San Diego's Finest Cuts

[Moldy Dreads]

Whats with the cuts of GDP floating around town? I know the info is possibly in this thread... but its LONG. Looks like an easy going strain, but seems to be peeps bread & butter..

There are many purple strains going around and some mislabeling.
I have seen a couple different budding GDP plants including 2 that I grew that were so different from each other. Online too, some ridiculous Purple Kush looking buds, like posted in this thread, so go look, the info is here in the thread for sure, but it is only for the *informed Canna enthusiast lol

 

[Moldy Dreads]

That red and bud structure is indica based and not sat like from Panama. Who the heck grows sats indoors these days anyway...lol.

I think he said it was a Panama mom, but not red..

 

[Daiwa13]

There are many purple strains going around and some mislabeling.
I have seen a couple different budding GDP plants including 2 that I grew that were so different from each other. Online too, some ridiculous Purple Kush looking buds, like posted in this thread, so go look, the info is here in the thread for sure, but it is only for the *informed Canna enthusiast lol

Cool, Oak PK is a good grower.... Similar to some gdp I see...

 

[ogP91fam]

I think he said it was a Panama mom, but not red..

can i say again that i deserved all the bs i got...who the hell was i trying to be? sorry i let my ego waste so much space...glad i got the prescription for calm! thanks doc!

yeah....cool plant...and Good eye Journeyman...no fooling u, so i guess we are some serious folks here...cool to be in kindred company!

im just gonna paste what i typed over there, kool? you are right..lots of indica in there. The mom was a Panama red, but the dad was a cross i use in breeding alot, becuase it shoots crazy colors and i spent a long time homogenizing it for the things i thought were important. This cross i use a lot to cross on sativas and thais and i am always impressed with what pops up (it bulks them up well but doesnt usually change flavors much)! The father cross i am talking about is from a pure afghani i got from Marc Emory while i was staying up in Vancouver with my ex-wifes family (she is canadian...and a pain in the ass..lol) in 1994 or 5 i think. He told me it was 22 years selectively inbred in the dam...i was like, ok, lets try it....well, it was pure, but yall know the genetic problems with purebreds...so it was a terrible plant to grow with the smallest lil nugs...but it made the best F1 crosses! Many many of them purple, and when i crossed it on another pure afghan, i even ended up with some black....called it the black diamond...it was so pure black and cool, but i quickly figured out the color was just novelty and it was an inferior strain, and i let it go and now regret that too. The guy who had the mother of this Panama red kept it tho...and the PR, and we had a sort of falling out based on his desire to hoard and not share, etc....you guys think im a pain in the ass, you should meet him...lol. Impossible to deal with and sure he is God's gift to growing...yall probably know him and so i wont go any further...but i do not like HOARDERS! But he said i can have cuttings on this cross, because it was my hard work....but he is so convinced and scared someone is going to reverse engineer it and tease the PR back out and he says he will have wasted 30 years hoarding (ok, i chose that word for him...he said growing for personal stash) for nothing. U get the attitude. anyway...running on again....here is what i posted on her on WT:

"Someone over on another thread was mentioning Panama Red and it led to another question about if it still existed or not....

Im guessing there are some people out there who have managed to maintain something close to the landrace OG (meaning original in this case) Panama Red strains of the 70's but who really knows. Just wanted to add a couple of pics of the flowers without stealing the other guys thread...so i started this thread....any feedback is welcome....it took a while to get the color of the bud so bright and true......im pretty proud

(copied and pasted from what i typed on that other thread)

My buddy had it (Panama Red) up until very recently as well....he did let me play with it awhile...i made some crosses with his mother and some of my genetics.....because his yeild indoor was just horrible and i wanted to bulk it up a bit....(btw, he didnt let me have the pure mother, damn hoarder...and now it too is gone...another lesson in point to share!)

SO...i do have a really promising cross that i will be calling 'Panama-sadena Red' and it is very red...not purple or anything to just be labeled red for novelty...and a nice nice sativa/thai type kik!"

and this also...pasted from WT:

"im never gonna hoard again! Promise! I do have a lil deal worked out with the other parent...he is much less understanding....but HE WILL see the light...lol. We will make it available very soon...wanna work out a few details first...two sisters are acting alike, so we wanna select out the better....but i WILL be sharing and making sure it gets around. It tastes great!
It is pretty spacey....almost body high like an edible....so cool...wish i could perform a thcv content test on it.....
But just to be clear....it is clearly NOT Panama Red......it does have PR as a mom though and i believe that a more sativa version might bring out more of the PR traits....so i wanna try some inbreeding and see if i can't tease out some more of mammas genes.

I have a lot of interest in bringing back the purebreds (especially some of the Thai strains!)....they are really the best way to breed new strains and the only way to get those F1 hybrids that really change things!
I love and appreciate all help on tracking them down! And also love and appreciate all the appreciation.....so thanks!"

 

[ogP91fam]

There are many purple strains going around and some mislabeling.
I have seen a couple different budding GDP plants including 2 that I grew that were so different from each other. Online too, some ridiculous Purple Kush looking buds, like posted in this thread, so go look, the info is here in the thread for sure, but it is only for the *informed Canna enthusiast lol

i actually read up here or another forum that GDP was an old p91 cross...does anybody know if there is any truth to that...i was shocked when i read it...does anybody know the post to which im referring?? it shocked me, and i doubt it....but who knows...probably one of yall....

 

[guest5703]

So moldy what is it? Panama Red?? I was gonna guess Aurora Indica...

