clone s degradeing?
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bosshoggin
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OK -I AM SORRY FOR TALKIN BAD R WHTEVER-lets start over i was thinking the clones might have been flowered then given 2 me.maybe for a week r 2, either way they whr stressed. heres some pics-3 in 3 gallon pots and 2 still in cupstransplanted 3 days ago-under 1k mh -with co2 boost.they look like thy took?i ll keep yall posted-peace and overgrow.
there about 10 inches when transplanted and have 3-4 node left-i cut the bottoms.hope this was easier to read -thanx to all tht help..i realized 1k way to much for so few -thinking of some t'5 for vegging
there about 10 inches when transplanted and have 3-4 node left-i cut the bottoms.hope this was easier to read -thanx to all tht help..i realized 1k way to much for so few -thinking of some t'5 for vegging
superultramega
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You're in the Hydro forum. Your plants are in dirt.
Here's some help with the writing. I didn't correct the grammar, but simply made it readable. If you want to communicate with people in writing, you need to clearly write what you mean. This is why they have you study this over and over in school. It's a little important.
"OK -I AM SORRY FOR MY POOR WRITING OR WHATEVER-lets start over. I was thinking the clones might have been flowered then given to me. Maybe for a week or two, either way they were stressed. Here are some pics-3 in 3 gallon pots and 2 still in cups transplanted 3 days ago-under 1k mh -with co2 boost. Do they look like they took? I'll keep you all posted-peace and overgrow."
Here's some help with the writing. I didn't correct the grammar, but simply made it readable. If you want to communicate with people in writing, you need to clearly write what you mean. This is why they have you study this over and over in school. It's a little important.
"OK -I AM SORRY FOR MY POOR WRITING OR WHATEVER-lets start over. I was thinking the clones might have been flowered then given to me. Maybe for a week or two, either way they were stressed. Here are some pics-3 in 3 gallon pots and 2 still in cups transplanted 3 days ago-under 1k mh -with co2 boost. Do they look like they took? I'll keep you all posted-peace and overgrow."
bosshoggin
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yeah thr in 60/40 soil and perlite-needed 2 trans plant fast and since iam keeping best 2-3 for moms wouldnt i want the moms not to grow 2 fast????they whr rooted in small rockwool then put into cups with soilless mix-i know i should have went with soiless but bought the co2 boost instead-hope that was better written-thanx alot to all who take time 2 help greatly app.
superultramega
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That's really not much better. Is there a question in there?
If you're growing in dirt, you should post questions to the dirt forum. This forum is for hydro only. I don't know anything about dirt. I would assume most people on this forum don't either. That is why they have different forums for different things.
These are not text messages to your "brah". Stop using "2" instead of "to". Write out there, they're and their. Use the space bar. Try to write in complete sentences. Here's a very helpful tip; put two spaces after a sentence. Look at the sentences I have written. Notice the space after each period? You write one sentence, which should include what happened and what it happened to, then end with a period and hit the space bar twice.
I'm not being a grammar nazi here. Your posts are simply unreadable. It would probably be a good idea to take a remedial reading and writing class. It's pretty hard to find a decent job if this is the best you can communicate in writing.
If you're growing in dirt, you should post questions to the dirt forum. This forum is for hydro only. I don't know anything about dirt. I would assume most people on this forum don't either. That is why they have different forums for different things.
These are not text messages to your "brah". Stop using "2" instead of "to". Write out there, they're and their. Use the space bar. Try to write in complete sentences. Here's a very helpful tip; put two spaces after a sentence. Look at the sentences I have written. Notice the space after each period? You write one sentence, which should include what happened and what it happened to, then end with a period and hit the space bar twice.
I'm not being a grammar nazi here. Your posts are simply unreadable. It would probably be a good idea to take a remedial reading and writing class. It's pretty hard to find a decent job if this is the best you can communicate in writing.
bosshoggin
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damn SURE WISH OVERGROW WAS BAK-IAM GOING TO BE ME TALK N SPELL THE WAY I DO-DEAL WIT IT .U DONT LIKE IT FINE ,RESPECT ME AND DONT TALK DOWN JUST MOVE AROUND.....THE REASON Y I POSTED HERE IS BECAUSE THEY WHR IN SOILESS MIX BUT TRANSPLANTED TO THE SOIL MJIX LIKE I SAID.THE QUESTION IS NOW THAT I HAVE SOILESS MIX , WHEN I TRANSPLANT FOR FLOWERING .WO YA LL THINK THY WILL TRANSPLANT OK BAK INTO A SOILESS MIX?TO ANY1 THT HELPS THANK U VERY MUCH-ALL THE HATERS ,NEED TO STOP DRINKING THAT HATERADE.I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT TO ALLGROWERS WHO R HERE TO HELP N ANYWAY NOT PUNKS BUMPIN THERE GUM OVER A COMUTER-COMPUTER GANGSTERS AND ALL BAD KARMA PPL ALIKE PLZ RESPECT ME AND JUST KNO IAM ONLY HERE 2 SHARE AND LEARN ........SOME MIGHT WANNA BE GRAMMER TEACHERS R JUST SIT ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY N JUST PLAIN JERKS....................
bosshoggin
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2112 PLZ DO NOT DIS RESPECT ME NOT KNOWING ANYTHING BOUT ME-PLZ SIR-JUST MOVE AROUND -IAM LOOKIN 4 GROWING HELP NOTHIN MORE SO TAKE THAT HATEIN SOMEWHR ELSE PLZ SIR
i'm dumber for having read this thread
if you make 20 mothers over the next 5 years off eachother. meaning if you take a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone....................................................................
the genetics will drift and your strain is beat. that's why in SoCal there is so much shitty OG variants. not only is the grower clueless, but the genes to their "elite" meds aren't what they used to be. even the best grower can only grow drifted genetics so well. can't polish a turd..
the genetics will drift and your strain is beat. that's why in SoCal there is so much shitty OG variants. not only is the grower clueless, but the genes to their "elite" meds aren't what they used to be. even the best grower can only grow drifted genetics so well. can't polish a turd..
