound or two of weed for a great price and then your friend asks you to cut him a deal and you respond "oh I can't I have to make a ton of money myself". Why can't we all have a piece of the pie?

Take the article above for instance, the guy was making $400,000 a year. Why can't he lower his way of life to say $200,000 and let others in on the game?

People are always worried that someone else might make a buck too. Sad really.

If I grow good weed and you grow better, who are people going to come to for their weed? You! Step up your game and you will be fine.:dance013:

i dont know about you buy i cut my friends close to cost deals on shit. and im not making 400k a year or even close to half that.

i know small timers paying their rent because they can sell 8ths for 50 to people without club cards. tons of regular folks, starving students, people in financial crisis, etc who are making a living off mary jane.

yeah theres a couple guys making big money, but they have lots of headaches trust me, their risks involves more revenue simple as that.
 

Rainman

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I dont care one way or another how the vote goes. Cali is flooded with more bad growers than good ones thats for sure. Richard Lee is simply being an Amercian by trying to control and profit from his chosen biz. Still an asshole! But how many businessmen do the same thing everyday? $100 ounces? Not my herb and not my cuts baby!! One last thing to stir the pot. One of the big tobacco companies, who shall remain nameless, just purchased over 1,000 acres of land just outside of Chico,Ca. Now what would a company that grows crops in the deep south(tobacco grows in just a few southern states)and is based in North Carolina be doing that for?
 

immaculate

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NO NO NO NO MOTHER FUCKERS! IT'S NOT "LET THE GROWER STEALING ILLEGAL POWER TAKE THE HIT SO TWO MORE PEOPLE CAN START GROWING BULLSHIT"....The grower stealing power is the fucking common man making his way. The electric grid is bullshit anyway. LET CHASE BANK TAKE THE HIT. LET THE FED TAKE THE HIT. LET BIG BIZ AND BIG GOV TAKE THE HIT. THEN THERED BE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE SOME....DUH..

You naive nincompoops don't realize that assholes like Richard will be funded & supported by BIG GOVT, will be funded by BIG BIZ will become BIG BIZ...this isn't about your best interest. this, again, is about the interest of the few. LOOK OUTSIDE THE BOX. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. WE'LL NEVER SEE TRUE CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY NOT BECAUSE OBAMA COULDN'T DELIVER BUT BECAUSE THE AVERAGE ASSHOLE IS TRAPPED, SCARED, DEPENDENT, INDOLENT.

YOU'RE BEING LIED TO! EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER BEEN TOLD IS A LIE! WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR SELF AND EVERYONE ELSE!!!!

VOTING AND WRITING BILLS AND LAWS IS NEVER GONNA BRING THE PEOPLE ON TOP....THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED FROM THE ONSET TO BENEFIT A FEW PEOPLE, NO MATTER WHAT BILLS PASS.

...ROCKEFELLERS FUNDED CIVIL RIGHTS AND WOMENS LIB....WAKE UP.....YOU ARE GIVING YOUR RIGHTS AWAY IF YOU VOTE TO LEGALIZE WEED...IT SOUNDS PARADOXICAL BUT IT IS A TRUISM...ITS SAD HOW MANY SLEEPERS THERE ARE..
 

Harvest

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I say let the black market crumble. You lazy fucks have ridden the gravy train long enough. Quit your bitchin and get a real job. If you think your ability to make quick cash is more important than ending the unjust suffering of thousands upon thousands of good people then you are just flat out wrong and are truly shit.
It's amazing you fucks have the audacity to say fuck personal liberties, fuck unjust prosecution, Fuck medical neccesity, fuck everyone else as long as I can still make a quick buck without a job.

You're an idiot. :tiphat:
 

Toyot4

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Who gives a shit if phillip morris gets involved and makes shitty weed. Mexico has been doing it for years and there is still plenty market for high grade. Everyone talks about big corporations coming in and producing a few strains and making everyone else get out of the market but i don't really understand how this could happen with what is currently available as seedstock across the world. Variety and genetics isnt going anywhere, it will stick around and new shit will be produced all the time just like it is now.

whats the big deal, man up and grow some better product or something, there is a market for everything if you put your brain to it.
 

immaculate

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Who gives a shit if phillip morris gets involved and makes shitty weed. Mexico has been doing it for years and there is still plenty market for high grade. Everyone talks about big corporations coming in and producing a few strains and making everyone else get out of the market but i don't really understand how this could happen with what is currently available as seedstock across the world. Variety and genetics isnt going anywhere, it will stick around and new shit will be produced all the time just like it is now.

whats the big deal, man up and grow some better product or something, there is a market for everything if you put your brain to it.