 

[ogP91fam]

That red and bud structure is indica based and not sat like from Panama. Who the heck grows sats indoors these days anyway...lol.

im the idiot who grows all of the lowest producing strains on earth!!! it is true it seems at times...i grow a lot of sativas and thais and always have a bunch of shitty looking plants as a result...but it is a great way to get exciting crosses. Nobody ever asks me for my ugly little sativas...but they all want the crosses when they produce! sad...im the guinea pig but i love it. I dont get big harvests but i get big rewards!

 

[ogP91fam]

When you came on here without pics proclaiming you were God's gift to Cannabis, we got very scheptical at your delivery, as we deal with many trolls on here, it's different than a community like WT where people are less anonymous...We depend on pics and humility to try to sort out trolls sometimes...anyway

After realizing I knew you from there, and saw recent pics and wise thoughts on WT, I must say your story is not the issue, it's all in the delivery...

understood, agreed, and let me once again apologize. Glad we can all get along...and we didnt even need Rodney King.....

(humility is an ongoing battle for me...sorry yall had to be there to witness it)

 

[ogP91fam]

Welcome Katsu!

ogp91fam - please do start a plant science thread here on IC. I, for one, am very interested in what you have to share. Any suggestions on books to read to gain a better understanding of plants/growing? Maybe not MJ specific, but applicable to?

My favorite read is:
Plant Breeding

By A. L. Hagedoorn



click here to see it for sale:
http://www.flipkart.com/plant-breeding-l-hagedoorn/1443726885-1ox3fxy5hc

not the best science book, but because of the fact English is not his first language, he goes out of his way to make the information accessible and i love his attitude. It makes so much sense to read this before wasting lots of time or space on crossing UNLESS you like suprises...he will tell you how to remove a lot of the guessing...besides that.....hmmmm, i read all the MJ ones and none really impress me much....

ps...sorry i keep posting these answers here...will go start that thread now so i dont keep stepping out of protocol here

 

[*Journeyman*]

Hey ogP91fam...one of the reasons I was pressing you to start a separate thread for stuff was in part to help keep this thread on track. It's nothing against you and know peeps would appreciate it. Would help keep valuable information and technical discussions in one place so as not to get lost in a thread like this and could also be used for future reference much more easily.

Just my

LOL...just read your EDIT so my post is a bit redundant.

 

[Daiwa13]

i actually read up here or another forum that GDP was an old p91 cross...does anybody know if there is any truth to that...i was shocked when i read it...does anybody know the post to which im referring?? it shocked me, and i doubt it....but who knows...probably one of yall....

I don't see many similarities comparing the P & GDP. GDP is always very dense and has that meaty candy/jelly smell. P had that anus + sourness smell but was way more airy and leafy & reminds me of real deal Headband done right. Way different bud structure....

 

[subrob]

there is no relation between the GDP i have and the P that i had...there is also no relation(IMO) to big bud...a more widely recognized story, but i cannot accept that. at all.
---so what the f happened in here? now all of a sudden its a lovetrain here in SDF!

 

[ogP91fam]

I don't see many similarities comparing the P & GDP. GDP is always very dense and has that meaty candy/jelly smell. P had that anus + sourness smell but was way more airy and leafy & reminds me of real deal Headband done right. Way different bud structure....

here was what i read on cannabis.com....no idea who this person making this claim is....but it suprised the hell out of me to read it...and no...i dont see the similarity either..


nothx

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grand daddy purple is a bay area. theres 2 different types just like shadyfuzz shared with us. The frosty one is a bay area native and is related to Purple Urkle (both found in the C.Cs) The one with the skunky floral taste is actually a strain off of p-91 (SD's finest) sold as purple p91

 

[Daiwa13]

there is no relation between the GDP i have and the P that i had...there is also no relation(IMO) to big bud...a more widely recognized story, but i cannot accept that. at all.
---so what the f happened in here? now all of a sudden its a lovetrain here in SDF!

Maybe because certain peeps ran CBB, P91 & JedI at the same time & got them mixed up...

 

[humbleguy]

Cut'n the mustard-

 

[praisehim.]

here was what i read on cannabis.com....no idea who this person making this claim is....but it suprised the hell out of me to read it...and no...i dont see the similarity either..


nothx

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grand daddy purple is a bay area. theres 2 different types just like shadyfuzz shared with us. The frosty one is a bay area native and is related to Purple Urkle (both found in the C.Cs) The one with the skunky floral taste is actually a strain off of p-91 (SD's finest) sold as purple p91

From my understanding, theres the ken cut, and the royal cut. both being urkle an big bud, but different phenos from two different growers. : ) but thats just another story until we get facts up in here..

 

[humble1]

i actually read up here or another forum that GDP was an old p91 cross...does anybody know if there is any truth to that...

ummmmmmh,

no.

there are two main recognized GDP cuts in the Bay.

Original GDP aka royale GDP:
Purple Urkle x Salmon Creek Big Bud

Ken's GDP
who knows besides Ken, but she grows way more Sativa in structure with longer stretch inbetween nodes and larger but slightly skinnier fan leaves. Smell and flavor are not as 'grapey' as the original GDP, either, but the faster Veg time should make up for it.

Do it Dago!

 

[Voodoo]

Humble, as always, great lookin shots.

Oh and as far as I've ever heard GDP is Urkle x Big Bud. Spot on humble cat.

 

[JeffSpicoli]

ya GDP is supposed to be urkle x big bud... But there is no way. Not a chance imo.

There is a thread on here somewhere, where someone is claiming all those purple derivates all stem from a Purple Pakistani.

 

[ogP91fam]

Humbleguy....that bottom pic has me drooling....seriously!