making tinctures

[Nickog]

I started playing around with making tinctures a few months ago. I tried cold and warm methods, alcohol and glycrine, buds, trim, and keif, and not one does anything other then make me hungry!
I bought a pocket microscope and it looks like the trim soaked in alcohol, (100 proof), still has lots of tricomes on it.
Does anyone have any good experience with making a tincture that really works?
Does anyone know if the "leaf spikes" have THC in them?
Thanks!

 

[reckon]

if you use an indica or indica heavy hybrid for your tintcure, or just a strain with fairly high CBD, you'll get the sleepy munchies after dosing.

I like to use sativas for all my ingested cannabis, but for SMOKING I prefer heavy indicas

get some high THC sativa like trainwreck, or chem dog D, and THEN make a tincture

I like the warm alcohol>let it sit for a month> strain, version personally

 

[Gray Wolf]

I started playing around with making tinctures a few months ago. I tried cold and warm methods, alcohol and glycrine, buds, trim, and keif, and not one does anything other then make me hungry!
I bought a pocket microscope and it looks like the trim soaked in alcohol, (100 proof), still has lots of tricomes on it.
Does anyone have any good experience with making a tincture that really works?
Does anyone know if the "leaf spikes" have THC in them?
Thanks!

Yes on both questions.

If you are going to make green dragon by cold soaking, you will get better results with 190 proof.

The mixture will be tastier and have less wax, water, vegetable oil, water solubles, etc in it if you will use quick wash techniques.

If you are going to do a long soak, hot alcohol works better and tastes less greeeeeeeeeeen. I use three 30 minutes boils with fresh alcohol and then reduce it down by distillation

When you evaporate off the ethanol, just leave enough in to keep it barely flowing.

GW

 

[Nickog]

Thanks to both answers. If I cook 54 gm trim in 1 lb butter in a crock pot for 8-12 hours, 1/4 teaspoon of butter puts me in another world for a total of 8 hours. I just can't seem to get the same effect in a tincture! I want to make the kind of tincture that gives you a "Budda like trance" with a few drops under the tongue. Any help is appreciated! I can't afford to keep making experiments that don't work!

 

[Greensleeves]

I'd say a month is *far* too long to let sit, you're getting more chlorophyll than anything at that point

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Ive talked to people that have made simular tunctures using different herbs.And they usually use the highest grain alcohal they can get and they usually let it sit for atleast a month picking up and shaking ever so often.Then Im sure you guys know the rest.

Ive never did this myself.Just passing on what ive reed/heard so take anything that dont sound right with a grain of salt.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Thanks to both answers. If I cook 54 gm trim in 1 lb butter in a crock pot for 8-12 hours, 1/4 teaspoon of butter puts me in another world for a total of 8 hours. I just can't seem to get the same effect in a tincture! I want to make the kind of tincture that gives you a "Budda like trance" with a few drops under the tongue. Any help is appreciated! I can't afford to keep making experiments that don't work!

I use the cannabis oil as the menstruum and add just enough other stuff in it make it flow through a dropper and taste better sublingually.

It takes 3 drops for high tolerance patients and about 1 drop for a low tolerance patient. You might check this cannabis resin category under Holy Shit for the recipe if you are interested.

The recipe calls for BHO, but alcohol extracts also work.

GW

 

[headband 707]

Put up a whole thing on how to make Tinture by Gray Wolf LOL LOL LOL then looked and seen he had already answered the thread LOL of course he did lol peace out Gray Wolf .. Headband707

 

[Blckbrd]

I have made some pretty wicked green dragon where a tablespoon will have you tripping. A key is heating the mixture without vaporizing the thc to activate the cannaboids. Without the exact recipe in front of me, it goes something like this:

1) take a quantity of bud (1/8, 1/2, 1 oz .. whatever), and grind it up - a coffee bean chopper works well.
2) evenly and thinly spread the ground bud on a piece of tin foil. fold the edges so it is more rigid & so none spills off.
3) heat the ground bud on the foil in your oven for @10 mins at 200 deg F. It is done when it starts to smoke and the grinds turn brown. The smoke is the plant material ... thc does not vaporize at this temp.
4) in a water bath (i.e. one pot inside a larger pot filled with water), pour into the smaller pot the grinds and then pour in everclear, grain, or some other 190 proof alcohol ... enough to immerse all the grinds and then a little bit more because it will evaporate off.
5) by heating the water in the larger pot, raise the temperature of the grinds/alcohol to 160 deg F and keep it there for 20 mins.
6) after the 20 mins, strain/crush/press all the remaining liquid out of the grinds. Use a garlic press or something like that to get all the liquid out ... every drop is worth the effort.

What you have left will be a nasty smelling liquid that looks green or ideally more brown if you heated it right in the oven. Its potency is INSANE!! One tablespoon is more than enough. I recently made a slight dosage error and had closer to 1/2 shot with a friend who had never tried marijuana before. Trippin our balls off!!!

