Need Help And Information

[Smoke_A_Lot]

I found the perfect spot to grow out doors. i have a couple questions for you outdoor gurus.

1. How do you bring in bags of soil and different gear with out looking suspicious.
2. i have about 27 8 pound bags of soil, plus a bale of peat moss, how many plants could i grow with that amount of soil.
3. should i use bag seeds, for my first time or order some seeds.
4. i plan to grow 50 - 100 plants, i have a partner to help me out, is there any tricks to cut down on watering time?
5. i probably have a ton more questions just answer away and i'll think of 'em.

 

[+Vibes]

1- find a safe entry/ exit route... if thats not possible, it probably not a good spot
2- not 50-100... do some soil tests... get lots of perlite
3- depending on lots of things $/location/time/experience etc... get outdoor-friendly fem seeds or a lot of healthy bag-seed plants
4-i would recommend less than 10 (female, flowering) plants... why do you have a partner?.... if you think you want 50-100 plants and you don't know how to water them ..... think again! find a nearby stream or learn about water polymers

5- i think you have more questions for yourself than you do for us... the answers are all here if you know how to look....when you're ready

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[Smoke_A_Lot]

1- find a safe entry/ exit route... if thats not possible, it probably not a good spot
2- not 50-100... do some soil tests... get lots of perlite
3- depending on lots of things $/location/time/experience etc... get outdoor-friendly fem seeds or a lot of healthy bag-seed plants
4-i would recommend less than 10 (female, flowering) plants... why do you have a partner?.... if you think you want 50-100 plants and you don't know how to water them ..... think again! find a nearby stream or learn about water polymers

5- i think you have more questions for yourself than you do for us... the answers are all here if you know how to look....when you're ready

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1. My route is pretty good, it's a biker trail but i plan to stay off the trail obviously, i was thinking of posing as a biker to bring my soil and gear in.

2. like i said i bought bags of quality soil, i'm still not done.. money isn't really a factor. but anyways around my way a alot of pine trees grow.. i read that pine tree soil is around 6.5 PH, and thats good enough for marijuana plant. if not i have lime.

3. i was thinking instead of getting fem seeds that cost an arm and a leg, i have bag seeds that were crossed with both white widow and hashberry. i also have seeds i got from buying bags. this is my first outdoor grow so i don't really want to buy seeds if i have them laying around.

4. i have a family member who i trust to help me out, it's not really about watering the plants, there's streams and ponds near by. i just was wondering if any one had an idea to cut visits when watering. i was thinking of getting 5 gallon paint barrels and drilling holes in it and bury it so it could catch water when it rains.

5. I've been off and on this board for over a couple years, not really a poster but i always visit for info.

but anyways if some one has any ideas to help my grow shoot them my way.

 

[+Vibes]

sorry if i came off a bit harsh...

for my ~40 plants this year i'm using:
12"x18" solar panel >>> deep cycle marine battery (with built in outlet )
i have some cheap-o 1000gph from harbour freight that pulls water from nearby stream,
which then fills a 50 gal tub, i mix nutes in there, or water right off the pump (organics )
... if there ar
never ran out of a charge, only 2 packs in ever, in and out

3. solid crosses there... use the bagseeds too! only advice there, if you have lots of bagseed... is to germ them all! as early as possible... select only the most vigorous, and if you're early enough you'll have lots of strong, happy females to put out


hope that actually helps....

 

[krazay]

I found the perfect spot to grow out doors. i have a couple questions for you outdoor gurus.

1. How do you bring in bags of soil and different gear with out looking suspicious.
2. i have about 27 8 pound bags of soil, plus a bale of peat moss, how many plants could i grow with that amount of soil.
3. should i use bag seeds, for my first time or order some seeds.
4. i plan to grow 50 - 100 plants, i have a partner to help me out, is there any tricks to cut down on watering time?
5. i probably have a ton more questions just answer away and i'll think of 'em.

soil bag size is measure by litres or gallons, not pounds. if soil is sold moist, it would take very small bag to weigh 8 pounds.

try 1 plant for every 50L of soil (13gal) you could go less but probably not less than 5 gallon. soak your seeds in a cup of water until they split then plant 4 or 5 per pot. pull the males and weakest females.

bury pots to avoid high heat in the root zone if you can.

