Grandma's Molasses?

[IllEagle007]

I got to admit I never heard of anyone giving there plant Molasses so I decided to have a look. I have a brand called Grandmas all natural, unsulphured Molasses. Is this Ok for me to use on my flowering super lemon haze? They are like 1 month in 12/12?

 

[IC BUDZ]

unfortunatly granmas molasses sucks go to any local supermarket near you and go to the whole foods isle or natural isle and look around for the natural molasses you want BLACK STRAP molasses
black strap isnt the brand its just thicker molasses
you might find a brand called plantation molasses, brer rabbit, and/ or wholesome sweateners organic molasses.
hope this helps also
most people over do it with the molasses only about 1 tsp per gallon every or everyother watering will do it.

 

[ColBatGuano]

Try to find a brand of unsulphured Blackstrap Molasses which has no sodium. Some of the cheaper supermarket brands of BSM, like Brer Rabbit, aren't as nutrient-dense. You don't want to be giving your soil anything it doesn't need. BSM is an excellent source of several minerals, and sugars which benefit soil microbes. It is also a classic plant food, so many people use it--just don't overdo it. I use it at 1tsp per gallon in compost tea. It will not harm your plants.

 

[IllEagle007]

OK I will have to take a look then. After I made this thread I did a search and people actually do use this Grandmas stuff.

 

[IC BUDZ]

yeah i know i used grandmas also trust me it just doesnt have the stuff the other brands do.the diffrence is
brer rabbit has
25% magnesium
25%iron
250mg potassium
20%calcium

wholesome sweeteners has
magnesium 8%
iron 15%
730mg potassium
115mg calcium

now compare these to grandmas

 

[IllEagle007]

Ok Ok I see

Grandmas is weak sauce!

2% Magnesium
4% Iron
150mg Potassium
4% Calcium

 

[IllEagle007]

If I buy the better stuff can this be used as a substitute for Cal Mag?

 

[Directrix]

Ok Ok I see

Grandmas is weak sauce!

2% Magnesium
4% Iron
150mg Potassium
4% Calcium

it doesn't actually matter. it's all micro nutes anyways. I read the molasses is just a catalyst for the natural enzymes and carbohydrates in the soil.

any molasses that's unsulphured will work, just for the record I do use rabbits. it's cheap as hell anyways.

 

[mk6]

I have used wholesome for years, (1tsp per gal) check the lable no sodium, and plenty of micros ect... and its cheap too - like 8 bucks at the wholefoods store

 

[Chief]

grandma has a variety "robust" thats closer to blackstrap. its a green label

 

[B. Friendly]

sugars are crazy important. molasses is not the best tho. Plants create sugars naturally by adding them to a well balanced feeding program complex sugars will greatly improve your crop. Your plant uses these complex sugars as its energy to build it self. You need Fructose & Glucose along with Fulvic and Humic acids for optimal plant growth.
Check out GH's FloraNectar and Diamond Nectar or AN's Carboload.

 

[Chief]

yeah i was just wondering about complex carbohydrates and simple sugars for plants. Molasses is mainly simple sugars and by your post i take we want complex suagrs. Id love more info if you have any.

 

[B. Friendly]

yeah i was just wondering about complex carbohydrates and simple sugars for plants. Molasses is mainly simple sugars and by your post i take we want complex suagrs. Id love more info if you have any.

check out the magazine "maximum yield" for february 2008 canadian edition, page 40 titled "why use sugary supplements"

 

[ColBatGuano]

sugars are crazy important. molasses is not the best tho. Plants create sugars naturally by adding them to a well balanced feeding program complex sugars will greatly improve your crop. Your plant uses these complex sugars as its energy to build it self. You need Fructose & Glucose along with Fulvic and Humic acids for optimal plant growth.
Check out GH's FloraNectar and Diamond Nectar or AN's Carboload.

