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DARC MIND

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hmm i never used it in coffee, i use that stevia (i think) called truvia
id give agave a try and yea way sweeter then honey. you only need a small bit and wow
 

mad librettist

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I drink it black but my wife likes agave nectar in hers. Recently at the store we saw light, amber, and also RAW agave (looks like molasses). We didn't get it, but I think I will next time.

If you are grilling meat or pan frying, try agave in your marinade. Oil, agave, a bit of vinegar, a bit of fruit juice, no salt. Marinate for an hour. Pat dry and rub with oil before cooking. I just did some venison ham that way. Yum!
 

jaykush

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i use homemade willow rooting powder or honey if i can get the fresh stuff.
 

Clackamas Coot

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jaykush

I have a willow tree on our property. How would I go about making a rooting powder, i.e. I have bark, leaves, shoots, etc.

Thanks for any input!

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dub 6

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here are two very simple ways that require minimal necessities..

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from the pic above all you need is the heating mat, 55 site starter and tray

what i did was cut that tray into 6 site sections or however many clones i need.

what you do is fill the sites with perlite and put it in a tray of similar area with water in it (for the 6 sites i use baby wipe containers). after the perlite soaks up the water, pack it down and refill the tray about 1/2 way up the site cone (half of the cone site, full of perlite, will be submerged under water). i put a few drops of lk in the tray and sit that on the heating pad. poke holes with a chop stick, stick the cut in there and pack it tight. i dont use any gels or anything, just cut on the angle and peel a node all the way down. the key for me is to have that peeled node location submerged in the perlite. dont fuck with it for like a week, only to refill the water when you see its low. when you notice they are growing, you know you got roots. 100% success for me.

the other way i do it is to take a jar and fill it with water, add a couple drops of lk, take the cut and sit it in there. i leave that in the corners of my flower room (cuz i usually take cuts when i see flowers) and forget about it for week or 2.. most have roots. i take what i need and throw the rest away. so i guess this is 100% too. same thing with the peeled node location submerged. try not to get the leaves wet tho. i usually put saran wrap over the jar and poke holes. again no gels or anything. when i take cuts i sometimes put the end of the cut in my mouth wit some saliva just to prevent the air bubble from forming, while i prepare the jar or poke holes.

both require minimal light and light proof areas where the roots will be.
 

Clackamas Coot

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dub 6

Sounds like a fantastic product and process.

OTOH I'm only growing 5 MMJ plants so it's probably overkill for my needs.

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jaykush

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jaykush

I have a willow tree on our property. How would I go about making a rooting powder, i.e. I have bark, leaves, shoots, etc.

Thanks for any input!

oops did i say powder, im sorry didnt mean to.

the way i do it is. take some fresh growth tips. chop up into tiny pieces, add to water+ LAB culture. let sit for 2 days. then use that water to keep your rooting medium moist. which for me is wormcastings + sand.

i wonder though if we could make our own powder.hmmm thats got me thinking.
 

Clackamas Coot

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oops did i say powder, im sorry didnt mean to.

the way i do it is. take some fresh growth tips. chop up into tiny pieces, add to water+ LAB culture. let sit for 2 days. then use that water to keep your rooting medium moist. which for me is wormcastings + sand.

i wonder though if we could make our own powder.hmmm thats got me thinking.
jaykush

Thanks! I've been using the shoots in a couple of experiments so it sounds like something I should continue playing with.

Again, thanks!

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C21H30O2

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A friend bought a used EZ-Cloner (30 sites) and we ran it using only fulvic acid in a kelp meal tea.

It worked and worked very well actually. Same results as you experienced.

It's overkill for running 5 medical plants - to say the least.

Good technology and the results speak for themselves.

CC

I made a "EZ" cloner for 60 bucks lol those things sell for like 300. all you need is a water pump some pvc, emitters, and a container. Ill take some pics and post. The roots just started poking out on my blue dream.

I like the aero cloner because it allows for a bunch of clones quickly. not important for most but I would like to supply quality clones to the medical community. Grow seeds, spread clones :smokeit:
 

Clackamas Coot

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I like the aero cloner because it allows for a bunch of clones quickly. not important for most but I would like to supply quality clones to the medical community. Grow seeds, spread clones :smokeit:
C21H30O2

I used to do the very same thing until an asshole at one of the 'clinics' up in Portland questioned me about the strains that I was dropping off.

They're not from any 'Dutch' or BC company, i.e. they're old genetics from seeds that I've been collecting since 1970.

"What strain is this?"

"Whatever you want it to be I suppose."

"Our patients probably wouldn't be interested without a name attached!"

"Oh yeah - thanks for sharing."

Whatever.

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Frozenguy

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I do one of two things..

For both, I use rockwool cubes ph'd at 5.5 for a day, then I dip the cutting into dip and grow or I just put the cutting into the rockwool. The dip and grow shortens it all by about 35-45%
 

C21H30O2

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C21H30O2

I used to do the very same thing until an asshole at one of the 'clinics' up in Portland questioned me about the strains that I was dropping off.

