Croissant
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check out this out about your the 200 mile per gallon carburator myth
http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/carburetor.asp
http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/carburetor.asp
Nikola Tesla & Free Energy technology ..discovered around 100 years ago
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It's funny how people who have no idea about physics get to "believe" in things they don't understand.
Yes, geo-thermal energy is certainly one of the ways to go.
But it's disappointing to see people who believe in the absurd notion of "FREE ENERGY"
They only need 5 pages of complicated explanation of how baron Munchausen pulled himself and his horse out of the lake. Be it by pulling his hair, or, for the sci-fi boys, by pushing the ether.
Free energy in nature is like free lunch in society. And while Tesla was quite eccentric, he has nothing to do with all this conspiracy bullshit that was made up long after. I'd say when critisizing Einstein's theory of relativity Tesla made a comment, very valid today about the conspiracy fabrications about his life and inventions:
"The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king".
Yes, geo-thermal energy is certainly one of the ways to go.
But it's disappointing to see people who believe in the absurd notion of "FREE ENERGY"
They only need 5 pages of complicated explanation of how baron Munchausen pulled himself and his horse out of the lake. Be it by pulling his hair, or, for the sci-fi boys, by pushing the ether.Free energy in nature is like free lunch in society. And while Tesla was quite eccentric, he has nothing to do with all this conspiracy bullshit that was made up long after. I'd say when critisizing Einstein's theory of relativity Tesla made a comment, very valid today about the conspiracy fabrications about his life and inventions:
"The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king".
Duckmang
Member
Bazarocka, I personally knew an older man in my teens who claimed to have developed an engine that ran on water in the early sixties. He was an older guy without childern (not gay but a real playa) and liked having the audience of an intelligent young man. Having seen his workshop, I don't have any reason to doubt him, I'd estimate easily a half million in equipment in his personal workshop. I'd seen a couple of engines and other projects he had built and even that shit blew my mind and I was one of the smartest kids around. He sold the "water engine" to an oil company (I won't name but he did) for 250,000$ in the early sixties. Being intensly curious I prodded him for details but he would never tell me any substantive details about that water engine, obviously afraid of the oil company 30+ years later. "If I told you, they would kill us both"
Sorry for going off the "Tesla" topic but I definately believe that "they" will keep any technology that threatens profit away from the masses.
Sorry for going off the "Tesla" topic but I definately believe that "they" will keep any technology that threatens profit away from the masses.
SMC
Member
"1-Production costs of everything would fall down sharply getting rid of poverty around the world. It can't happen because consumption would sky rocket and the planet's resources wouldn't last more than 100 years before turning itself into a wasteland. "
Nah nah nah nah nah......
"2-Population numbers would dramatically rise"
Not at all, as quality of life increases, education and intellect also increases. Spread of information would stabilise population growth i would say...
4-Whoever controls the energy, food supply, water supply, information supply and money supply controls the world and they would rather die before they would give that power away....This technology exists today but it will never see the light of day until it gets so big they can't hide it anymore.
Like i said in another thread "Dawn is coming, my darling".
Have a guess WHO this "darling" i speak of and i will give you K+ for a whole month
Those are not my words, they were excuses that I read before from the supposed experts concerning this topic. I don't agree with them at all because mankind will always find a way to overcome it's problems. With free energy we could build giant indoor vertical gardens that would provider all the food we need, we could take our water straight from the air with technology similar to dehumidifiers. We could build new types of transportation, we could cheaply go outside our own planet and mine resources,etc. It would be the so talked about Golden Age. : )
transplant
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Bump....
Reminds me of Pantone's water engine, but technology is frrely available on the web in this case : http://www.geetfriends.net/netdocs/onnouscachetout_eng.pdf
some vidz : http://video.google.fr/videosearch?q=pantone+engine&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:fr
fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=WZKaS-n9Lsn64Abt2JFv&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBQQqwQwAA#That's a very strange theory..
Irie !
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I just can't see any problems,buddy ..other than people being too difficult.
.. nothing would change 'in everyday living', in perfect co-work changing the world with these Ether-technology discoveries!!