I doubt you will catch enough rain water. the more water you can supply the bigger the mass the plant will be allowed to grow to. you need a nearby stream watering 5gallons for each plant.

then send me some of your finished product

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

1. Go/ deliver at night- at or before daylight/dusk.

2. An inground plant needs 6 gallons of replacement soil = 8 oz's. The soil that pines trees like is a bit acidic for cannabis and needs lime, but more troubling is the fact that pines often grow in shallow, clay heavy soil which wont grow weed without considerable modification. Check it out make sure it drains.

3. I would use a femmed seed of a proven outdoor preformer, as opposed to some fancy fad strain that you know nothing about. The statement, " i hope this strain will finish and grow well here" is solid, indisputable evidence that the wrong strain has been chosen and the grow is based soley on "hope". The perfect recipe for failure.

4. Lesser known than Murphy's Law, is the Jugglers Law. The jugglers law says that regaurdless of the skill of the juggler, the more balls he tries to juggle, the more likely he is to drop them all.
Ten plants well grown can produce more weed than 100 plants half assed. Its just me, but if i were you i would reduce my workload to something more manageable and at the end of the season, you would have a better understanding of what your capacities are. As an individual grower with quite a bit of experience, im not able to grow and tend to more than about 30 plants spread over several different spots. I might be able to grow a few more, but if the need to water arose or if bug infestation was heavy, i would loose the additional plants because even with help it takes a week to get all 30 plants watered. There's just to much work.

Partners are bad news. Rule #1. Tell no one. Rule #2. Repeat rule #1.

I would focus on harvesting 1/2 a dozen well grown plants that pump out a pound or more, but that just me. Good luck on your efforts

 

[facelift]

Look both ways before crossing the street.

 

[chytil151]

take a back pack out filled w/ 1, a folding army shovel,2 tools that you will need during your time out in the woods,3 bring a small dark colored tarp. Find a good spot you can dig a nice hole to bury your tools an ferts. if need be and cover w/ the tarp then fill over that w/ natural debris.

If you feel this is the spot you already have your tools out there,Feel it out make sure you can come and go w/o being detected or your spot being detected. Dig some holes and get ready for plants.

Before you are even at this point you should know how many,plants your putting out at each spot or if going for more than 1 to 5 per spot. soil's should be mixed and ready to go into holes along w/ water crystals and guanos. No blood meals or kelp meals animals love that shit. and ton's and ton's of other objectives need met before you just go and throw 100 seeds out and hope for any shred of anything worth putting in that much work and effort IMO if I were you I would start w/ 2 or 3 and see if you think you can handle 25 then so an 50 to 100 is a lot more than you would think. Just my $.02 cents

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

1. Go/ deliver at night- at or before daylight/dusk.

2. An inground plant needs 6 gallons of replacement soil = 8 oz's. The soil that pines trees like is a bit acidic for cannabis and needs lime, but more troubling is the fact that pines often grow in shallow, clay heavy soil which wont grow weed without considerable modification. Check it out make sure it drains.

3. I would use a femmed seed of a proven outdoor preformer, as opposed to some fancy fad strain that you know nothing about. The statement, " i hope this strain will finish and grow well here" is solid, indisputable evidence that the wrong strain has been chosen and the grow is based soley on "hope". The perfect recipe for failure.

4. Lesser known than Murphy's Law, is the Jugglers Law. The jugglers law says that regaurdless of the skill of the juggler, the more balls he tries to juggle, the more likely he is to drop them all.
Ten plants well grown can produce more weed than 100 plants half assed. Its just me, but if i were you i would reduce my workload to something more manageable and at the end of the season, you would have a better understanding of what your capacities are. As an individual grower with quite a bit of experience, im not able to grow and tend to more than about 30 plants spread over several different spots. I might be able to grow a few more, but if the need to water arose or if bug infestation was heavy, i would loose the additional plants because even with help it takes a week to get all 30 plants watered. There's just to much work.

Partners are bad news. Rule #1. Tell no one. Rule #2. Repeat rule #1.

I would focus on harvesting 1/2 a dozen well grown plants that pump out a pound or more, but that just me. Good luck on your efforts

take a back pack out filled w/ 1, a folding army shovel,2 tools that you will need during your time out in the woods,3 bring a small dark colored tarp. Find a good spot you can dig a nice hole to bury your tools an ferts. if need be and cover w/ the tarp then fill over that w/ natural debris.

If you feel this is the spot you already have your tools out there,Feel it out make sure you can come and go w/o being detected or your spot being detected. Dig some holes and get ready for plants.

