What can we do about Climate Change?

[Grat3fulh3ad]

right now it takes more energy to create a fusion reaction than we are able to get out of it.
Fusion isn't practical yet, There is a lot of research being done into fusion energy, but not at the LHC.

Why am I supposed to be your teacher? You should research some of this on your own.

I'm not against nuclear power at all. Yes I know we use a lot of energy.

What sort of stance do you think I have taken? I have never spoken out against nuclear power.

 

[Rednick]

But you made it sound like you wanted to teach me?

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Not really, I only corrected an error or two... that does not mean I want to take you to raise.

 

[Rednick]

Well, at least if we disagree on the means, we still agree on the goal.

So the glass is half-full.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

The only means I disagree with is continued wanton burning of fossil fuels, or a switch to biomass fuels which affects food crop availability in third world nations.

 

[Rednick]

And nuclear, right?

 

[MarquisBlack]

And nuclear, right?

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

When the fuck did I ever say I was against nuclear power?????

did you make that assumption when I said that spent uranium is many many times more dangerous than sequestered carbon?

 

[whodair]

eat way less red meat to cut down on greenhouse gasses

 

[Synthettek]

Climate Change LOL

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Climate Change LOL

so the climate is stable?

 

[Rednick]

Carbon is inert. (I cook my steak over it) Other than as a greenhouse gas it is harmless.
Spent uranium is poison. Fucking poison. Kills all life exposed to it. poison.
It is enlighten not elighten.
ignorant.

Learn something before you post opinion and speculation, or at the very least, loosely base your speculation on facts.

Sorry, I took this to mean that you had Nuclear off the table, my bad.

 

[MarquisBlack]

I was reminded of the Simpsons when they're talking about how Homer got a job at the Power Plant without a Master's Degree and Homer goes "I didn't even know what a nuclear panner plant was!"

 

[headband 707]

fusion is different and they are trying to work things out obviously, but until they figure out how to store nuclear waste I don't think it's the way to go either. The plants are antiques in Ont. WTF!!!! Oil isn't the answer but either is this IMVHO peace out Headband707

 

[Rednick]

See, Global Warming can have positive effects. Just look at the benefits it had for international relations.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100324/ap_on_sc/as_india_disappearing_island

Just don't move to Bangladesh.

 

[Nor'Easter]

I guess the global warming change was closed because it got too political. You can involve politics in almost any discussion, or economics, or religion, but this is primarily a scientific issue so let's keep it that way so we have a place to discuss this sensibly without another thread getting binned. Oil must be binned, not these threads!

 

[hoosierdaddy]

That thread did not get too political, it had been political from the start. It got binned due to overzealous moderating, nothing more. A little show of power...(typical really) (shrug)

You cannot survive without oil, Nor'Easter. And you have no valid substitutions that you can point us to. Coal, natural gas, nuclear...all good sources of energy, and none of them suit alarmist types. Wind and sun suck ass, and folks who don't have their heads up their bums know this. They are not viable substitutions.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

It is only a political issue when deniers make it political.
The science is all there valid and un-refutable.
The only way to argue against AGW is to ignore the science and focus on the politics.

Show of power... lmao... Kharmagirl tried to get people to give her a reason not to bin the thread, and only binned it after repeated complaints from site members. I don't think it was any sort of "moderator power trip" at all.

The thread had damn near run its course anyhow. Global warming and man's hand in it, have been thoroughly proved to all but the most completely indoctrinated population of of the tiny mental island of glenbeckistan.

 

[sparkjumper]

You people notice all the weird new terms that have come out lately?Deniers,truthers,birthers jesus christ if you ask me people are just lonely and want to belong to a group.Losers.O Yea what can we do about climate change?Fart less

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

You people notice all the weird new terms that have come out lately?Deniers,truthers,birthers jesus christ if you ask me people are just lonely and want to belong to a group.Losers.O Yea what can we do about climate change?Fart less

funny thing is, the terms are not nearly as weird as the ideologies they reference. Once you are aware of the ideology the term is obvious as an easy way to reference it.

deniers deny the validity of the scientific evidence demonstrating global warming. (although before there were global warming deniers the term was usually used in reference to holocaust denial)

truthers are out to expose the truth about the 9/11 conspiracy believing we have been given only lies in the official explanation.

birthers believe Obama's birth to have occurred outside of the United States, and refuse the validity of evidence to the contrary.

Whether all of these are the mere product of lonely people wanting to belong... or scared people attacking what scares them, I'm not going to try to say. I am always at a loss when i try to speculate how some of those people arrived at their conclusions.

IMHO formulating a "plan to deal with the problem" is more political than "recognizing there is a problem and providing overwhelming evidence of the problem and the cause".