We got the power plants allready and all the wires connected to the houses ...now all you need to do is place a different type of generator inside the power plant!! ..it is this simple. The world prolly wouldn't even notice it.
Then the money-side of things
Can you please go further into this; WHY there would be more poverty, cause i just don't get it???!! ..other than people being too difficult with this.
Why more poverty and hunger?!! ..why would a new electrical power source change this world to worse??
Population rise?? ..why would population start to rise?? ..much, much cheaper electricity bills = happier people =people having more sex, and being so happy about the "FREE ENERGY"..??
"FREE" Energy
...and let's talk about the word "FREE" here a minute, cause you people seem to think, that things 'get in to the shop shelves' all by themsleves, or how is it? ...or does someone ACTUALLY have to manufacture the good first?
..i'm so sorry!!! ...that the parts to these machines cost money, and man hours!!! ....i am so sorry, children..
I'm also sorry, that someone have to SMELT the fucking metals out of the FUCKING ore, which FIRST have to be dug out of the FUCKING ground!!! LOL ...god damit, people!! ...but the ENERGY of THE COSMOS is TOTALLY FREE!!!!! ...or who exactly, is the person who will charge us for it, huh???! ..just wondering, people?!
Is the problem with words "FREE ENERGY(electricity)" now behind us? ..The Enviromental Energy (Cosmic Radiation a.k.a. Zero Point Radiation) is FREE to humanity to use ...but to harnest this to house hold electricity, costs some, yes ...but very, very, very much less than what electricity costs today ...Watch the SKY-.news clip. The guy tells that the costs of such "free Energy generator is 5000 dollars (aussie dollars i imagine) ..and then only the MAINTANANCE of this machine costs some, right
...so if this kinda ZPR-generator would then last for 50 years without you having to change a single part on the generator ...Yes, this FREE ENERGY,would cost your house hold 5000 dollars dollars (aussie?)
SO, ALL OF YOU ARE CORRECT ...there is no free ELECTRICITY. ..But the Cosmic Energy is,still, totally FREE. Period.
3-Such technology in the wrong hands could be catastrophic, imagine some lunatic cult/dictator having the power to destroy Earth... Nuclear energy is nothing compared with the energy you get from time/ether/quantum (whatever the name is) itself.
Lunatics are allready destroing everything!!! ...on what planet do you live? ...so don't worry about this thing neither
But to guarantee that global things will change to better, and continue to run smoothly. We (would) just have to change the whole system, WHOLE global social system..
..And to this i already gave an 'idea' for, or a version of it.
...and in that 'idea' i ALLREADY answered all these problems you present here...
But you have to "colour it in" more, as you'd like to see the world & society ..this is kinda just the "canvas" for people to paint on ...sort of.
From my earlier post ..just above your's, mate
Hey, bro
Answer to these things is to; change the whole World System into such a system, that "no" 'exploiting of others' could occour.
When you take away private banking and money-hackling, BIG- corporate business and similar things , then the money-elite can't take things over any more, cause they don't have the money, see? ...so, whose gonna be someone's mercenary (army), when these bankers don't have any money to pay these killers?! ...see, where i'm going at with this?
You might say "this is communism", but actually THE Communism, Marx and these people ...they actually WORKED for the Capitalists. Rothchilds, warburgs, Jacob Schiff (loeb&kuhn) and these bankers, funded the bolsheviks into power ..and the whole 'cold war'. These same people also funded the Nazis ..or so someone, very convincingly, has said/writen.
... http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/
So no, this would NOT be Communism.
But something like..
- A global People's Society, with an UN -like governing body, but a "transparent" one = would allow sovereign nations to run their own culture and country, as long as Global (individual's)Human Rights would be respected.
There is actually NO NEED for 'governments or politics' as we know these today ..have you guys noticed this??!
Cause actually, when you think about our (global) society and how; "The food etc. get into the stores, and from there; to the consumers..." ...the whole world could be run as a one Company, as a ONE big corporation. ..and this is the way IT actually runs allready today,right? ..only today, it's ALL in private hands.
