$$$Air Pots and Smart Pots Club$$$

[xcrispi]

Urkle ,
Air Pots rock , you and I both know it .
I'm suprised Mistress hasn't been trough yet - she usually bashes on Air pots as well . lol

I've gotten the same yields , size plants in a 3.4 gallon airpot as I have a 6 gallon nursery pot . The root system in these things are so fiberous its crazy - nute uptake cant help but be improved I'd bet . The micro herd just booms from all the O2 . Yep smart pots do the same thing - but smartpots sit in their own runoff where as air pots don't due to the recessed bottoms = a big plus in my opinion - super easy to flush, esp in a flood table .

I've had some of the same ideas as a few other posters as well - Evlme2 and Marquis both .

As soon as this wretched promix is gone we have a case of 24 mixed bricks of coir , 24 - 3.4 gallon air pots in a 4x8 flood table , drip irrigation system minus the dripper part , and 3000w hps .

Doing a promix grow this way currently w/ great results 12 plants in 3.4 gallon pots barely fit in a 4 x 8 table in 3rd week of bloom .

Peace all
Crispi

 

[Thundurkel]

I apologize if I am being a dufus, but I'm just not getting why the air pot wouldn't work on a flood and drain table? To me, it seems like the smart pot would work better than the air pot since it has real holes so it would drain the water out faster (like the big netpots I use on my E&F table).

I think you have things backwards buddy but that's ok cuz that's exactly why I made this lil club/thread so we all can learn and increase yield and quality in our buds!

The Smart Pot is this one

The Air Pot is this one

Now the reason you can't use Air Pots in a E&F system is due to the holes cuz the tables aren't deep enough to flood them completely and you don't get the results you would in a drip system or just hand watering from the top.. I've never done anything but hand water with them so I can't say for sure but that's what I was told from TheRealDeal who was told by the Rep for the company he spoke to at a hydro shop...

 

[Noobian]

Wish I could do the air pots but our local hydro only has smart pots...if they ever get the air pots in though will be trying those out!

 

[Thundurkel]

Urkle ,
Air Pots rock , you and I both know it .
I'm suprised Mistress hasn't been trough yet - she usually bashes on Air pots as well . lol

I've gotten the same yields , size plants in a 3.4 gallon airpot as I have a 6 gallon nursery pot . The root system in these things are so fiberous its crazy - nute uptake cant help but be improved I'd bet . The micro herd just booms from all the O2 . Yep smart pots do the same thing - but smartpots sit in their own runoff where as air pots don't due to the recessed bottoms = a big plus in my opinion - super easy to flush, esp in a flood table .

I've had some of the same ideas as a few other posters as well - Evlme2 and Marquis both .

As soon as this wretched promix is gone we have a case of 24 mixed bricks of coir , 24 - 3.4 gallon air pots in a 4x8 flood table , drip irrigation system minus the dripper part , and 3000w hps .

Doing a promix grow this way currently w/ great results 12 plants in 3.4 gallon pots barely fit in a 4 x 8 table in 3rd week of bloom .

Peace all
Crispi

Thanks for sharing your info with everybody I think a lot of people are going to enjoy better buds from all of the contributions from users so far how can you not? Even if you just go off a average of those against and those super excited over the results they got it's easy to see the whole air pruning technique I think no matter the pot brand is the way to go . That MicroKote stuff looks cool for those not wanting to replace their pots ect but the only thing I think that is lacking with that way of root pruning is yea it's gonna be better than the pot by itself and give more fibrous root system I don't see a increase in oxygen like Air Pots and Smart Pots. But like I said still pretty cool for those on a budget

 

[Thundurkel]

Wish I could do the air pots but our local hydro only has smart pots...if they ever get the air pots in though will be trying those out!

Have you requested them? Not sure how much your shop cares about what customer's want but I got the whole Cutting Edge Solutions line going on the shelf in mine just from how excited I've been about the results and quality I've gotten with it. Pretty much anything I ask dude to get or think would do good there he's ordering so I'm sure you could get them to order some for you and then they will catch on in your area when people see how cool they are and how much longer they will last compared to the Smart Pots. Plus I like the fact they are made out of recycled materials...

 

[Lazyman]

I did ebb and flood tables with 2 gallon smartpots, worked great! The pots keep the medium in and let water drain out, I flooded to about 4-5inches up on the pots and let them sit for about ten minutes full, they wick well with soil or coco.

 

[GrnMtnGrwr]

I did ebb and flood tables with 2 gallon smartpots, worked great! The pots keep the medium in and let water drain out, I flooded to about 4-5inches up on the pots and let them sit for about ten minutes full, they wick well with soil or coco.

