cosmiccowboy
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mine are in between paper towels(3 skunk and 3 mandala mix) and i just seen a little white tail on 2 of em. should i put them in dirt right now or let them go for a bit?...this is my first time tryin to plant a seed.
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question about seeds
- Thread starter cosmiccowboy
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There are so many ways people germinate seeds................I'd plant em' now,but that's me.
So would I....................
cosmiccowboy
Member
thanks for the fast response fellers...clackamas,i hope yer doin ok..when i started last year i read everything you ever wrote.i've grown some pretty good northern lights from clones but this seed thing is like havin a baby..uh,i mean,hehehe....it is exciting...gonna put those 2 in lc's basic mix right now.
cosmiccowboy
Member
would it be ok to put the cups that the seeds are in,inside of a plastic container and put the top on it?
I wouldn't.........I would put them in a warm well lit area. Not to hot,not to cold with plenty of light. 70 to 80 degrees should be fine.
redneck shogun
Member
It seems to me that if you get them in the dirt as soon as they start to crack, then they are healthier with less stretch. This is just my personal observations and I could be wrong. I would like to put the hypothesis to the test soon and document it.
Good advice, IMHO
cosmiccowboy
Member
i wound up puttin the cups with a thermometer inside a 2 gallon bucket and put the top on bucket, in my veg box(fluoros) i'll take them out of the bucket..
J
JackTheGrower
I'm for then getting started in soil, in large soil, in large organic soil...
The seedling has a lot of work to do and I found with some strains that great light early on helps keep the internode distance shorter.
Also watch how long your seedlings seem to linger before growing upwards as a plant does.. I have a theory that the ones that shoot up relatively faster are males. Noticing from seedling on is the first step in data collection for me.
That's a loose and general theory so I welcome any feed back.
Ernst
The seedling has a lot of work to do and I found with some strains that great light early on helps keep the internode distance shorter.
Also watch how long your seedlings seem to linger before growing upwards as a plant does.. I have a theory that the ones that shoot up relatively faster are males. Noticing from seedling on is the first step in data collection for me.
That's a loose and general theory so I welcome any feed back.
Ernst
cosmiccowboy
Member
how close should they be to the fluoros?
in the winter time i use the top of my hot water heater.
I soak a paper towel with plain tap water fold it into a square and stuff that inside a ziploc baggy and then i place the seed between the plastic baggy and wet paper towel.
I roll it up loosely and put it on top of the hot water heater. i come back in 24 hours and 90% of the time they are split and showing a tap root. Then i place the seed into a peat puck and that is inside a small container with a clear plastic dome.
The same thing the jiffy pucks come in. (you could go straight to the jiffy puck.. but i like watching them split open)
i come back in 24 to 48 hours and they are sprouted and at the top of the plastic dome.
I then tear of the paper material that is a around the peat puck and transplant that into a 4 inch pot filled with my moonshine mix... it's a hot soil mix but if everything survives they are good to go.
in the summer time i stick them in a drawer instead on top of the hot water heater.
Practice with some bag seed first.. your hot water heaters top may be to hot.
the Jiffy pucks come in a small dome for like 12 seedlings and its perfect for small projects.
i use colored tooth picks to mark what seed are what.
I soak a paper towel with plain tap water fold it into a square and stuff that inside a ziploc baggy and then i place the seed between the plastic baggy and wet paper towel.
I roll it up loosely and put it on top of the hot water heater. i come back in 24 hours and 90% of the time they are split and showing a tap root. Then i place the seed into a peat puck and that is inside a small container with a clear plastic dome.
The same thing the jiffy pucks come in. (you could go straight to the jiffy puck.. but i like watching them split open)
i come back in 24 to 48 hours and they are sprouted and at the top of the plastic dome.
I then tear of the paper material that is a around the peat puck and transplant that into a 4 inch pot filled with my moonshine mix... it's a hot soil mix but if everything survives they are good to go.
in the summer time i stick them in a drawer instead on top of the hot water heater.