Before you are even at this point you should know how many,plants your putting out at each spot or if going for more than 1 to 5 per spot. soil's should be mixed and ready to go into holes along w/ water crystals and guanos. No blood meals or kelp meals animals love that shit. and ton's and ton's of other objectives need met before you just go and throw 100 seeds out and hope for any shred of anything worth putting in that much work and effort IMO if I were you I would start w/ 2 or 3 and see if you think you can handle 25 then so an 50 to 100 is a lot more than you would think. Just my $.02 cents

thanks for the solid advice guys.. i have two female plants flowering as we speak they're about 6 feet tall, very vigorous. could i switch them back to veg and take clones? that would make my job a lot easier because i know I'll have females. but besides that I'll germinate some seeds of mine. especially the bag seed, I'll steal a line off Forrest Gump "Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gonna get". As far as a equipment i have a folding shovel, binoculars, and other goodies. could any one tell me how to rig up a pump? what kind of batteries do i need in order to do that? a link would be very helpful.. and again thanks for the wisdom guys.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

sorry for the double post, i forgot two questions.

1. how much lime do i add to the native soil?
2. i was think about getting a pump like you use for a fish tank, would i be able to splice the cord and connect to a battery? if so what type of battery?

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

You will have to test the ph. Get one of those little test kits with the pills in them.

If the plants are in full flower i would use caution. The flowering of the clones maybe delayed. If they're just going into flower you might be ok.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

come on guys! help a fellow grower out, i'd really love if some of my questions got answered.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

Look both ways before crossing the street.

not being a dick but what does that have to do with my thread?

 

[GrowersUnite]

I think it was to watch out for popo man.

 

[krazay]

sorry for the double post, i forgot two questions.

1. how much lime do i add to the native soil?
2. i was think about getting a pump like you use for a fish tank, would i be able to splice the cord and connect to a battery? if so what type of battery?

1. use lots of lime, a good handful every pot. you can't over dose with lime it can only raise the ph to a maximum of 7.

2. dude were not raising fish here, you need an industrial water pump that can pump at least 100 ft of head, powered by a car battery.

i think the pump is a little over your head. maybe like the other guy said stick to something smaller u can finish. pack the water in with 5gal jugs or wedge a garden hose in some rocks in the creek and gravity feed.

 

[krazay]

you take the clones and switch them to 24hr light and you might get lucky and they might root and veg.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

1. use lots of lime, a good handful every pot. you can't over dose with lime it can only raise the ph to a maximum of 7.

2. dude were not raising fish here, you need an industrial water pump that can pump at least 100 ft of head, powered by a car battery.

i think the pump is a little over your head. maybe like the other guy said stick to something smaller u can finish. pack the water in with 5gal jugs or wedge a garden hose in some rocks in the creek and gravity feed.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU! rep for you man.. thanks a million

 

[krazay]

yeah no problem. i'm in guerilla mode right now so i'm thinkin. just dashed a bunch of bags into the bush this morning. before all the brush grows in and shit.

hows your spot for light? water source nearby?
site selection is a bitch thats the hardest part i swear

 

[Big Foot]

I found the perfect spot to grow out doors. i have a couple questions for you outdoor gurus.

1. How do you bring in bags of soil and different gear with out looking suspicious. Bring the soil at night hide them in the woods near your plot, next day carry the soil to the plot.
2. i have about 27 8 pound bags of soil, plus a bale of peat moss, how many plants could i grow with that amount of soil.
Might wanna get some organic compost also depending on your plant size container size will differ, usally 30 gallons per plant is enough.
3. should i use bag seeds, for my first time or order some seeds.
If you live down south were finish time isnt much of an issue bag seed could be used, but its better to buy quality beans.
4. i plan to grow 50 - 100 plants, i have a partner to help me out, is there any tricks to cut down on watering time? Poly crystals, multch good soil. I honestly wouldn't tackle 50-100 plants if its your first grow, I would recommend no more than 15, you could waste a lot of time and money.
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YEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

yeah no problem. i'm in guerilla mode right now so i'm thinkin. just dashed a bunch of bags into the bush this morning. before all the brush grows in and shit.

hows your spot for light? water source nearby?
site selection is a bitch thats the hardest part i swear

i have a ton of swamps and ponds near by so water isn't a problem at all. i have an idea of the spot where i wanna grow but the weather hasn't been treating me right enough to go there and get stuff going.
but i know plants are suppose to face south because that's where all the light is.