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[indifferent]

Highland Oaxacan Gold is getting there, I am flushing her heavily and will probably take her down in another week. The UV and Blue has definitely amped up the smell, she really stinks compared to previous runs, it's not easy to describe the smell, it's woodsy, piney, fuelly, really really nice, the fuel smell surprises me, she smells like petrol a bit, that's it, pine scented petrol! Cannot wait to smoke this one, see how the high has been affected.

 

[Blimey]

That sounds very promising....

Was the original cut grown from seed here in Blighty? Do you have a description of the smell when grown in its natural habitat (i.e. high altitude, with loads of UV exposure)?

Just trying to gauge if you are getting a more "natural" / outdoorsy expression with this very specific light profile you are giving it.....

 

[indifferent]

Yes, the original was grown from seed by Elevator Man.

The best description I can think of would be from DJ Short:

The Oaxaca Highland Gold, somewhat similar to the Colombian Gold, lacked bright gold color but sported purple and red calyx tips on its blondish-brownish-green buds. It had larger buds surrounded by long, skinny leaves. It was a nearly pure Sativa which grew tall at 45°N, outdoors. It was also one of the most symmetrical Sativas I have encountered. The plants grew long side branches toward the bottom, and the even growth made these productive beauties look like Christmas trees when mature.

The Finished Product: A very sweet and spicy herb of the highest quality, with a hint of fruity pine aroma. ) A certain, unmistakable flavor comes to mind: that of incense cedar/frankincense/burgundy/floral with spicy/savory undertones. Coffee, chocolate and fine tobacco were also present, but the sweet incense cedar is what I most recall from the Highland Oaxaca. It produced the most desirable finished product, in my opinion, and has yet to be replicated to my complete satisfaction. The seeds for this variety were small, dark and round, and the plants exhibited slight signs of hermaphroditism and required surveillance to maintain seedlessness.

The High: A long lasting, creeper high that kept coming on in waves over the hours, this stuff had no ceiling. One phenomenon consistently reported from the Highland Oaxaca experience was that of peripheral visual distortions of primarily cartoon color images. This tended to increase the visual distortions caused by other psychedelics such as mushrooms or LSD.

Smoke Report:
I smoked this variety during brief periods in the early 70's and again in the late 70's, paying anywhere between $40 and $120 per ounce. It was some of my all-time favorite because the aroma and flavor were of a super-spicy cedar incense with a slight fermented berry taste, in a very comfortable yet powerfully psychedelic pot. This herb contributed to many great parties, concerts and events of the era because it produced a very socially-conscious experience and mixed well with other psychedelics.

Highland Oaxaca Gold vs. Chocolate Thai:
The Highland Oaxaca was structurally a different strain (tall, with a definite main-stem, symmetric with less hermaphroditism and better formed buds). The two were crossed and the resulting seeds produced the famed Purple Thai that I was able to use for quite awhile. The Purple Thai exhibited the symmetry and desirability of the Oaxaca with the potency and dark coloration of the Chocolate Thai–the best of both worlds, and its hermaphroditism was much more manageable. It also cloned well. The plants from these seeds also passed the test of equal or improved quality progeny in terms of finished product. Personally I preferred the finished product of the Purple Thai to the Chocolate, not just due to its growth patterns but in terms of the overall effect.

I have definitely smelt cedar and incense and spice in her when I've smoked her in the past, there is cedar there now, I called it pine, it's definitely woodsy, but also got that fuelly quality, it is sort of sweet, which is why it's a nice smell, there is a hint of pear drops/acetone in there as well.

This cutting has several traits as DJ describes - it shows main stem dominance, no matter how you prune it, one cola is always dominant. Also, it is highly symetrical just as DJ says and does grow long branches that produce nice buds too, a very productive plant.

Also, she does sport red and purple calyx tips as DJ says, not just this time but on other times she has been grown, and the seeds are tiny, dark and round. He was right about the slight hermpahrodism too, you can see a nanner or two in my pictures.

I'm absolutely sure she is an authentic Oaxacan, probably very similar to the plants used to make Blueberry and Skunk, you can see how Skunk inherited a lot of traits from the Mexican part of it's genes.

I've kept a cut of a Purple Thai male, which is Thai x Purple Afghan and I'm going to cross it to the HOG before long. I also intend to cross the Durban Poison male I've found to the HOG at some point.

 

[indifferent]

Here are some pics from 5 days agpoo, the UC CFL is only shining on one side of the plant, and that side has purple calyxes, the areas closest to the bulb being the most purple. The other side, which has not been saturated in UV is still green.

 

[indifferent]

I decided to run two cuttings of the same strain side by side with one in soil and the other in coco to see what the difference in yield would be. These have been fed exactly the same and were the same size when I put them into flower, which was as soon as they had rooted out of the jiffies. This is the white rhino cutting that hermied last time, and it has started growing male flowers again this time so I chopped them early, it's not a good yielder and is a bit picky on nutes so I overfed them a tad. It smells pretty funky, like an old stinky Afghan.

