Neptune's Harvest?

[mad librettist]

ah, capt, I fear you are wrong.

the end of prohibition woud be the end of pot grown with very high input costs. Yes the price will take a serious nosedive after a brief period of mere reductions. That's my predictions

Some things a legit farmer could not afford or get in a post prohibition world:

expensive fertilizer blends
growing crops in a residential house (aside from the financial black hole that is owning a house, there will be code violations, and they will be enforced)
using electric lighting exclusively regardless of cost
turning a profit regardless of general economic conditions
the most generous ROI ever (return on investment)
tax free income
membership in the counter culture (after a brief honeymoon)
complete and total freedom in the inventing of new "strains" on the spot.
use of the word "strain". It's a variety people, not a strain!

seed companies will tank as well, due to competition from legit companies, who have the distribution, market penetration, and expertise already in place.

basically, the entire cannabis economy will lose the one factor that makes its bloated and inefficient structure possible: prohibition. Without that advantage, and in competition with mainstream companies already serving the role with other legal products, a great majority of cannabis pro's stand no chance.

we will likely see small boutique growers, with a higher price to match, but still the highest quality, the tastiest of the tasty - that is going to come from your own garden. Just like vegetables. But the vast majority of cannabis produced and consumed will likely come from philip morris.

and on and on.

 

[Dignan]

Man, I would LOVE to tangle with some of you on purely political issues, believe me... but I have to say that, outside of the political issue of marijuana criminalization being loosely relevant, politics doesn't belong in this thread or this forum. There's another forum at ICMag for that.

Peace-

Dig

 

[guest2012y]

Go do 5 years in prison for growing and then tell me how good prohibition is. Until then you really don't have a clue what it means. You can talk all day about how it plays a roll in the economy,but hang out in prison for 5 years and you'll whistle a different tune. Telling anybody who has done serious time that prohibition is okay....well......... besides the pure ignorance,is insulting.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Go do 5 years in prison for growing and then tell me how good prohibition is. Until then you really don't have a clue what it means. You can talk all day about how it plays a roll in the economy,but hang out in prison for 5 years and you'll whistle a different tune. Telling anybody who has done serious time that prohibition is okay....well......... besides the pure ignorance,is insulting.

I told the jailer at Orange County Jail during my one and only brush with the law 3 decades ago: "I could do 3 hours standing on my head"

"Keep mouthing off and you may get the chance to prove it, Asshole."

 

[sackoweed]

Ok i thought i would try and see if this thread got rid of the BS politics talk.. I can see it hasnt.. Why is there always a person that comes along and ruins a thread. especially with nonsense political jargen.. I think the person wanting to save the fish needs to throw on his/her bikini and get to saving the fishies.. If not lets kill, kill, kill.. and grow, grow, grow... ohh dont forget long john silvers for lunch.. Back to the topic, Has anybody figured out a schedule for neptunes? I didnt read back for the fact of seeing the Ranting about saving fishies. or whatever it was i didnt even read that crap.. I am in need of a few things i may just try and get me some neptunes and see whats up with the clones.. still contemplating.. Please post some info if ya have some. No more BS pulease.. peace n pufs..

sackO

 

[mad librettist]

Jesus dig, relax! It's an off topic thread on icmag. In other words, it's icmag.

Capt, I didn't say prohibition was good for eveyone or good for me. I said it was good for the growers.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Has anybody figured out a schedule for neptunes?

sackO

sackoweed

I did post this a page back or so.

At any rate, I use a similar product (i.e. fish hydrolysate) every 3rd watering which is about 1x per week.

I mix the fish enzyme as directed and add the appropriate amount of powdered seaweed extract.

Many professional organic farmers use the fish & kelp mixture as it's claimed to be an almost perfect fertilizer. At least in the field - that may not translate over to growing in a container.

HTH

CC

 

[Dignan]

I use Organic Gem and soluble seaweed every other watering at 1/4 strength on both products, which is about 2x per week.

I'm sure OG and Neptune's are nearly identical products, aren't they?

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Dignan

They're both fish hydrolysate products. In the case of Neptune's Harvest they use EM-1 to breakdown the slurry - as per their production manager.

I would imagine that Organic Gem uses some strains of Lactobacillus to accomplish the same thing.

There's a processing plant up in Anacortes, Washington which is a large fishing port north of Seattle. They process fish remains using enzymes and pack for 5 or 6 companies, including Down-To-Earth's Fish & Kelp liquid product. They also pack for Hi-Crop, et al.