DUDE PLEASE TELL ME YOU AREN'T THAT BRAIN DEAD FROM ALL THAT KALLI KUSSHH BROOO....

Listen let me break it down for you in a few words: Beyond the social ramifications this will have in the short-term, where this is headed is that now that weed is legalized, research can be done on weed without taboo. Sure, that leaves room for independent firms to research. Where are they going to get money? Ultimately weed will be an extremely controlled substance and such a science that plants of a certain potency will only be allowed.
Carcinogens and other chemicals will be added to weed along with addictive chemicals and the "I told you so" movement will come from those opposed to smoking or doing anything fun in general.

Once the law is passed, all it will take is subsequent amendments to this law based on bullshit biased studies and findings, further DEPRIVING US CITIZENS OF RIGHTS...you have it all backward..thats all...

It's okay, it's a kind of a counter intuitive notion and you don't come across as that bright. Take your time.
 

immaculate

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And regular growers are simply being american by growing for profit to chase the american dream.

Amen.

Richard Lee is in cahoots with execs from RJ and Philip and Gov. officials as we speak..in fact, it's confirmed..read between the lines...

We live in a corporatocracy
 

immaculate

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Wouldn't that like... create a black market where huge profits could be made?

Not when every Hydro shop on the country is owned by 2 corporations and the new government issued id's track all of your purchases...oh, yeah, order your complete commericial hyrdoponic set up online from some store in europe...things will be so lax now that weed is legal....
 

immaculate

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I'm also having trouble understanding why the rest of America assumes that if Cali legalizes weed everyone else will follow. If that's the case, why hasn't every state Prop 215'd? You people are bogus.
 

Hammerhead

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There are other markets for Cannabis like Hemp. I can see a huge market for this. I just can not see any big corp taking on cannabis while it stays Illegal federally.
 

Toyot4

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DUDE PLEASE TELL ME YOU AREN'T THAT BRAIN DEAD FROM ALL THAT KALLI KUSSHH BROOO....

you don't come across as that bright. Take your time.

these statements prove your intelligence, very ignorant to the way business works in this country. look up the word entrepreneur and toss that around for a few hours and get back to me.

think past growing the plant and selling the product. if govt is involved and needs health inspectors to inspect these grow ops, hop on man, get a job. There are so many opportunities in marketing, packaging, transportation, etc that will open up when you take away a sector of the black market.

immaculate, are you from cali?
 
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immaculate

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Again, THIS WILL NOT CREATE A MARKET FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN TO MAKE MONEY IN. THIS WILL JUST MEAN MORE SHIT FOR YOU TO BUY FROM THE GODDAMNED CORPORATIONS. legalizing weed is the smartest thing the corporately owned federal government could do. All the bigwigs pockets fill up, the average citizen will be so distracted celebrating now that SOMEONE ALLOWS YOU A FREEDOM YOU ALREADY HAVE that he never sees the big picture. When will you people realize this?
 

immaculate

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these statements prove your intelligence, very ignorant to the way business works in this country. look up the word entrepreneur and toss that around for a few hours and get back to me.

think past growing the plant and selling the product. if govt is involved and needs health inspectors to inspect these grow ops, hop on man, get a job. There are so many opportunities in marketing, packaging, transportation that will open up when you take away a sector of the black market.

immaculate, are you from cali?

And this will lead to wage-slaves doing mediocre jobs. You know how they pack genetically fucked chickens into unsanitary conditions, they never see light, sleep in shit, and wage slaves (usually illegal) "inspect" and package and transport these chickens...apply same concept to this situation...it wont be average guys starting a company from scratch taking out a 800,000 dollar loan on "weed packaging" sorry bro we got companies for that already...

You are so mad trapped in the system you can't even see without it...smoke a bowl and think about that.
 
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