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the645project

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bought this today

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lob19

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I know it's nothing compared to your masterpieces but here it goes anyway:

Just a nice spoon pipe for resonable price of about 4$ It's rare to see those where I live, so I'm stoked to get one :D

peace
 

BudToaster

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Lady Bud Toaster ...

Lady Bud Toaster ...

And my newest desktop accessory ...

The Lady Bud Toaster (she's PINK!!!)



i had a conceptual (and actual) breakthrough in the temperature control software and the heater will now (finally!) maintain 1°F accuracy.

This concludes a 13 month project to bring computer temperature control to the Bud Toaster vaporizer.


The Bud Toaster:
  • all glass vapor path
  • battery powered
  • 30 seconds to achieve vaporizing temperature (430°F heater, 390°F bud)
  • 90 seconds to the first hit
  • 1°F temperature stability, regardless of size or number of hits
  • 7 1/2 minute session with auto shutoff
  • new session returns to previous vape temp
  • 3 button control
  • 60 minute run time on a battery charge
  • 15 minutes to recharge
  • hand-size:
 

BudToaster

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The Bud Toaster:
  • all glass vapor path
  • battery powered
  • 30 seconds to achieve vaporizing temperature (430°F heater, 390°F bud)
  • 90 seconds to the first hit
  • 1°F temperature stability, regardless of size or number of hits
  • 7 1/2 minute session with auto shutoff
  • new session returns to previous vape temp
  • 3 button control
  • 60 minute run time on a battery charge
  • 15 minutes to recharge
  • hand-size
yes
 
Hmmm very cool. I have been too lazy to look at the vape scene, just sucking the teet of this volcano for years. But a portable vape is essential, it's what i MUST have next.
It must be hard to make one, congrats budtoaster. I've been watching your progress for years.
 

BudToaster

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what was hard, was breaking through all my preconceptions about what i couldn't do ... and godbless the internet where i learned about current technology, watched youtube videos about technology that has passed me by since i graduated in 1970, and publishing the details on line which, for some unknown reason, motivated several people to contact me at critical times in the development to substantially improve the work.

And the internet is an infinite parts store and provides access to foundaries to produce things like printed circuit boards.

It's been a fun ride.
 
I hope you try to patent it. In the spirit of constructive criticism only to help you, I'm looking for a vape that's smaller.
Length of a fist or hand is ok but it'd be great if it was smaller in girth.
Obv that is very hard to do while keeping costs practical.
At least the size of one of those sports-helmet-pencil-cams, ideally the size of a cigarette/blunt/joint.
But that's just a want, granted a big one, but not necessarily a need as far as the short term is considered.

That's really why I haven't bought one yet/have been thinking of just trying to make one myself.
Youll probably get there before me though. And I'll buy yours if that's the case. lol. Good luck :)
Out of curiosity are you selling any yet? Or is it still in production? It'd be cool to have a budtoaster.
 

BudToaster

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yeah, i think of the Bud Toaster as a battery powered vape, rather than a portable (i.e. pocket-size) vape. This is the configuration that suits my needs.

Patent -- been there, done that, and my analysis is (1) not worth the effort due to the cost to defend it, and (2) a patent is a reflection of an ancient business model that i think is not sustainable in this world economy.

The Bud Toaster is and always will be open source hardware and software. The code isn't quite done yet - works fine with my 6vdc battery pack, but would melt if plugged into a DeWalt handtool battery module -- the components can handle up to 30vdc, but the software drives the heater too hard at high voltage.

i'm making some beta units (already assigned) for field testing away from my control to see if it really works as well as i think it does.

Production units will retail for $500
 
That's cool. I don't know about the patent being an outdated business model, for your product maybe you don't need a patent, that's an interesting perspective, for licensing a product to companies it's probably better but I do know it is a hugely time consuming process. Not to mention you pay lawyers who don't even know what they're doing relative to a) your product b) the rest of the process, so you have to baby them and do their research because the patent office doesn't want to even talk to anyone but your lawyer! That's if you have the time to do all the research etc. Otherwise you pay just for a lawyer who really has no vested interest as to whether your case makes it or not. LOL ridiculous....so costly! Anyways,

500 sounds like a good price, any more would be overkill I would think. Somehow Storz n Bickel managed to get 500 for an air pump/heater/thermostat so personally I think the compact device is worth more but >500 would scare a customer like me who's willing to plop down 500 for less damaged lungs.

The only thing I would want to hear is all devices being certified as having no nasties in them, being non ionizable, etc. 'Laboratory grade glass' would probably make the customer feel better too. But that's just me so who knows. But that was one of the things I really liked about the Volcano, after coming from a cheap box vape probably made in china with lead or some shit. lol.
 

