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[ChaosCatalunya]

my 4 psychosis babys lol

under a 600w in a 120cm sq darkroom . going to flower on wendsday after 4 weeks 12/12 will add a extra 400w

A nice healthy bunch there cheesey ;-)

I have searched this thread, found plenty of mentions of Psychosis, but not learned a lot about her.... people saying they suspect she is a NL5xHaze pheno ? IMO that is quite a distinctive plant, has anybody who has grown both got an opinion on this ?

Any tips on how to care for her ? Dialing in ?

NL5xHaze is one of my alltime faves, if Psychosis is an elite clone of this, then it should be pretty damn special ?

I have been offered the cut by one of my buddies back home, was wondering how well she would go outdoors in Spain, plants with various Haze genes in them seem to do well surviving the Autumn rains.

 

[indifferent]

Psychosis is nothing like NL5Haze, sorry. It's probably a Cheese cross as it's pretty cheesy, looks like cheese and similar taste/high, but others know her better than I do in here and can chime in, I think she's very similar to the Suicide Cheese cut.

There is an old NL5Haze cut that fuckin rocks that is held by ot1's crew.
X18 eh rick, hope you find a nice one. I got one deep chunk (old seed, 1 popped and grew) and it's pissin me off, 2 months veg and it's 4 nodes, working on the fifth, no damn vigour. Put it into flower a few days ago and it's growing a tad faster, most indica looking thing I've ever seen, the leaves are all rippled and funky, like cabbage.

 

[englishrick]

yeh man,,,everyone hates the veg-speed,,,,,i wonder how that same clone would react to an NFT system,,,,,,,,,,

im gona be runnin this batch of X18 seeds in an oldchool rockwool system,,,once i take a bunch of clones il probbly run the best on NFT,,,,,,,,,


ive got some blood viles and silica ready for the polen to be stoored,,,,,il save you some

 

[indifferent]

Cool man, my DC might be male so I might have to send you some of his dust.

I don't think hydro will make much difference, seen Dc done in coco before which is hydro and it still grew really slowly.

 

[englishrick]

i love hitting roots with liquid O2 when plants are grown in rockwool, i can get cubes rocketing with fluffy-white rootgrowth in hours,,,"groth technologys" products bring back good memorys, Ionics is oldschool,,,,,i used to be a very good rockwool grower,,,,,NFT and CannaAqua just took all the effort outa everything,,,,

 

[englishrick]

imo,,,,,NFT is very different in comparison to coco,,,, pot culture can never mesure up to NFT,DWC,Airoponics,,,etc,,,,,NFT trays offer plants unlimeted rootspace,,,,

an imo ,,filming the roots also tells the plant that its reached water and it stops exessive energy being used to grow roots,,,,the yeald is amazing,,,an i believe i can achieve better taste than any soil grow ive ever tryed,,,

 

[DocLeaf]

Psychosis is nothing like NL5Haze, sorry. It's probably a Cheese cross as it's pretty cheesy, looks like cheese and similar taste/high, but others know her better than I do in here and can chime in, I think she's very similar to the Suicide Cheese cut.

We witnessed several Thai traits in Psychosis,, likely from NL heritage... nice clone,, produces longer lower lateral branches than Cheese does...

Glasshouse grown...

HPS grown

If someone told us Psychosis was Cheese x Northern Lights ,, we'd probably buy into it

Keep overgrowing it UK crew,, this year we're taking the scene back !!!

 

[Londinium]

ChaosC, ola....I would have to agree with Indi about 'Psychosis' I have grown a lot of her and she is in my opinion nowt to do with NL5H...In fact I can see zero similarity at all between the Psy and any pheno of NL5H I have ever tried.It would have to be a real 'sport' if that was the case.I can see NL as a poss but see no Haze at all in her.
She is very much more likely to be a Cheese cross than that and I once had a SuperSkunk that had similar traits(but not that similar that I really think so)and some Pheno's of old SilverPearl used to have a similar pungency and looked the part also. She is deffo a skunk hybrid of some kind from the early to mid 90's.i was always told by my first source that it was a Greater London Area cut that was given(or returned if its a cheese hybrid)to Exodus amongst others. She's quite like Cheese but I like the buzz better and the taste better as well...as a sidenote one of my crew is drying a plant of TuttiFruiti from a cut I aquired recently and I'm sorry to break it to Indi and EM et al but its yet another diff but very similar to Cheese/Psyco cut as far as we can tell so far,was hoping it was gonna be more 'sweetshop' than it is...Nice plant but bit disappointed really...I will post some pics of the TF in a few days.. JBo

 

[indifferent]

Super Skunk, you know, I could totally believe Pszychosis was Super Skunk.