Now ...all you have to do is to; "nationalize" the whole Big Industry (..basically the whole world, LOL!) and abolish all private money-hackling (banking and all stock markets!!) ..and take ALL money-moving to the PEOPLE = this UN-like body ..and so have; ONE global money system; same money value every where! ..no "need" for loan-interets, cause all money is the people's hands, or only very small interests for small business loan ...or just for a cool car or a sailing boat!! ..Fuck 'Communism', i say, ay?
Playing around along these kinda lines/ideas, we could make an equal job-pay system (work salaries) for the whole world; one health care; one social system etc.
All the different cultures & peoples would bloom, cause no McDonalds or exxon would be there trying to take over some small country ..people would be way more happy and so, more friendly to each other. ...technological discoveries would reach the people a whole lot faster, cause there would be no private interest to keep technology and discoveries hidden as the big companies do today.
Then... We could legalize IT!
Today everything gets more and more privatized again, and this is where you see how THEY used Communism; To abbolish monarchies (Old World Order), by lying to people "things will change, when we have taken over the king" ..then they (big private money, nobles..) keep this false-social society system running for 50 years, and then they run also this Communism down ...and then the bankers get to buy it all for themselves ...dirt cheep (= the New World Order), see?
Ok ..i'll get off the soap box now.
Peace.
"..This technology exists today but it will never see the light of day until it gets so big they can't hide it anymore. "
And the point of this thread is exactly this ...to inform people about this Ether Physics and about the Ether- technology !!!
..now, if you understand that this Ether-biz might even work ...then why not tell your friends about all this!!! ..ok, amigo
Peace.
heeeyyy....
I'll read & reply to the rest of the posts later ...too lazy now and got some smoking to doooo.
It's great to see people are interested on the subject and start to see that the Universe just might be 'filled to the top' with partices and the Radiation the "particle friction" produces.
Bill Hicks on "Cosmic Particle-ElectroMagnetism Law"..
"News Report : Today some of us realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration — that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather." - Bill Hicks - Positive Drug Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA
...our bodies are, in FACT; "Particle and radiation Mist" ...ain't it trippy??!!
..not a single atom in our body touch another atom ..cause they can't!!! They stay 'together & separate' because of electromagnetism (cosmic radiation).
..and then the Soul-spirit completes our SELF, the individual human being.
..Have a smoke on that!!! LOL
I'll read & reply to the rest of the posts later ...too lazy now and got some smoking to doooo.
It's great to see people are interested on the subject and start to see that the Universe just might be 'filled to the top' with partices and the Radiation the "particle friction" produces.
Bill Hicks on "Cosmic Particle-ElectroMagnetism Law"..
"News Report : Today some of us realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration — that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather." - Bill Hicks - Positive Drug Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA
...our bodies are, in FACT; "Particle and radiation Mist" ...ain't it trippy??!!
..not a single atom in our body touch another atom ..cause they can't!!! They stay 'together & separate' because of electromagnetism (cosmic radiation).
..and then the Soul-spirit completes our SELF, the individual human being.
..Have a smoke on that!!! LOL
Buffalo Brown
Member
yes.
great thread! thanks for the links. and very timely for me ... now that i've (mostly) finished work on my vaporizer, free energy is my next project. i think it is a "sin" to impose a monthly "tax" on people to have electricity ... and i'm determined to work on fixing this problem with whatever time i have left.
my free energy work will be "open source", just like my Bud Toaster vape.
my free energy work will be "open source", just like my Bud Toaster vape.
Awesome ..go for it!! ..and there's plenty of people at it allready, so i'm sure you'll find your way..
Yea ..the magnetic fields that the 'friction' of the liquid (water, oils or even liquid metals like 'quick silver') ..moving in the spirals create, with this 'peculiar' arangement of the metals (used to create the spiral-flunnel, similar construct as Teslas Wardenglyffe tower; check it out at Wiki for more info on the peculiar assembly) apparently creates this anti-gravity effect
= The megnetic fields of the machine/device/object exclude it from the Gravity (fields) effects of the planet and the other celestial bodies, like the sun!!