Right now I'm paying $50.00 for 5 gallons of a product processed at the factory in Anacortes. No/low smell and the plants seem to love it. If that weren't available I'd probably opt for Organic Gem and then Neptune's Harvest mainly because of the shipping costs involved in moving their product from MA to the West Coast.

CC

 

[Dignan]

Awesome- thanks.

 

[Microbeman]

In the case of Neptune's Harvest they use EM-1 to breakdown the slurry - as per their production manager

Really!!? Holy crap batman. Can you PM me your contact for this. I was told differently.

As you know I get my hydrolysate from a Canadian company which uses enzymes. If I end up south of the border I might be importing it for resale. I am conflicted about the sustainability.

 

[Microbeman]

I actually have found the various directions this thread has taken, interesting and constructive. Maybe the name should be changed to The Politics of Fish and Economics

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Really!!? Holy crap batman. Can you PM me your contact for this. I was told differently.

As you know I get my hydrolysate from a Canadian company which uses enzymes. If I end up south of the border I might be importing it for resale. I am conflicted about the sustainability.

MM

I'll go through the materials I picked-up at a trade show. Neptune's Harvest had a nice packet and I took several notes as I talked with them for about 30 minutes or so.

RE: Fish Hydrolysate

I'd love to try out a product that you've tested. Are you familiar with KELPGROW out of Vancouver, B.C. by any chance? It's available at the larger wholesale nursery suppliers and gave it a couple of looks.

Just curious.

CC

 

[sackoweed]

nice thanx for the info clack.. I need to go back and look for that. I just didnt want to read all the BS from the Mad professor.. i will seek and find.. I want to add fish to my gurls diet, I had an old hippie that all he fed was fish products his puffs used to bust my lungs expansion levels were hgih. Do any of you notice that? peace n pufs..

sackO

 

[mad librettist]

nice thanx for the info clack.. I need to go back and look for that. I just didnt want to read all the BS from the Mad professor.. i will seek and find.. I want to add fish to my gurls diet, I had an old hippie that all he fed was fish products his puffs used to bust my lungs expansion levels were hgih. Do any of you notice that? peace n pufs..

sackO

no, you should read it, and replace the shit covering your ocular cavities, as it is obviously clouding your vision, making reasonable things look like BS. Maybe you disagree or don't care, but it isn't BS. Since you brought it up though, instead of just ignoring it, you owe me an explanation. Unless you are just expressing frustration and have nothing substantive to say...

or maybe it's all the mercury? get off those ocean fish.


This is the organic soil forum. If advocacy bothers you, why are you here? The regular soil guys will be glad to tell you not to worry about where your inputs come from. But here, you are likely to find the occasional guy who got into organics before it was cool. Those guys started with the notion of sustainability, not popularity. Don't like it? No problem. If you speak out for sustainability, derision always hits you.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

I just didnt want to read all the BS from the Mad professor...

sackO

Yes - some things really are eternal aren't they?

CC

 

[mad librettist]

indeed clack.

your love for me is a good example. at first i thought it was infatuation.

 

[Microbeman]

MM

I'll go through the materials I picked-up at a trade show. Neptune's Harvest had a nice packet and I took several notes as I talked with them for about 30 minutes or so.

RE: Fish Hydrolysate

I'd love to try out a product that you've tested. Are you familiar with KELPGROW out of Vancouver, B.C. by any chance? It's available at the larger wholesale nursery suppliers and gave it a couple of looks.

Just curious.

CC

I've never tried this but have eaten lots of this kelp when living at Haida Gwaii. It floats in enormous patches in the ocean. We find some that has herring eggs laid on the large flat leaves, slice the leaf off and fry them up eggs and all. Poor man's caviar!

 

[guest2012y]

I actually have found the various directions this thread has taken, interesting and constructive. Maybe the name should be changed to The Politics of Fish and Economics

Good idea! What ever happened to the OP? Must have scared him off with the rants.

 

[Dignan]

Talking about the politics of fish products isn't off-topic, nor is the politics of decriminalization... I was referring to the shit about Corporatocracy Team A vs. Corporatocracy Team B, i.e. the wealthy elite running the White House currently vs. the wealthy elite sore losers who ran the White House for the previous 8 years.

However, I realize I should have stayed out of it. I ain't the ICMag Police!

Dig