Problem with guessing the strain with these cuts is they are all related because they all come from a narrow genepool and contain the same skunk, NL, afghani genes just in different combinations.

Blues
Livers
Exodus Cheese
Berry Cheese
Suicide Cheese
Psychosis
Tutti Frutti
The Smelly One

You'd have to be a proper nerd to be able to sit down and differentiate between all those, they are all similar in a broad sense, could be considered a loose 'family' I guess.

I find it wierd that these cuts constitute 90% of the cuts we tend to talk about from the UK, people must be growing some other great cuts but where the hell are they? Everyone can't be growing a skunk/afghan type, surely?

Last couple of years I have come across a very nice NL5Haze but i think the cut is closely held, the Santa Maria cut from Holland is quite widely held, but I don't see much else that has been around years, there is that coca-cola bud that seems to have been around years, that might be another NLHaze type as you can get a coca cola like flavour from the Haze A hybrids, the Haze A was a spicy colombian pheno so when combined with the sweetness of NL can be a bit like coca cola.

Anyone grown the Bristol Black Kush? I heard someone mention that on here ages ago, not seen any pics, supposed to be a very nice selected Hindu Kush, sounds like something I'd like to try.

And where did all the NL go? There used to be a lot of NL being grown ,where did the cuts dissappear to?

Maybe they are now called 'Cheese' or something else, fuck knows! lol

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Thanks for all the info and input guys, mucho appreciado, not totally sure where the NL5xH idea came from.... probably some speculation in this thread many moons ago ;-)

From everything I can see and read, it is not a NL5xH, but sounds like she may be worth getting, checking out. I am a massive Cheese lover and have a couple of crosses I have made that I am growing out now, she really does seem to add a strong stink to most of what she touches. Less funny was me nearly getting nicked last week in supposedly "Legal" Spain due to the lingering stench from a J.

One of the locals here was telling me about how his Cheese plant could be smelt from "200meters away, it was so funny, nobody could work out where the smell was coming from"

 

[chizzleonetime]

And where did all the NL go? There used to be a lot of NL being grown ,where did the cuts dissappear to,,,, funny you say that, i just got rid of mine ... too old skool now and the cut i had was the super sweet average potency low stinker it was just a little bland

 

[indifferent]

Massive Cheese lover eh? You'll like Psychosis then, it's pretty close. Yields better supposedly, definitely has better bud density.

Cheese and it;s obvious weed stench is just not compatiable with an illegal situation imho, had a couple of near misses with getting my grow bust due to the smell of cheese.

 

[chizzleonetime]

i know a couple of peeps who have been jacked at gunpoint because they wouldnt listen to my flower one small cheese/blues plant for personals rule, when i know i have a cut thats something smelly i only run a small cut to test the water,,, haha my mate recentely had to prematurely take a grow down half way thru flower because the next door neighbours started ringing builders out because they couldnt work out what the nasty smell coming from there attic was, even said to my mate have you got any strange smells in the upstairs of your house..... he chopped and moved the lights quick enough

 

[indifferent]

Cheese will never get in my garden again, doubt any of the other similar cuts will either, don't like em and the smell, well, it would have to be some very special weed to justify the risk and I don't care for it at all so why take the risk?

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

i know a couple of peeps who have been jacked at gunpoint because they wouldnt listen to my flower one small cheese/blues plant for personals rule, when i know i have a cut thats something smelly i only run a small cut to test the water,,, haha my mate recentely had to prematurely take a grow down half way thru flower because the next door neighbours started ringing builders out because they couldnt work out what the nasty smell coming from there attic was, even said to my mate have you got any strange smells in the upstairs of your house..... he chopped and moved the lights quick enough

Massive Cheese lover eh? You'll like Psychosis then, it's pretty close. Yields better supposedly, definitely has better bud density.

Cheese and it;s obvious weed stench is just not compatiable with an illegal situation imho, had a couple of near misses with getting my grow bust due to the smell of cheese.