The coco one is huge compared to the soil one, yield is probably 5x as much. I'm absolutely shocked at how big the difference is, they are both in 3.5 litres pots and the only differecne was the medium. I have to put this down to the greater ion-cation exchange (CEC) of coco, obvioucly the coco plant has taken up way more nutrients.

 

[Blimey]

If that last pic isn't an advert for switching to coco, I don't know what is!

I'd heard the old cliche of "You'll double your yields in coco" many times.....but that is just shocking.....awe-inspiring.

 

[Hazyfontazy]

i got some dm feminizer here if u want it,the new max is diff to teh old 1 ,lets hopes its at least as good

 

[indifferent]

Ah, good call, I'll have to give the feminiser a whirl next time I run the Oaxacan, the Rhino is gone, piece of crap imho, the seeds can't have been Mr Nice originals, I just had a few in a bag labelled 'white rhino' in my own handwriting, christ knows where I got em!

They have changed Max Bloom? I know ADD.27 is their new 'Gold' version of the Max Bloom, it says is has everything that's in Max but with extra other stuff added.

 

[JamieShoes]

The coco one is huge compared to the soil one, yield is probably 5x as much. I'm absolutely shocked at how big the difference is....

I can't stop chuckling

 

[indifferent]

Now now, size isn't everything! Was it a size related funny thought that tickled ya or just the victory of coco?

However, if further proof were needed that coco absolutely destroys soil for growth potential, have a look at my first coco attempt at the Jack:



Here is the previous run of it in soil, much smaller:





I'm not certain, but it looks to me like the coco one has more resin too, I bet it yields at least double what the last soil one did.

 

[JamieShoes]

hehe was a coco related chuckled for sure... although the schoolboy side of me did have a little giggle as well

 

[Elevator Man]

Just been giving this its second trim, and the smell really is pure lemon/grapefruit/fuel X OG dankness - I guess we finally have a comparison now. Tried a tiny dry bit in a one-skinner, and it's not that tasty yet, but seems to work OK. The yield looks reasonable, and in a larger pot, I think this would definitely hold up as a commercial (ie heavier) version of the OGK - nice one...

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Hey guys...I'm contemplating Coco for this years greenhouse fun...would you say that's a wise move?

 

[indifferent]

That sounds very nice Eman, have to run your cut and my cut side-by-side some time.

Hello mr Monk, thanks for popping in. Coco outdoors works really good, I suggest looking at bonecarver_og's threads about hand watering coco outdoors in Spain.

If you see anything in this thread you fancy running outdoors, let me know and I'll be delighted to share, I got a bunch of outdoor seeds I can spare too, be very pleased to see em gracing your greenhouse.

Auto watering with coco outdoors would be awesome, would give you huge yields compared to soil, and if you flush with plain water last 3 weeks and feed some organic taste enhancers like molasses and bat guano in mid flower, you can get pretty much the same quality as a soil grow.

I happen to have a Hozelock auto watering kit for 10 plants I bought last year and never used, I could be persuaded to part with it, actually I want shot of it cos I'm having an early spring cleaning this year!

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Very generous of you! I'm pretty stacked up with seeds (or will be hopefully) but there's always room for more!

If the coco requires constant watering that may be an issue...also your lovely hose kit (again very generous) may prove too obvious for the neighbours!

Certainly will consider the coco

 

[indifferent]

With coco, you have to water it daily to get the maximum performance, but it isn;t necessary, you can water them every few days if they are in big pots, all you will lose is some yield and size.

If you can get away with having a small water butt, say a 120 litre slimline one or a 200litre standard, you just connect the hose kit to that and refill the butt say once a week when it is getting low, the ec and ph of the solution will stay fine as you will be running to waste. They are Hozelock Aquapods, only about the size of a coffee can.

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Sounds interesting...

 

[itsmysubaru]

indifferent, thanks for pointing me over here. you've got a nice clean setup too mate, plenty of firepower, and sick genetics! love the pics thru the entire thread.

how about some new shots of what you've got going? im running a little bit of UV, too; definitely makes a difference.

 

[indifferent]

Sadly I loaned my cam to my dad so can't shoot any pics right now, but i will be posting updates when I get it back. Got some nice Durbans so show and a couple more Africans I suspect are Nigerian. I've removed the UV to make way for other lighting, will probably be putting it back but in a different position. I've fitted some 10k actinic 24w tubes for blue supplementation to make more terpenoids and some 18W CFLs to fill in the dim spots in the corners, I have some more CFL ballasts and am debating about adding them too, just need to grab some more bulbs. It's not 100% finished yet, largely cos the waterproof electrical junction boxes I ordered haven't arrived so it's connected up in a pretty heath robinson method right now and not exactly upto proper safety standards, I've just wrapped electrical insulating tape round the connecting blocks.

What sort of UV lamp are you using? I'm hoping find a fairly cheap source for the phillips 2 foots UVB tubes, the only source I found so far wants nearly 50ukp for one!

 

[itsmysubaru]

i use a reptiglo 10.0 desert cfl bulb, 26 watts. you can search for reptiglo or reptisun. both make t5 lamps and spirals, i think. one in each corner would probably give u a good balance.

bummer about the camera, will be waiting to see how it looks!