Their not the same thing. The workhorse 8 can power 6 lamps, the workhorse 7 can only power 4.
Why you should make the switch from spirals to tubes(PL-L
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thehappyguy
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i was just confused i guess, the website has them both rated @ the same 220w voltage. regardless it doesn't matter cause im only gonna run 4 bulbs max, probably 3 bulbs.
Yea, knna hopes to have lights ready before summer. These will integrate well with pll's.
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Thanks a lot and thanks bigballin for the info. Secondtry is a knowledgeable guy.Edit: Superpedro found a great blue pl-l a while back but I think he couldn't find any to buy. If I remember right, it was even more impressive than that philips blue one.
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detoneSmoker
someone should post a picture guide on how to install PLL's from start to finish on here.
The only problem is that it varies from ballast to ballast. My howards ballast is different my my workhorse. Wiring the sockets is also different depending upon the ballast some require you join the wires before, others dont.
i'd like to see knna's lights that your talking about and i wouldnt mind finding that blue bulbs for a pl-l. It would be amazing if they could us that technology for the t5 biax so we could mix the color spectrum by starting with a base say 5k and adding more red. Maybe like LED's but probably a broader spectrum with lower peaks per watt
i'd like to see knna's lights that your talking about and i wouldnt mind finding that blue bulbs for a pl-l. It would be amazing if they could us that technology for the t5 biax so we could mix the color spectrum by starting with a base say 5k and adding more red. Maybe like LED's but probably a broader spectrum with lower peaks per watt
look like some very cool bulbs especially for our application. Just wish they made them in PL-L, i need a smaller sized bulb with a decent SPD.
lol don't I know it! knowing the g per watt would likely make me cry. I'm just not going to weigh it. and remember, I'm pulling way more than 475 from the wall.
my wife loves to work by the light of my cab with the lid off. With pll she would probably like it even more.. LED not so much.
ML, you really should make the switch especially if your still running the same cab. I'm still amazed at how cool and clear these lights are over spirals. eEven distribution of light is a great thing because it makes the light seem very clear and even. I've got to admit i've been doing everything by this new cab. Before the light was only good enough to work right by the spiral, these bulbs really seem to put off much better output. I'll snap some pics when my plants look good enough to snap them. These 5000k PL-L's dont even compare to the 5k spirals.
BTW- I like your thought process, reminds me of myself. I dont like it therefore i dont do it.
BTW- I like your thought process, reminds me of myself. I dont like it therefore i dont do it.
I found out what Pedro was talking about, sorry it was Narva not Hagen. He posted the outputs
I realize the benefits of an actinic bulb(460nm). Its pretty much the same as running blue LED's. Those red bulbs really dont do justice. maybe if we ran actinic bulbs with red LED's we would be seeing the max benefit. Each day that passes by i think more and more of building an LED setup. I would just be using red ones anyways.
ok. I have finally gotten my four 12" 24w 3000k PLLs in the mail.
I'm using two scavenged ballasts which had been in commercial tracklighting.
As far as I understand it, I need to get a grounded cable and wire the black and white wires to it and then attach a third cable to the ground on the cable.
Can I just use a standard PC power cable and cut the female end off and strip it and wire it up that way?
Also, I'm kinda thinking I'll mount all 4 of these lights vertically in my current cab:
So I was wanting an opinion. If you were going to do this vertically (i already have 252w of coiled CFL at the top) would you put all four roughly in the CENTER of the cab or would you put one in each corner or what?
Please save me from electrocution.
(I have a little fan I was gonna mount directly beneath the 4 plls in the center of the cab, allowing me to grow in a square donut shape all around them.)
I'm using two scavenged ballasts which had been in commercial tracklighting.
As far as I understand it, I need to get a grounded cable and wire the black and white wires to it and then attach a third cable to the ground on the cable.
Can I just use a standard PC power cable and cut the female end off and strip it and wire it up that way?
Also, I'm kinda thinking I'll mount all 4 of these lights vertically in my current cab:
So I was wanting an opinion. If you were going to do this vertically (i already have 252w of coiled CFL at the top) would you put all four roughly in the CENTER of the cab or would you put one in each corner or what?
Please save me from electrocution.
(I have a little fan I was gonna mount directly beneath the 4 plls in the center of the cab, allowing me to grow in a square donut shape all around them.)
thehappyguy
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well going at it from a pure light-distribution angle, it would make more sense to put them in the corners. if you think about it, your cfls are giving out a semi-sphere of light downwards that tapers in the corners, which is where your new bulbs would step in. it's a pity you don't have 5; you could put one in each corner and one in the middle and just have growth everywhere.
mounting all 4 in the middle wouldn't be wise IMO, it would be like putting more coiled CFLs in there since so much light would be bouncing around in the middle of the 4 bulbs. if you put a reflector of some sort in there, it would be cool though.
mounting all 4 in the middle wouldn't be wise IMO, it would be like putting more coiled CFLs in there since so much light would be bouncing around in the middle of the 4 bulbs. if you put a reflector of some sort in there, it would be cool though.
That is how I've always set up my CFL's, one in each corner with one or more in the middle, though PLL's eliminate the need for such a set up as they evenly distribute light. Yet, I find myself putting CFL's in the corners as supplementary lighting anyway, for as long as temps are a non-issue, then the more light the better (in most situations) regardless of type.
TenToesTall
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I recommend the 115 w spirals at 1000bulbs.com. Theyre either 105w or 115. Im sure the higher wattage is even better, but I have no experience with these. Hang a few of these fuckers vertically and your good.
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Tilt
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ok. I have finally gotten my four 12" 24w 3000k PLLs in the mail.
I'm using two scavenged ballasts which had been in commercial tracklighting.
As far as I understand it, I need to get a grounded cable and wire the black and white wires to it and then attach a third cable to the ground on the cable.
Can I just use a standard PC power cable and cut the female end off and strip it and wire it up that way?
Also, I'm kinda thinking I'll mount all 4 of these lights vertically in my current cab:
So I was wanting an opinion. If you were going to do this vertically (i already have 252w of coiled CFL at the top) would you put all four roughly in the CENTER of the cab or would you put one in each corner or what?
Please save me from electrocution.
(I have a little fan I was gonna mount directly beneath the 4 plls in the center of the cab, allowing me to grow in a square donut shape all around them.)
vertical has my vote. Looking at your plug. The left prong is the hot wire for cord (ie black wire) the right prong is the neutral (ie white wire) bottom prong is ground wire ( green or bare wire)
Im a sparky.
Grounding that ballast is easy. It either has a push in connection point our you attach the wire to the metal tab of the ballast frame.
grounding provides two functions 1. it is a saftey feature by creating a short if the hot voltage comes in contact with the frame tripping the breaker.
2. it reduces any emf the ballast receives or transmits.