Cheese will never get in my garden again, doubt any of the other similar cuts will either, don't like em and the smell, well, it would have to be some very special weed to justify the risk and I don't care for it at all so why take the risk?

Many thanks for all the info, feedback and tips ppl, I totally understand the troubles of growing Cheese and her crosses in the UK, Spain as ever, is a Ying and a Yang place, one of the Yings is the freedom to grow more weed in more space with no real paranoias regarding Police... the Yang is security & robbers. You are normally encouraged to "deal with" robbers yourself, however, if you do this over some borderline legal plants, very not. Ying and a Yang again...

Thanks for the info, I think I will grab the Psychosis cut on my trip home after all, it will be very interesting to test her out against my new cross. The first seed grown out of this, 100+ waiting... is stronger and way yieldier than Cheese, but still has a lot of the humongous STENCH. Sorry guys and gals, not exactly extending the gene pool, or puddle in the UKs case, but I like it. I do however, have a cunning plan.... ;-)

And where did all the NL go? There used to be a lot of NL being grown ,where did the cuts dissappear to,,,, funny you say that, i just got rid of mine ... too old skool now and the cut i had was the super sweet average potency low stinker it was just a little bland

LOL, I too "just got rid of mine" .... quick flowering, reasonably strong, low stinker, and, yes, just a little bland. There is so much better around I could not be bothered with her. I have not heard of NL being offered by "clone people" for a while now, Chiesels seem to be popular now, I picked up 2 different ones on my last trip.

 

[Elevator Man]

I heard of another rip-off around here only the other day - about a 40oz crop taken the day before harvest. One guy held the poor hippie against a wall, whilst the others chopped and bagged it - no-one spoke at all apparently.

When his grow-partner looked into it, it turned out he'd shown the grow to one guy who was a 'wrong 'un', and that the stink leaking into the street confirmed it to them - he was growing the mystery strain (aka 'smelly one'), so no surprise there.

Not sure what the police 'encourage' folks to do in the UK, but someone will walk straight into a shotgun one day if it carries on like this...

 

[englishrick]

new growers never understand the problems of showing even 1 person,,,,,i usaly create a devide,,,,,if i can i do everything on my own, an i never tell people i grow weed in the real world,,,im dumb in the real world ,,,,,,,

"hash,,,you what!,,,,,,,how do you make hash"?????

 

[chizzleonetime]

i dont go telling anyone , but all my mates who grow know but we keep it tight! , golden rule is wanna see mine show me yours ... that way if you get taxed by them you can go and tax theres

 

[englishrick]

thats not the way i play it,,,,,thats the sorta thing that gives me heart problems,,,,,,id say them people are skint,,,too desperate for me to chat to,,id blank em,,,,,,

i know nothing,,i see nothing,,,how is hash made?,

 

[EddieShoestring]

here's a Bristol Black Kush-i've got some flowering shots in my old gallery but haven't worked out which ones they are yet (durrrr what a duffer eh?)

it's a wierd plant in that it looks and grows like a sat -super stretchy-thin sat like leaves esp in flower-long flowering times (although lots of kiddies chop it at 8)-but the hit is super heavy indica-knock out go to sleep sort of thing. It is one of those cuts that is exceptionally smelly-

one of our crew have some atm at 11 weeks-i will try to get some pics before he chops it. There are lots of wild and wonderful stories about it's origin-including tales of dudes treking across the Himalayers-through India-all over the place and bringing back seeds but a few years ago i met the crew who started the whole thing in the mid/late 90's and it turned out to be a sport from a pack of Sensi HKush. At one point, when some peeps got nicked, there was just one room with them in-someone had a timer failure and they had a few days in flower and re-veged them-apparently the smell was subtly different after that. The smell is fruity, kushy, but when grown properly it has a strong graphite aroma that seems to coat the mouth and throat leaving strong taste after smoking.

Sometimes the pistils go pink-don't quite know why but it's not just a temperature thing and there can be lots of deep purple/black leaves particularly if left for over 10wks.
I think that the fact that there is sooo little about this cut online illustrates how unrepresentative forums are compared to what happens in the RW (real world) as virtually everyone who is in the loop in town-and hundreds who are not-have grown and treasured this cut.

re-the rippers. They are closing down more ops than the cops ever could-mofo's

cheers
eddieS