Pruning for Lil Trees..Yes or No

[DonkDBZ]

Its real easy. (I am state certified electrician).

You will need the correct 240v breaker for your panel.
If no open spaces will need a Tandem Breaker
A plug tester and a 240v plug

Remember safety 1st if your are uneasy with electrical get help. Wear gloves and face shield.

You have to go to your panel and figure out which breaker the outlet you want to be 240 is on. Turn off. Get a plug tester and see what else turned off. Anything that is off and on the same circuit will be 240v too. Mark EVERYTHING on the circuit. Cover em or take the outlets out and put blank plates and safe off the wires.


Now go back to your panel TURN OFF YOUR MAIN if you are unexperienced
and pull the wire from the breaker.
Take the neutral(white wire) for that circuit and pull it from the bus bar.
Install the new breaker in open space if available. If not you will need you will need a tandom breaker like http://www.lowes.com/pd_7087-1318-MP22020_4294821906+4294965047+4294820081_4294937087?productId=3182941&pl=1&currentURL=/pl_Tandem_4294821906%204294965047%204294820081_4294937087_
Most likely you will need a 15/20-20/15 or 20/20-20-/20
So pull out the old breaker and turn off and pull wire from breaker below. Then install new Tandom in the space. Land the wire from the breaker you pulled to make space and land and the single pole part of the new breaker. Take the Hot and Neutral from and land those on the 2 pole part. Then before you turn it on take the 120v plug off and replace with the new 240 volt plug. Now you can close your panel up and turn everything back on.

Remember if the wire is 14gauge no more then 2800 watts on a your 240v circuit and 3800watts on 12 gauge. That is 80% load of what the wire is rated for.

Hope you get how to do it. Read some basic home wiring books and its easy. I should take some pic's.

 

[solarz]

thanks bro...it was very "followable". I'm going to be switching a dedicated 20amp circuit, with only one plate/plug in for it. I'll have to take a trip to lowes and get that tandem breaker. The only thing i need to do is get up in the attic and see what type of wires the electricians used for the dedicated circuit installs. Thanks again bro.

solarz

 

[DonkDBZ]

Oh yeah almost forgot if the circuit is on 12/3 (black/red/white/ground) The neutral is shared and you cannot swap.

Found tables at lowes but they are not strong like the one I have. I will just make my own stands out of 2x4's

 

[frikn squirrel]

thanks for that quick tek

 

[Okiedope]

Why no reflectors?

strange question considering the forum

donk, i dig the setup. going to be keeping an eye on this one. a few questions... what are the dimensions of your bloom room? what size containers are you using?

 

[DonkDBZ]

I have to tear down my 5x5 in a couple days. I pulled all my C-99 on 420. Gonna be pulling the rest in these up coming days.

Looking at how to optimize my space. Room is 11' by 12'. Probable gonna make a 11x7 flower room. so I have room for storage. Will be transplanting from the 3 gallon Coco's to 10gallon soon. Bloom layout will be different then veg.

 

[F_T_P!]

Looks great, I want to try this with 5 gallon coco Hempy's.

Only prune a few of the lower branches and useless growth. In vertical those lowers can yield some decent weight.

6+ #'s easy

 

[*mistress*]

climbing the tree...

climbing the tree...

Going for my 1st tree style grow. Gonna be running 7 600watters

the layout
x=plant
o=light

xoxox
oxoxo
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so 8 plants 2 will get get light on all sides 2 on 3 sides and the other 4 on 2 sides.
Right now girls are around 16" tall
Using 2 600hps and 2 400cmh. would prefer 4 cmh but veg would be pretty much done by he time I got em

So to hit 6lbs+ I figure need to veg em close to 3 feet tall. So heres my questions

1- Pruneing lower shooters to get em taller faster any negative impact on yield?

2- Topping em when around 30 or so inches tall would this help increase yield?

...

will be final layout. just waiting on my current run to finish to redo flower room Krusty/*** layout.

krusty was 1 teacher of *mistress*, many moon ago
m*d is kbs/kfb system, re-named, but still it was krusty & no-one that brough tech to boards, syk, hgc, dhf, etc that did +/- on what is required... though acry did just as good, or better, w/ just a big container of coco, watered daily...

6*450=2700
2700/8=337.5
337.5/28=12.05 per plant - dry...

should be doable, w/ enough veg tyme...
veg 24/0, under same lights. 18/6 gives 42> hrs of lyght in same 7-day period. plant needs no dark in veg...

maybe, stake/support them NOW, as when tree room gets full, maintenanace become labor... not to snap oof 4ft branches, bending this/that in jungle of foliage... stake, tomato cage, yoyos, 14 guage wire, etc...

maybe veg them until @ least 40-45" wide,
if dont top/prune, etc, can get 3-4 harvests from just 1 plant... as long as know stain & when it finish. not need to top, etc. the plant should develop on own w/ enough light...

@ day 56-60, can take all tops, & remove inner fan leaves, @ day 65, take secondary tops, that may have been shaded while growing, but get tyme to develop as tops after 1st gleaning... depending on cut, can do this 3-4 tymes... very impractical to try harvest entire 6x6x6 plant, as lower 1/3 younger than top 2/3...

but... if go to 70-75 days, or so, can turn entire plant into canopy & all fruit, get change to get solid - even lower 1/4...

@ ~wk 9 or so, plant maybe 5x5x5+, after 1st top-taking, get to be 4x4x4, another 5-7 days, & turn plant back int0 3x3x3 from where it started flowering... but, this is most juvenile section, that get tyme to fully mature... other-wise, that just turn into popcorn.

nice concept... would prefer 1ks to 6oo's, but 7 should get them big enough...

1 thing found is that keeping the ph slightly lower = +! maybe input @ 5.0-5.5... this keep them healthier longer, which permit gardener to not rush w/ the trees... not rushing key variable...

so many want result yesteryear... not the case w/ trees....
find a superior cut, mono-crop it over & over & over.... then can mng a tree grow w/ slightly longer schedule...

minimum 1 cubic yard of plant mass/canopy - excluding stem - before even consider flower... then, another wk, under 24/0-22/2, just to make sure...

consider 1/5 wet from dry... so to reach ~337 per plant, try for 1685 wet... which ~3.7# wet... maybe better #'s w/ c02...

no pruning needed, except maybe for removal of excessive fan leaves... @ certain stages & gradually, not all @ once...
maybe some @ wk 4, @ wk 7, etc.. that it, just to allow lyght into innard of plant, to make all those flowers sites turn into ripe tomatoes of edible potions size other-wise IT is possible to have large tree, w/ not as much fruit as could have been - if dont train, thin & prune right... maybe get rid of sucker shoots as well!

maybe, ran few trees/tree gardnens in imagination
any q's, feel free...

 

[frikn squirrel]

mistress -

That was awesome, thank you. I have a few tree grows under my belt but I have never gotten the yields I have hoped for because I have not mastered my tree pruning technique. Thank you. I'm intregued that you don't do much pruning. In the past I have topped early and supercropped to try to get 4 main stems that I could pull apart as the plant grows. The plants get real bushy but I suspect they get TOO bushy because anything that isn't on the outside of the plant is underdeveloped.

 

[DonkDBZ]

The results of my FIM attempt



almost 2 feet tall now. I want em to hit 30-36inches before I flip