Fructose and glucose are both simple carbohydrates. They are combined to form sucrose. Glucose comes in two forms. Its simplest form, L-glucose, it is not a biologically active substance. It cannot be used as a source of energy. Dextrose is the active form of glucose. Plants make glucose during photosynthesis, they do not "eat" it. They can't eat it because there is no specific transporter for sucrose in the roots of plants, cannabis or otherwise. It is not needed because sucrose does not naturally occur in soil. Plants evolved to produce their own sucrose--they do not get it from external sources. When they make enough glucose and fructose, they will convert the excess into sucrose, and store it in their leaves as starch for use at a later time (during dark periods.)

Photosynthesis is how sucrose gets into sugar cane, which is what is in molasses. Blackstrap molasses is the third boiling of sugar cane juice, which retains many of the trace minerals which occur naturally in sugar cane, but which are removed to make refined products like cane sugar and white sugar (which are just sucrose.) All those expensive carbo-loading products aren't a whole lot different than molasses, and they certainly aren't anything more than sucrose. They just have everyone convinced that they are some special formula a plant can actually use. Mostly, molasses and all those carbo supplements are used to feed the microherd of organisms in the food soil web around the roots of plants. That is all. It will not be taken up by the plant.

Fulvic and humic acids are not sugars, nor do they have any effect on the photosynthesis which makes glucose in plants. They are micro nutrient chelators.

I highly recommend the site http://www.biology-online.org/ for all growers. You might save yourself a lot of bother by better understanding the flora kingdom. I went for fauna biology when I studied the science, and I'm now just brushing-up on botany. I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the plant better.

 

[Zendo]

sugars are crazy important. molasses is not the best tho. Plants create sugars naturally by adding them to a well balanced feeding program complex sugars will greatly improve your crop. Your plant uses these complex sugars as its energy to build it self. You need Fructose & Glucose along with Fulvic and Humic acids for optimal plant growth.
Check out GH's FloraNectar and Diamond Nectar or AN's Carboload.

Hey man, just a heads up...AN's Carboload IS molasses..watered down with a fancy label...

There is a reason that trying to find AN's nutrient sources is so hard, because they don't want people to find out that they are overpaying for everything..

Most company's that sell "Carbo" anything, is rebottled molasses.

 

[ColBatGuano]

Hey man, just a heads up...AN's Carboload IS molasses..watered down with a fancy label...

There is a reason that trying to find AN's nutrient sources is so hard, because they don't want people to find out that they are overpaying for everything..

Most company's that sell "Carbo" anything, is rebottled molasses.

Even Liquid Karma is just a bit of molasses blended with sea flora and humates. At least Botanicare lists it as an ingredient.

 

[Chief]

Thanks for the article nice read.


That article was very vague in areas and overly done in others.

Basically it said added sugar and brix levels went up. They didnt give any numbers. With an explanation of carbs and photosynthesis as filler. didnt say anything as how the plant uses them in the soil.

There was maybe 2 mentions of the soil a

i think added carbs indirectly let the plant syhnthesise more its own sugars

Im still curious if complex carbs are better than sthe simple sugar we see in molasses for the soil family. Maybe the botled carb products are more than just molasses. As we all know how much more benificial and healthy complex carbs are compared to sugar for the human body.

but hey sugars is simple quick fuel right, so maybe it is the best

i dunno im stoned and trying to learn

 

[B. Friendly]

I highly recommend the site http://www.biology-online.org/ for all growers. You might save yourself a lot of bother by better understanding the flora kingdom. I went for fauna biology when I studied the science, and I'm now just brushing-up on botany. I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the plant better.

Gracias now i will know what i am talking about.

 

[sackoweed]

IDK it might just be me but, i did not notice any difference in my gurls after feeding molasses. In growth, harvest, taste odor anything... Again maybe its just me... Good luck peace..

sackO

 

[Chief]

The one article was funny
http://www.biology-online.org/articles/growing-rice-water.html

(SRI) method has helped increase yields by over 30% .............ensuring wider spacing between rice seedlings; preferring composts or manure to synthetic fertilizers; and managing water carefully to avoid that the plants’ roots are not saturated.

The method was initially developed in the 1980s in Madagascar and has been demonstrated to be effective in 28 countries.