They're not from any 'Dutch' or BC company, i.e. they're old genetics from seeds that I've been collecting since 1970.

"What strain is this?"

"Whatever you want it to be I suppose."

"Our patients probably wouldn't be interested without a name attached!"

"Oh yeah - thanks for sharing."

Whatever.

CC

So true the medical community is wacked. Pot is bought and sold on appearance and smell alone, that is it. I have worked in a collective and as a vendor, its so sad. Luckily I know some people that work with oaksterdam and a few club owners so im sure I can spread some clones, hopefully increasing the quality of cannabis in the medical scene as well. I am sooooooo tired of kush, skunk, haze hybrids lol
 

Clackamas Coot

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So true the medical community is wacked. Pot is bought and sold on appearance and smell alone, that is it. I have worked in a collective and as a vendor, its so sad. Luckily I know some people that work with oaksterdam and a few club owners so im sure I can spread some clones, hopefully increasing the quality of cannabis in the medical scene as well. I am sooooooo tired of kush, skunk, haze hybrids lol
C21H30O2

The specific plants that I dropped off were a breeding of a Kandahar Afghani (circa 1975) x Nigerian Sativa (circa 1983)

Not good enough because it wasn't a so-called 'named' strain.

Laughable to say the least.

CC
 

rasputin

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I've tried only two different ways of cloning but they've both been organic-based approaches.

First round was 20 cuttings from 7 different plants. I used Olivia's Cloning solution with rapid rooters inside a flat tray and clear humidity dome. Watered as needed with water/Olivia's solution per bottles recommendation. To be fair, cuttings were on the small end of the cutting spectrum and the grow space experienced less than ideal temps for rooting but all that aside, most importantly only five out of 20 rooted.

Second round of cuttings taken immediately after the first round results were in was done exactly the same way minus Olivia's solution. Rapid rooters & water as needed inside dome, misted 2x per day. Once at lights on, once either mid-day or before lights off. Same cool temps experienced but cuttings were noticeably larger and I made a point to have an exposed node inside the rapid rooter. 18 out of 20 rooted.

Third round repeated techniques from 2nd round, 8 of 8 rooted.

Correlation & causation being what they are, I can't say cutting out Olivia's solution solved my problems or that going forward I couldn't root cuttings using Olivia's. But I've at least proven to myself it can be done without any products to buy save for rapid rooters which can be replaced/substituted for & without any synthetic elements as well.
 

Frozenguy

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I've tried only two different ways of cloning but they've both been organic-based approaches.

First round was 20 cuttings from 7 different plants. I used Olivia's Cloning solution with rapid rooters inside a flat tray and clear humidity dome. Watered as needed with water/Olivia's solution per bottles recommendation. To be fair, cuttings were on the small end of the cutting spectrum and the grow space experienced less than ideal temps for rooting but all that aside, most importantly only five out of 20 rooted.

Second round of cuttings taken immediately after the first round results were in was done exactly the same way minus Olivia's solution. Rapid rooters & water as needed inside dome, misted 2x per day. Once at lights on, once either mid-day or before lights off. Same cool temps experienced but cuttings were noticeably larger and I made a point to have an exposed node inside the rapid rooter. 18 out of 20 rooted.

Third round repeated techniques from 2nd round, 8 of 8 rooted.

Correlation & causation being what they are, I can't say cutting out Olivia's solution solved my problems or that going forward I couldn't root cuttings using Olivia's. But I've at least proven to myself it can be done without any products to buy save for rapid rooters which can be replaced/substituted for & without any synthetic elements as well.

Next time you clone, put one aside, or rather right into a cup of tap water. It will root within 2 weeks if the temps in your place are moderate.

I have never failed seeing a clone root in pure tap water, yet I still dont use this as my only method.. Why? I don't know :dunno: lol

I do the same thing but in rockwool cubes with water ph'd to 5.5 with lemon juice. For some reason, the cuttings root more in the cubes..
Frozenguy :smokeit:
 
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vonforne

I have used the old powders but now use peat in little trays and some times peat pellets but have tried to get away from them.

I soak the cuts in tepid water and seaweed and then dip in honey most of the time but have left them in the cups of water like Grandma. :) I cut the bark off a willow where I used to live and tried it. If I can find one here I will use it again. But for the most part it is natural honey that is made locally here in Germany. And it is cheap also and did I mention it tastes GREAT!

V

Nice thread CC
 

guest2012y

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i wonder though if we could make our own powder.hmmm thats got me thinking.

I've been thinking about this very thing overnite..............I once had learned how to remove the biomass of a plant material without oxidizing the active compounds. Then it is crystalized using some basic solvents and a salt. It could then be added to some form of powder or gel. Wonder if it's water soluble,or oil based? ANYWAY...this is a great idea but it's been so long since I applied anything like this I can not remember how to do it......I'm sure these science "hip" guys on here could figure it out,or maybe I'll just Google it.
 
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