I don't see why you couldn't do E&F with Air Pots if you really wanted. Sure, you'd have an inch or so at the bottom where there's no contact, but with 4-5 inches flood you'd still get 3-4 inches of coco soaked, and like you said, coco wicks very well. I'm not saying it's gonna be the best way to grow, but I doubt that you can't do it.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Of course it can be done if you really wanted, the only reason it makes sense to me is because of this- If you are doing a flood and drain than your plants soak the solution from the bottom pushing the air upwards and out of the top of the pot, this is what is helping the solution soak upwards.

so if you have air pots which are covered in holes, than the air pressure which helps pull the solution upwards in a flood and drain table will be far less than that of a pot without holes. True, I havent tried myself but that is why it makes sense to me. hopefully I explained it as least confusing as possible and that this helps you understand better.


edit- ok. never mind. I reread that. i see you understand the prosess just think the coco can soak it up. maybe someone can tell us...

 

[GET MO]

I like the smart pots but havent noticed any difference with the air pots, they seem to take too much water and really dont seem worth it. Smart pots tho I can actually see them working and have gotten drastic yields with them.

 

[C21H30O2]

I think getting the most out of air pots would depend much on how they are used. If you put them in a sog they probably wont change much. My theory: use them in veg then transplant in to a large regular pot for flowering. I bought two 1 gallon air pots that I will veg blue dream in. once the blue dream are about 2 feet I will transplant into a 5 gallon and flower. I will do this next to two regular pots filled with blue dream. watering everyday without a drip feed sounds like a bitch and I believe the more stable enviornment during flowering will help with yield and vigor.

 

[Thundurkel]

Really GETMO? That's interesting to hear so from regular to Air Pot no diff but you can see it with Smart Pots huh? My experience is backwards haha

 

[Thundurkel]

I think getting the most out of air pots would depend much on how they are used. If you put them in a sog they probably wont change much. My theory: use them in veg then transplant in to a large regular pot for flowering. I bought two 1 gallon air pots that I will veg blue dream in. once the blue dream are about 2 feet I will transplant into a 5 gallon and flower. I will do this next to two regular pots filled with blue dream. watering everyday without a drip feed sounds like a bitch and I believe the more stable enviornment during flowering will help with yield and vigor.

You should transplant them into 5gal Air Pots and do those next to the regular ones I think you see a bit of a difference with the way you said but they roots are going to go from air pruning to circling around the pot so I don't see it helping very much...

 

[FC89]

hey guys, I transplanted my female RRF (autoflower) into an airpot, here is a picture.

Its a 2 Gallon pot,and I'm using FFOF soil. Not sure if anyone has ever tried putting an autoflower in an airpot, but I'm hoping that it may yield more? If anything I heard online that it makes it harder for one to overwater, and this being my first grow is a great help. I looked at these things and just were amazed when watching the videos. Ill keep you guys posted on how this one goes, I know it looks kind of sad right now being droopy but I'm hoping that the transplant will perk her right up!

 

[Thundurkel]

Keep us posted FC and good luck, try coco out sometime and you'll love it more than soil I think at least I did when I switched from FFOF..

 

[FC89]

yeah, I'll probably switching methods in the near future. For a first run though thought I would go with soil, I'll keep you guys posted though!

 

[Pineydoobey]

I like these air pots a lot. They seem to do a great job at growing happy healthy plants and in my opinion they look cool as hell.

I don't really care for the smart pots though. They don't seem like they would be as effective and they look messy.

Anyways I have a question about the air pots.

What is the largest amount of plants anyone has seen grown with these?

Seems like they would work really well for a SOG perpetual grow.

They don't take up very much space and there uniform manner would make them ideal for packing a bunch of honey's in close together.

I wanna grow a forest of huge main cola plants and these seem perfect for that.

I'm thinking of a scale of somewhere around 250.

Anyone ever seen this done with these?
If so what were the results?
Any thoughts?

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Anyways I have a question about the air pots.

What is the largest amount of plants anyone has seen grown with these?

Pineydoobey

In a #20 Air Pot I grow out an African Sativa using a modified SOG and SCROG paradigm using 6 plants.

HTH

CC

 

[FunkBomb]

If I can pull higher weights with less soil and smaller containers I'm going to do it. Where does one go to buy these air pots and smart pots?

Many thanks in advance.

-Funk

 

[Euphrates]

Are smart pots really that crappy, are they worse than regular pots ? Can there be any negative effects when using smart pots ?

 

[Pineydoobey]

Pineydoobey

In a #20 Air Pot I grow out an African Sativa using a modified SOG and SCROG paradigm using 6 plants.

HTH

CC

Clackamas Coot

What do you mean a #20 Air Pot? Is that a certain size? Can you post a link to that size and the different sizes if that is the case?

What does HTH mean?





Does anyone know about growing with generator?
I started a thread to try and get some answers but it's not getting much attention. Check it out please.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=166710