A graphical representation of what happens after Death

[Classyathome]

http://whathappensafteridie.com/

Finally - now everyone can experience the afterlife - the way it ACTUALLY happens...

Wish I'd found this sooner...

 

[Fat_Zach]

Lol. Quite right I believe.

 

[boroboro]

<!--Live now, for there is nothing in death.-->


That's the first line of the web page code.

 

[Hal]

Perfect for sleeping....

 

[Anti]

Back when I was no longer a true believer, but still looking hard for a reason to become one again, I had a very enlightening conversation with a guy who had been raised by atheist parents.

After talking for a while, I asked him, "So aren't you afraid of death?"

He said, "I won't be around to notice I'm dead. Are you afraid of the time you spent before you were conceived? Being dead is just like that."

 

[Anti]

<!--Live now, for there is nothing in death.-->


That's the first line of the web page code.

I guess that was a little easter egg for the really devoted seekers.

 

[diamondmine]

So for the babies that get raped and killed, murdered left for dead in a dumpster bloody and cold murder, EVIL triumphs!!!!!!!

That's a great outlook, no justice, just...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

 

[Anti]

So for the babies that get raped and killed, murdered left for dead in a dumpster bloody and cold murder, EVIL triumphs!!!!!!!

That's a great outlook, no justice, just...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Homie. I can want very much for no babies to ever get raped, then killed, then murdered, then left for dead in a dumpster, but that won't stop it from happening.

I can pray like hell for god to stop it, but that won't stop it either.

If you can convince God to intervene and prevent all evil, please do so.

(Or you could stop depending on fairy tales and work out a way to contribute to the solution yourself.)

 

[diamondmine]

Homie. I can want like hell for no babies to ever get raped, then killed, then murdered, then left for dead in a dumpster, but that won't stop it from happening.

I can pray like hell for god to stop it, but that won't stop it either.

If you can convince God to intervene and prevent all evil, please do so.

(Or you could stop depending on fairy tales and work out a way to contribute to the solution yourself.)

You can whine all day about my belief in the "easter bunny" but you can't justify the evil that I mentioned unless you believe in God.
So what about the murdered babies??? Boo-hoo for them is the way you believe because they're not coming back according to you. I guess you can't wait to tell your children that their fate is just a flip of a coin. What a sad existence to think this is all there is.

 

[GrnMtnGrwr]

You can whine all day about my belief in the "easter bunny" but you can't justify the evil that I mentioned unless you believe in God.
So what about the murdered babies??? Boo-hoo for them is the way you believe because they're not coming back according to you. I guess you can't wait to tell your children that their fate is just a flip of a coin. What a sad existence to think this is all there is.

What?!

Can you clarify that a bit?

 

[Anti]

You can whine all day about my belief in the "easter bunny" but you can't justify the evil that I mentioned unless you believe in God.

Anybody who thinks I'm whining about diamondmine's beliefs, please give me a "thumbs down" on this post.

And why would I ever want to justify evil? I think evil is evil. (And therefore not good.)

So what about the murdered babies??? Boo-hoo for them is the way you believe because they're not coming back according to you.

I would love to see evidence that these murdered babies are not really dead and live on forever in paradise. Please provide it for me so that I can sleep better at night.

I guess you can't wait to tell your children that their fate is just a flip of a coin. What a sad existence to think this is all there is.

I don't have any children. On purpose. I can't yet promise my potential children that they will live a beautiful life, relatively safe from the dangers from near and abroad. I cannot guarantee them that I can provide them with everything they will need in terms of shelter, sustenance, clothing, security, wisdom, guidance, etc.

I have chosen not to burden this world with any more mouths to feed until I can be reasonably comfortable that I will not be contributing to the evil in this world by so-doing.

But I guess I'm just an unfeeling monster who wants babies to suffer because I refuse to believe in a fairy tale with no reasonable explanation?

How does your belief system help babies? Doesn't it just allow you to pass the buck into some afterlife system of reward and punishment?

The babies aren't suffering anymore because they're with Jesus. (Unless, of course, they weren't baptized.) The people who did it will burn in hell forever, so I needn't be bothered with trying to understand why they do it or trying to prevent it.

Vote now.

 

[xmobotx]

diamondmine's point (i think) is that, essentially, people aren't as evil-willed by nature as some of the more atrocious atrocities seem to represent

it would seem that the devil's influence brings out a far deeper level of evil in those who become easily influenced by the devil

belief in a devil mandates a belief in god (otherwise, why isn't everyone/everything evil?)

 

[Anti]

belief in a devil mandates a belief in god (otherwise, why isn't everyone/everything evil?)

You'll be happy to know that I do not believe in the devil, either.

 

[xmobotx]

lol - i didn't think so

 

[diamondmine]

You just don't get it, the point is you try and scream "Fairy Tales" to me all day because of what I believe. But yet your belief that there is no further existence for innocent dead people is somehow superior because it's not a "fairy tale". In your belief there is no justice, and if there is then Please explain because thus far all you do is run around spouting off about "Fairy Tales". What's your tale? Is it Provable? I guess your just a Zealot too then huh???

 

[Anti]

You just don't get it, the point is you try and scream "Fairy Tales" to me all day because of what I believe. But yet your belief that there is no further existence for innocent dead people is somehow superior because it's not a "fairy tale".