Of course the liquid in the "vortex" has to move fairly rapidly to create these effects.. or using 'rotator-mixer' AS the spiral-flunnel..is the same 'device' assembeld alittle differently..
There are MANY ways of doing things, isn't there..!!
I'll get back to this subject with links a little later ...this is fairly 'un-known ground' for me also ..i have more read on Tesla's inventions, and haven't still had the time to get to know Schaubergers invetnions ..which are very, very intersting, indeed.
Laters.
Think about all this like this:
The devil is allways said to be out to destroy all Life from planet Earth ...but why hasn't he/they done this allready?
Becasue they ASLO have to live on this Planet!!! ...get it?
Hey,
Here's is a nice article which 'expalins' or gives an explination (for the lack of a better one) on how the Cosmc Mechanics, and so Ether Physics might opperate ...we can't say this is a scientific fact..yet, cause the mainstream science ( fascist corporate science = the loudest voice in science) will not aknowledge this Aether-theory ...cause they want to keep it 'hidden' for profits, huge profits.
So they, the global industrail-banking cabal (who control the media, the fields of science (-publication also), research funding, universities etc.) ..have replaced it, the Ether-theory, with Quantum Physical-theories ...which ARE the same as Aether. So they just changed the names and confuced the researchers and the scientists with these false-principles on cosmic mechanics. ..and so, they keep on steeling and lying for the whole world.
The ruined the planet with their carbon based -enrergy; oceans forests, land, air. Animals are suffering. People are suffering, poor and hungry.
Spread the word on these Ether Physics and Free Energy applications!
This piece gives Gravity a great explination.
Hope you liked it ..does make "seeing" the commos in operation alittle easier, doesn't it..
Here's is a nice article which 'expalins' or gives an explination (for the lack of a better one) on how the Cosmc Mechanics, and so Ether Physics might opperate ...we can't say this is a scientific fact..yet, cause the mainstream science ( fascist corporate science = the loudest voice in science) will not aknowledge this Aether-theory ...cause they want to keep it 'hidden' for profits, huge profits.
So they, the global industrail-banking cabal (who control the media, the fields of science (-publication also), research funding, universities etc.) ..have replaced it, the Ether-theory, with Quantum Physical-theories ...which ARE the same as Aether. So they just changed the names and confuced the researchers and the scientists with these false-principles on cosmic mechanics. ..and so, they keep on steeling and lying for the whole world.
The ruined the planet with their carbon based -enrergy; oceans forests, land, air. Animals are suffering. People are suffering, poor and hungry.
Spread the word on these Ether Physics and Free Energy applications!
This piece gives Gravity a great explination.
Henry Stevens said:
Hope you liked it ..does make "seeing" the commos in operation alittle easier, doesn't it..
All this Henry Stevens paper science is from the 19th century and explains NOTHING. The 19th century idea that gravity is the result of shielding agains push has one big problem - all experiments conducted so far cannot detect any form of shielding (be it from pulling or pushing), i.e. gravity penetrates everything.
Any theory trying to explain some part of the existence (or the whole of it) should be in complience with the observations and should explain observations that cannot be explained by current theories. There are plenty of unexplainable observations in our universe. The ether theories (because it's not just one) have been mostly abandoned in the begining of the 20th century in favor of the theory of relativity because it explains a lot of observations that cannot be explained by the ether theories. If a new modified ether theory comes out and explains something new and makes predictions that can be proved later, then, I think, it will be accepted by the thinking ones among the physicists.
But talking about conspiracies without giving explanation for anything, without making any predictions that can be proved... that's just poetry.
And I don't want to spoil the poetry, as it atracts many inquiring minds to the field of physics, but I hope that these inquiring minds will take the next step and try to think reasonably and not emotionally.
Any theory trying to explain some part of the existence (or the whole of it) should be in complience with the observations and should explain observations that cannot be explained by current theories. There are plenty of unexplainable observations in our universe. The ether theories (because it's not just one) have been mostly abandoned in the begining of the 20th century in favor of the theory of relativity because it explains a lot of observations that cannot be explained by the ether theories. If a new modified ether theory comes out and explains something new and makes predictions that can be proved later, then, I think, it will be accepted by the thinking ones among the physicists.