You can mix the proper dose in a shot glass with soda, flavored alcohol, or whatever to make it slide down better.

BTW, very easy to travel with ... flies under security radar & is much fun!

For the "few drops under the tongue" effect, just use less alcohol ... the concoction will be more concentrated & potent.

here's a link to the recipe ... i can't claim it as mine, but i will vouch for its effectiveness!
http://boards.cannabis.com/concentrates/82380-definitive-green-dragon-revised-updated-combined.html

 

[Nickog]

Trying to perfect tincturess

Trying to perfect tincturess

I use the cannabis oil as the menstruum and add just enough other stuff in it make it flow through a dropper and taste better sublingually.

It takes 3 drops for high tolerance patients and about 1 drop for a low tolerance patient. You might check this cannabis resin category under Holy Shit for the recipe if you are interested.

The recipe calls for BHO, but alcohol extracts also work.

GW

What do you mix with it, alcohol or glycrine? Do you mix it at a 1:1 ratio or what? I made my oil with Isopropyl alcohol, Since it basically evaporated away, is it safe to injest?

 

[LunaShadow]

If your iso oil is solid or like tar you have most likely purged away most of the iso so could eat it, if it's still runny you need to evaporate more iso.

If you are going to eat your oil you could combine it with a fat for good absorption. Get a spoon and put a chunk of butter in it, put your lump of oil in the spoon sprinkle on some sugar and heat the bottom of the spoon till the butter and oil melts and fizzes. Then either eat that or put it in a yoghurt or something.

Alternatively, you could mix it with ethanol so it's like a tincture and either drink it or absorb it sublingually under your tongue.

I've never tried a tincture but have tried the yoghurt many many times.

I'll have to try Blckbrd's tincture recipe. It sounds very verrry nice.

 

[gongageek]

While not exactly a tincture have you reviewed the method that is described at www.phoenixtears.ca - this looks to be a very well tested method.

 

[Nickog]

Rick Simpson Oil

Rick Simpson Oil

While not exactly a tincture have you reviewed the method that is described at www.phoenixtears.ca - this looks to be a very well tested method.

I did see the movie on it. Sounds very interesting. He uses 1 pound of bud, but it looks like it is trim and bud mixed. His yield is 4 oz from a pound. I don't want to use good bud, just my trim, bit I think I will try it as soon as I have a pound of trim. I would actually like to try it on a person who the medical community has given up on! I think it would be great to document someone being "cured".

 

[Gray Wolf]

What do you mix with it, alcohol or glycrine? Do you mix it at a 1:1 ratio or what? I made my oil with Isopropyl alcohol, Since it basically evaporated away, is it safe to injest?

Neither. The whole recipe is listed in this section under Holy Shit, but basically it goes as follows:

10 gm honey oil
3 gm virgin coconut oil
.7 gm cinnamon bark oil
.7 gm cinnamon leaf oil
.5 gm liquid gum myrrh.
1 gm concentrated cinnamon candy flavoring oil.

If you properly purged your iso it should be safe to ingest.

GW

 

[Nickog]

Neither. The whole recipe is listed in this section under Holy Shit, but basically it goes as follows:

10 gm honey oil
3 gm virgin coconut oil
.7 gm cinnamon bark oil
.7 gm cinnamon leaf oil
.5 gm liquid gum myrrh.
1 gm concentrated cinnamon candy flavoring oil.

If you properly purged your iso it should be safe to ingest.

GW

I searched and finally got all the things necessary for the HIO. My question is that after purging the ISO oil several time, it is so very thick, that I am not sure if it will mix with the other things. Should I do anything else with the oil before trying to mix this up?

 

[Haps]

Warming it should do.

 

[Rox]

I am in the Uk, whats the best stuff to use to make a tincture?

 

[onegreenday]

Wernard in "Treating Yourself"

Wernard in "Treating Yourself"

http://www.treatingyourself.com/pdf/issue21.pdf

Page 60 starts the lesson in tinctures & oil mix.

 

[Nickog]

http://www.treatingyourself.com/pdf/issue21.pdf

Page 60 starts the lesson in tinctures & oil mix.

I can't seem to download the story. I keep getting an error message. Could be my computor. Could you paste the story?

 

[Herbalista]

Ummmm...anyone ever think of just adding dry bubble {powder,not pressed},to a white alcohol{ie:say VODKA!}....shake it up and get to experimenting on one self? Really,who likes the taste of chlorophyll{and all the other undesirable flavors}?...Someone with a taste disorder? PUKE!!....Also remember,if you consume too much THC orally,stay away from life threatening activities{like driving}.It's very easy to overdose on oral ingestion;how ever, let's thank "Jah" that "O.D.'ing" on thc,is not like "O.D.'ing" on ....say... Opiates!