BudToaster

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i'm with you on the no nasties item, that's why the Bud Toaster has an all-glass vapor path. The air flow is isolated from the internals of the electronics and the heater.

The glassware (three pieces) is N-51 borosilicate laboratory quality glass. i use the Bud Toaster every day, all day. i'm OCD about a clean system. This unit is as clean and good as the air you breathe (i live in the country -- no smog).
 
That's cool, glad to see thats a priority.
See though, doesnt 'borosilicate laboratory quality glass' sound so much better than 'all-glass'? :D At least to dorks like me.

Anyways good luck keep us posted!
ps I like the design over that weird alien-looking iolite thing LOL:)
Yours looks more natural
 

LiLWaynE

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That's cool. I don't know about the patent being an outdated business model, for your product maybe you don't need a patent, that's an interesting perspective, for licensing a product to companies it's probably better but I do know it is a hugely time consuming process. Not to mention you pay lawyers who don't even know what they're doing relative to a) your product b) the rest of the process, so you have to baby them and do their research because the patent office doesn't want to even talk to anyone but your lawyer! That's if you have the time to do all the research etc. Otherwise you pay just for a lawyer who really has no vested interest as to whether your case makes it or not. LOL ridiculous....so costly! Anyways,

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dude, take a look around- perhaps a google search or two - there are TONS of lawyers who specialize in PATENTS... you really do not want to fund a lawyers education on how to do a patent (and just so hope he does a good job for you), so find a lawyer who is already educated on Patenting... find a lawyer who has a good amount of patents signed off on...

also

you can take a look on the US Patent and Trademark Office website and they have an archive of most every patent EVER to be approved in the history of the US in PDF format http://www.uspto.gov/ ... you would just want to take a look at all of the "vaporizer" patents and see if your product contains any of the same components of other vaporizers on the market- if it does, you have to differentiate it by a certain percentage- i cannot recall that percentage off the top of my head, but its out there...

for you to be such a smart guy electronically as well as an inventor, im surprised you aren't willing to educated yourself on the actual BENEFITS of getting your product patented. You very well could be sitting on a gold mine- especially with the weed industry heading where its heading....

good luck

on second thought, perhaps we can talk, and maybe i can get you patented for a small cut of the profits !
 
dude, take a look around- perhaps a google search or two - there are TONS of lawyers who specialize in PATENTS... you really do not want to fund a lawyers education on how to do a patent (and just so hope he does a good job for you), so find a lawyer who is already educated on Patenting... find a lawyer who has a good amount of patents signed off on...

also

you can take a look on the US Patent and Trademark Office website and they have an archive of most every patent EVER to be approved in the history of the US in PDF format http://www.uspto.gov/ ... you would just want to take a look at all of the "vaporizer" patents and see if your product contains any of the same components of other vaporizers on the market- if it does, you have to differentiate it by a certain percentage- i cannot recall that percentage off the top of my head, but its out there...

for you to be such a smart guy electronically as well as an inventor, im surprised you aren't willing to educated yourself on the actual BENEFITS of getting your product patented. You very well could be sitting on a gold mine- especially with the weed industry heading where its heading....

good luck

on second thought, perhaps we can talk, and maybe i can get you patented for a small cut of the profits !

I should have been clearer, I was talking about patent lawyers! lol! :) That's how bad it is!
It's not like they really know what they're doing either.
And even if they do, they may not necessarily care enough as much as you would want them to in order to do the necessary research for your patent.
 

BudToaster

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China doesn't respect intellectual property rights ... so, as i said, what's the point? imho, if the business model depends on patent protection, it is doomed to fail. Fortunately, that's not the only possible approach.

And i agree, with the medical industry approaching 20% of the US economy, the Bud Toaster, or any new vaporizer for that matter, has the potential to make some money.

we'll all see ... i'll be playing it out here on the mj forums.
 
Anyone know about this Bong? Trying to identify manufacturer

Anyone know about this Bong? Trying to identify manufacturer

I bought a bong about 3 months ago and I absolutely love it. It is 1 1/2 foot and looks and feels very similar to the Roor in that it is long, shaped like a beaker and it has glass-on-glass. I bought it at Big Al's in Berkeley for a great price. When I talked to the guy he said that this company uses the same glass as Roor but the only thing I know about the company is that the bong has a CF on the tube. Here is a pic:
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Does anyone know who the manufacturer is?
 

humble1

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ask Big Al, or one of his junior associates.
I've been shopping there since I was 15! LOL
 
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