But talking about conspiracies without giving explanation for anything, without making any predictions that can be proved... that's just poetry.
And I don't want to spoil the poetry, as it atracts many inquiring minds to the field of physics, but I hope that these inquiring minds will take the next step and try to think reasonably and not emotionally.
If Gravity penetrates EVERYTHING, why isn't the universe ONE BIG mass of matter?!!
..are there some magnetic(radiation)-fields in cosmos that might be stronger than G-force? Yes..
Zero Point Rays (not ZP Radiation) actually PENETRATES just about anything in it's "highest" frequency.
Tesla show taht some radiation can be cnseled with elctro-magnet (fields) ..but som e radiation/rays ..will go through EVERY magneticfield that humans have been able to produce till to day..
So, a vacuum created in a lab somehere on this Earth, isn't actually "a vacuum" in reality ..cause rays/radiation penetrate it constantly ...and some particles in wave form is apparently just energy, not matter/subsantce accoring to "corporate science" ..but they still are particles.
Nikola Tesla's Radiations and Cosmic Rays
http://www.andre-waser.ch/Publications/NikolaTeslasRadiationsAndCosmicRays.pdfhttp://www.andre-waser.ch/Publicatio...CosmicRays.pdf
IS THERE A REACTING AETHER? Here is the Proof: It powers the BEDINI Machine!
http://aetherscience.net/www-energys...00/es2001.html
And read the large Tesla quote from my Thread-starter post:
EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF VERY HIGH FREQUENCY....
..see it?
Gravity in mass
Mass of matter (say a planet's) tends to FALL into it's own center ..and it ALLWAYS tries to fall into it's center FROM every possible direction ..understand? ...it (matter effected by G) tries to move from every possible direction but so is/are the other particles as well ..so they have to go pass each other.
Evreything in the cosmos is in constant motion.
i still like Stevens' paper better than "yours" ...sorry buddy.
according to the article to which you replied, it said that there are examples of functioning machines powered by aether, so to speak.
I don't see why someone with enough cash could not throw enough cash at someone who knew their mechanics and physics well to put one of those machines together and see whether they work or not.
"If Gravity penetrates EVERYTHING, why isn't the universe ONE BIG mass of matter?!!"
The easiest and shortest answer is: because it's not the only force in the universe.
I read the links from the thread start and you can see my reaction in my first post in the thread. About the "proof" of reacting ether - I can't see anything because it says 403 Forbidden. I guess I'm a part of the conspiracy and it refuses to let me in and read
I couldn't quite understand what you mean when asking a physicist "and it ALLWAYS tries to fall into it's center FROM every possible direction ..understand?". Do I look so brainless as to not understand the basics of gravitation? Or maybe you think what you said is so complex that it's hard to understand?
2 + 2 = 4... understand?
Since my life is too short to answer such dumb questions, I'll leave you enjoying your way of understanding the universe. I just wish you happy learning. And the chance to see a working Bedini machine, not just a bunch of "working" equipment in a youtube video, nor a sci-fi paper, because you know how they call something that doesn't exist - a lie.
Peace
The easiest and shortest answer is: because it's not the only force in the universe.
I read the links from the thread start and you can see my reaction in my first post in the thread. About the "proof" of reacting ether - I can't see anything because it says 403 Forbidden. I guess I'm a part of the conspiracy and it refuses to let me in and read
I couldn't quite understand what you mean when asking a physicist "and it ALLWAYS tries to fall into it's center FROM every possible direction ..understand?". Do I look so brainless as to not understand the basics of gravitation? Or maybe you think what you said is so complex that it's hard to understand?
2 + 2 = 4... understand?
Since my life is too short to answer such dumb questions, I'll leave you enjoying your way of understanding the universe. I just wish you happy learning. And the chance to see a working Bedini machine, not just a bunch of "working" equipment in a youtube video, nor a sci-fi paper, because you know how they call something that doesn't exist - a lie.
Peace