That's a very debatable issue and IMO a false statement. I agree that this is possible if you are cloning from a plant that was once stressed at one point but if not, it's the same genes and will be the same. I've had a mother for over 10 years that I cloned and cloned and cloned and cloned and it was always perfect. Way over more than 20 mothers over 10 years time.
transplant
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hey guys n gals wts up?heres the deal just got all ths sht to setup6 1ks all ect.-the prson tht gave me all ths said he would pul 2 and a half oz from each 7 gallon pot-9 under each lamp-am i the only one that thinks ths is horrible?i ve pulled 2 0z off 3 gallons-so my question is for ths dumb ass is it th clones which i think -u know so many generation-how old r mothers wht not-i mean even a sativa w ould yiels more thn2 oz from a 7 gallon pot-whts up yall
OK, I don't know if this has been posted, sorry if it has...I know that clones passed from people to people get stresed in the proccess...that stresssed clone does not do as well as the previouse one & so on is how the dergation goes...So,,,buy the seeds...plant them...pick only the best after 2 weeks of growth & ditch the rest...Then you will have good stock...
transplant
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Big old ditto right here
PS. I do not think you will get help here if you run your mouth, fucked up, while asking for help. I'm sorry sir, but that is retarded.[/quote]
Big old ditto right here
PS. I do not think you will get help here if you run your mouth, fucked up, while asking for help. I'm sorry sir, but that is retarded.[/quote]
Big old ditto right here
transplant
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NO NO NO
NO NO NO
Fast Moms = Fast clones... FAST growing moms make more vegetative matter in same time frame is more clones also but faster clones = more bud!!!
NO NO NO
Fast Moms = Fast clones... FAST growing moms make more vegetative matter in same time frame is more clones also but faster clones = more bud!!!
Cloning is unnatural behaviour!
Clone lines become inherently weaker and less vigorous than the seed plant they descend from with age!
Clones of clones of clones (r) are open to diseases, pathogens and plant viruses,,, which may reside within the plant tissue indefinitely ,,, cause everytime a plant is cut ,, we open up a fresh wound that can get infected!
Clones from 'true-breeding' stock sometimes retain their vegetative conditions (e.g. Cheese)... but clones from 'unstable' stock show signs of wanting to pre-flower as they grow old,, after which the performance in growth and rooting is reduced.
The quality and condition of a clone (and clone line) also hangs on the plants phyllotaxy ,, the specific branch that was cut to make the original clone (clone line),, and the way the clone was rooted.
Hope this helps
Clone lines become inherently weaker and less vigorous than the seed plant they descend from with age!
Clones of clones of clones (r) are open to diseases, pathogens and plant viruses,,, which may reside within the plant tissue indefinitely ,,, cause everytime a plant is cut ,, we open up a fresh wound that can get infected!
Clones from 'true-breeding' stock sometimes retain their vegetative conditions (e.g. Cheese)... but clones from 'unstable' stock show signs of wanting to pre-flower as they grow old,, after which the performance in growth and rooting is reduced.
The quality and condition of a clone (and clone line) also hangs on the plants phyllotaxy ,, the specific branch that was cut to make the original clone (clone line),, and the way the clone was rooted.
Hope this helps
This statement should really read, Clone lines may become inherently weaker and less vigorous than the seed plant they descend from with age if the clones of clones of clones (r) are subjected to diseases, pathogens and plant viruses!
No. It should read the way it was originally written,, (when we wrote it)
If that's what you say, then starting with your statement,
"Clone lines become inherently weaker and less vigorous than the seed plant they descend from with age!"
Notice the "become" is highlighted and become means 100%. Like if someone said, "I became annoyed when that girl opened up her fat mouth and started talking". It doesn't mean I may not be annoyed, it means, I am annoyed. And then you say,
"which may reside within the plant tissue indefinitely ,,, cause everytime a plant is cut ,, we open up a fresh wound that can get infected!"
That doesn't mean that it will 100% get infected because if that plant was treated perfect and never was infected in the first place, then the clones wouldn't degrade and they will be the same. So your statement is saying one thing and conflicting with that. I don't know how much clearer I can get, not to disrespect.
we have run some jack herer for about 5 years off the same orig mum/clones off her.
the mum/clones all appear to be healthy, but when we take cuttings from her, and put them next to some jack started from seeds, the jack from seeds def are growing much/much better, larger/wider/larger buds..
understand that this comparision is very unscientific, but to us it does seem that clones from clones/etc/etc, are not as productive as from seeds..
we have seen similar results from other plants/seeds that we have too..
the mum/clones all appear to be healthy, but when we take cuttings from her, and put them next to some jack started from seeds, the jack from seeds def are growing much/much better, larger/wider/larger buds..
understand that this comparision is very unscientific, but to us it does seem that clones from clones/etc/etc, are not as productive as from seeds..
we have seen similar results from other plants/seeds that we have too..