Well, I think that if you have some evidence that heaven exists in some metaphysical sense, I'd be gratified to see it.

My understanding is that Heaven is a state of mind that can be achieved, much like Nirvana. I once believed as you do and then I delved a little deeper. New answers bring more questions. And the journey continues.

In your belief there is no justice, and if there is then Please explain because thus far all you do is run around spouting off about "Fairy Tales".

Justice depends on your morality, doesn't it? I mean, I can point out passages in the bible where God commands the Hebrews to slaughter innocent children, to smile while smashing open the heads of babies. Now, judging from your use of baby killing in your example a few posts back, you and I can agree that this is wrong. But at this point, something breaks down. I look at God rejoicing in the slaughter of babies and think that this is no God I can believe in. This guy is fundamentally flawed and would not be a nice guy to spend eternity with.

What's your tale? Is it Provable?

My tale is that something seems to be HAPPENING here. There are movements which our mind breaks down into ideas, words, symbols, categories, hierarchies, etc. Our mind does this because it cannot process the totality of THE HAPPENING all at once. We aren't evolved to process that much information at one time.

So we break it down into smaller chunks and attempt to quantify as much of it as we can.

(If we can determine a "rule" about life, we don't have to keep conscious notice of things defined within that rule, and can thus spend valuable processing power on new data.)

These rules, symbols, hierarchies and etc. are useful... to a point.

In the end, we must remember that reality is not something to be quantified, but to be experienced. And the experiencing of reality is also a part of the whole movement of the IS.

In the end, we can never know what THE HAPPENING truly is because the moment we step in and start to quantify the happening we have lost our ability to experience it fully.

I guess your just a Zealot too then huh???

Chip On Your Shoulder,
It's weight must be horrific.
Let it go. Breathe Easy.

 

[GrnMtnGrwr]

Justice is a human creation. As is good, and evil. You're asking if a lack of a belief is provable? You're the one that believes in God, Satan, and the afterlife. Why shouldn't you be required to prove that?

 

[xmobotx]

Justice depends on your morality, doesn't it? I mean, I can point out passages in the bible where God commands the Hebrews to slaughter innocent children, to smile while smashing open the heads of babies. Now, judging from your use of baby killing in your example a few posts back, you and I can agree that this is wrong. But at this point, something breaks down. I look at God rejoicing in the slaughter of babies and think that this is no God I can believe in. This guy is fundamentally flawed and would not be a nice guy to spend eternity with

do you have a citation for rejoicing in the slaughter of babies?

on the one hand, you make a good point - in that god did command the slaughter of men women and children - but i dont recall that anyone took any joy in it

i theorize that these slaughterings were a precursor of sorts to a time which is coming when god will destroy all the wicked (perhaps proof that he is willing to do it?)

before anyone gets up in the air about it though keep in mind that it will be god doing the destroying

all the wanton slaughter since old testament times committed by religious organizations is NOT sanctioned by god and evidence that those religions are followers of satan

righteous people are instructed to "let the wicked continue in their way" - a righteous person would be morally inclined to share the good news of god's kingdom - but, when that message is rejected, that is the choice of the individual

 

[Anti]

do you have a citation for rejoicing in the slaughter of babies?

Sure. here's one:

O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is he who repays you
for what you have done to us—
he who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.

Here's another one:

The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords.

That satisfy you?

on the one hand, you make a good point - in that god did command the slaughter of men women and children - but i dont recall that anyone took any joy in it

If Obama commanded the slaughter of men, women and children, he'd be a monster unfit to lead a nation, right? How much worse is it when it is GOD commanding said slaughter? How could you follow such a GOD? Why would you want to?

i theorize that these slaughterings were a precursor of sorts to a time which is coming when god will destroy all the wicked (perhaps proof that he is willing to do it?)

God created the wicked, by creating wickedness. If anyone deserves to be slaughtered for wickedness, it is the source of wickedness. (God.)

 

[xmobotx]

That satisfy you?

maybe if it said "happy is he because"

edit; perhaps it meant "in spite of?"

If Obama commanded the slaughter of men, women and children, he'd be a monster unfit to lead a nation, right? How much worse is it when it is GOD commanding said slaughter? How could you follow such a GOD? Why would you want to?

A) i think it's safe to say that obama has done this inasmuch as we are engaged in conflicts where aerial bombing has cost many men women and children their lives

B) how much worse? it's up to god. ultimately he wants all his followers to be happy. the only people he will destroy are those who would resist others happiness.

God created the wicked, by creating wickedness. If anyone deserves to be slaughtered for wickedness, it is the source of wickedness. (God.)

no, he created sentient beings with a sense of free will/choice

one of them chose to defy him and led humanity into the current state

you might say "god is all-seeing/knowing/etc and therefor foresaw this" and i would then say "well, yes. but, maybe that is just best"

and, how do you know it's not?

this problem came about when satan wanted to be like god and convinced adam and eve they could be as gods also - deciding for themself what is right and wrong

but, as i said above "it's up to god" -only yahwah decides what is right or wrong

BTW, yahwah may not be correct so read: jehovah yehivah yahweh or whatever you feel is the correct pronunciation of the tetragrammaton

but, the YAH part is fairly hard to get away from since it is intact in the greek word allelulia (or I AM as he spoke to moses?)