Practice with some bag seed first.. your hot water heaters top may be to hot.
the Jiffy pucks come in a small dome for like 12 seedlings and its perfect for small projects.
i use colored tooth picks to mark what seed are what.
J
JackTheGrower
Oh reasonable obviously.. If you can a warm white and cool white.
I'm more thinking as they get their first true leaves. Do you know about seedlings and the cotyledons being the "Seed leaves" They are more a food store than a leaf.
I feel that a seedling makes some choices as how best to adapt it's life energy to it's environment.
I feel that flos' are not so dangerous so 4 to 6 inches but I'm going on more about great light for the young plant. Light like HID's I do not know what LED is doing so I have to
I'm on the nutty side and my plants have to deal with a blinding amount of energy right off.. That's the nut in me.. I have seen them unhappy due to the light later they can't help fighting for it.
Remember we all watch and learn.. I love knowing a gardener out there is eyes on while he/she learns.. That's the best kind of friend to help IMO..
My point of gardening view is a big soil box 16 sq ft and 1500 watts of hps and mh in cool tubes.. So in the 90 ish watts per sq ft. Here.. That's on the extreme end.. Not that a mature leaf can't use that much energy
Hey the insert photos is double and triple posting.
I have started mine in soil blocks under flo's in a rubber-maid box that kept humidity in check for the medium. The soil is best damp but seedlings will die from too wet.
I raised them under small flo's and transferred them to soil box right away.. They went top heavy with out a breeze to toughen the stem. A light breeze from a fan help toughen the stalk which is the way to go IMO as it helps with better colas in the end IMO.
You know i feel the stress when i do the simple things like seeds or clones.. Feeding the soil and growing big bud is easy enough but that little seed is so helpless.. That clone may feel like growing roots or not.
So yes some humidity is productive,, Obviously we don't want things to dry out.
How the see grows is genetic related. I have seen some fast sprout and rise genetics and I have seen the slow can barely get out of the seed genetics.
So reasonable care.. See the rubber-maid? I like that box for seedlings. I put some hardware cloth in the bottom and it allows water in the bottom but the soil blocks are above that.. i crack open the lid and the humidity is managed.
Just feel confident and positive.. Think about it seeds fall on the ground and they root themselves.. if your seed is a little covered it will make use of the leverage to sink that tap root. I feel that some seeds need that leverage to push with others don't..
So find some calm and we all will be rooting for you! Pun intended!
Ernst
J
JackTheGrower
Warm is right.. With that Rubber-maid the small flo's made the heat..
Yeah it's a bit tricky but we all find a way we are comfortable. The paper towel is good! Warm water heater is good too..
Nice post!
Remove when shell detached and 1st leaves appear. Be careful removing the roots from the towel. If you need to tear the towel and leave a piece attached to the root.
Water heater good. Drys out quickly so be careful. I leave them right next to the florescent.Raise lights or bend tops when touching. 6500k lights.
Water heater good. Drys out quickly so be careful. I leave them right next to the florescent.Raise lights or bend tops when touching. 6500k lights.
cosmiccowboy
Member
this evenin i checked and the other 4 seeds i had in the paper towels have grown a little white tail..that makes 3 mandala mix and 3 skunk#1 by samtheskunkman that i'll have in beer cups...i appreciate everybodys advice on this. cant wait for one of them to come up..
I don't have any percentages, but my observation suggests males tend to shoot up faster here - not always though. I don't pull anything without knowing for sure (actually I save pollen, so I isolate them after I get some nice clusters starting).
cosmiccowboy
Member
thanks,i'll do that..i've now got all six under fluoros,yipppppppeeeee mickey
redneck shogun
Member
I've thought about making a seedling box but controlling the humidity always seemed like the biggest design hurdle. Fans are so tricky with seedlings, too strong and they fall over and too little then whats the point. I was thinking what would be cool is to have a fan on each side of the seedlings that would be too powerful for them if it was left on for a long time. Then have those fans cycle off and on alternating from both sides for short periods. Or maybe I should just stop trying to reinvent the wheel and be happy with my little fan that seems to do the job pretty well already.
