No change Obama Nominates Bush Appointee to Head DEA
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Uhm...Everything. Always the same cats hiding in these same threads talking the same doomsday bullshit. Thats all. Meanwhile the world and country is gettin on with it and you nerds are in here waxin poetic about the end of your country and all the Obamites are zombies. Love you guys and least you are consistent. Hey! They just dropped limits of Mj and are now at te point where(get this!) the voters can possibly decide if they want to legalize weed once and for all.At least in my country! Oh wait isnt that the same country you say is goin to hell daily with updates by Rush and Glenn at the top of the hour. And you experts are concerned about who is drug czar! Isnt that kinda like being the editer at a newspaper at this point? Yeah it was great at one point but what does your future look like? Anyways, I digress and I knew I could ruffle a few tarded feathers before bed so KMK......I thank you. Did you find this post helpful?
You are fucking out there man-- This is a specific Thread, about a specific decision Obama made-- I have never been a "Doomsday" person at all-- I believe I am quite open to "Change"...I am just waiting to see it--
Did you just cal me a "Tard"?? If so...then no other civilized exchange needed-- Fuck off Punk--
danut
Member
This has happened for the last several presidents in a row.
On the way into office, they hint about support. Then after getting our votes, because of the hints, they fail to bring in change with them.
Same old same old.
There is another window of time before the 2010 election. This window isn't as wide as will be before the 2012 election.
The ONLY TIME they NEED the people is just before the election.
It is the conventional wisdom that the people will forget anything older than six months. So what is important to the people is only important to them within that six months before the election. The closer to the election, the more important our voices are.
2012 SHOULD be a difficult election for President Obama. We need to target that time period to get a solid commitment of support and change about federal marijuana laws.
It is possible that Obama support has eroded enough that the 2010 mid term elections could be targeted. However since these folks tend to be self serving the 2012 elections are more likely to get us change. After all .. it'll be HIS votes then.
For us to see ANY real change then our community needs to be willing to pull our support for Obama. AND he needs to know THAT score.
Any real change, from a popular elected official, will only be possible while that popularity is in full swing. That means if we don't see the desired change when they first get into office, we will not see it at all.
I got beaten on here for saying these things before and right after the 2008 election. Does it matter to folks here that I was right?
On the way into office, they hint about support. Then after getting our votes, because of the hints, they fail to bring in change with them.
Same old same old.
There is another window of time before the 2010 election. This window isn't as wide as will be before the 2012 election.
The ONLY TIME they NEED the people is just before the election.
It is the conventional wisdom that the people will forget anything older than six months. So what is important to the people is only important to them within that six months before the election. The closer to the election, the more important our voices are.
2012 SHOULD be a difficult election for President Obama. We need to target that time period to get a solid commitment of support and change about federal marijuana laws.
It is possible that Obama support has eroded enough that the 2010 mid term elections could be targeted. However since these folks tend to be self serving the 2012 elections are more likely to get us change. After all .. it'll be HIS votes then.
For us to see ANY real change then our community needs to be willing to pull our support for Obama. AND he needs to know THAT score.
Any real change, from a popular elected official, will only be possible while that popularity is in full swing. That means if we don't see the desired change when they first get into office, we will not see it at all.
I got beaten on here for saying these things before and right after the 2008 election. Does it matter to folks here that I was right?
unfortunately, he has realized that it is easier to let a corrupt piece of shit stay on the job than to get his OWN piece of shit confirmed by congress. it is called "tossing the dogs a bone"...
WoW maannnn
Member
ending cannabis prohibition in the USA is low hanging fruit.
easy to do quickly, with the stroke of a pen
they havent done it yet
havent tried since carter
they are pushing HEALTH care reform- which wont help us
all they did was turn down the pressure A BIT
by the end of his first & final term it will be the only thing he did.
hooray for "us"
easy to do quickly, with the stroke of a pen
they havent done it yet
havent tried since carter
they are pushing HEALTH care reform- which wont help us
all they did was turn down the pressure A BIT
by the end of his first & final term it will be the only thing he did.
hooray for "us"
Synthettek
Active member
Did ANY of you actually buy into this fuckhead's BULLSHIT?
I can't fucking believe all the idiots that followed this joke like he's the fucking messiah.
he's a POLITICIAN... THEY ARE ALL LIARS!
I can't fucking believe all the idiots that followed this joke like he's the fucking messiah.
he's a POLITICIAN... THEY ARE ALL LIARS!
Some are worse than others and obama is the worst of the worst. An unintelligent, lying piece of crap that is totally dependent upon his multiple teleprompters almost every single time that he must speak more than a few sentences. When he speaks, he gives off the same level of passion as a rotten potato would and he also needs to quit lifting his chin so high, he has no reason to be arrogant. I wouldn't even hire him to shine my shoes.
He's worse than a shapeshifting chameleon and is about as trustworthy as a crack addicted bum on the street. Having no president would be better than obama, a person who has done far more damage to this country than good, since he's taken office.
Anything having to do with Marijuana is the least of his problems at the moment. He's currently getting slammed from all directions, and rightly so! I'm loving it!
danut
Member
Dear Lord, in the past year you have taken away my favorite actor, Patrick Swayze, my favorite actress, Farrah Fawcett, my favorite musician, Michael Jackson, my favorite salesman, Billie Mays, and my favorite athlete, Chris Henry. I just wanted to let you know..... my favorite president is Barrack Obama.
You guys need to stop looking to Obama for everything and start doing things yourselves.
What California achieved so far has been through the people's votes, hard activist, a couple martyrs and balls. Obama can't change shit alone..
What California achieved so far has been through the people's votes, hard activist, a couple martyrs and balls. Obama can't change shit alone..
R
REDEYE_420
HERE HERE! Your government is just as crazy as our UK government! Pharmaceutical companies run the world along with the banks and a few other select groups ( Monsanto being one-check them out, they're some scary motherfuckers! Watch out for GM pollen Mother Nature. )
PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK!
One day when there are no wars to fight, no oil to steal, no banks to sway government decision, no pharmaceutical companies pumping people full of synthetic drugs, and most of all when materialism vanishes, we will finally have our Utopia......Yes I am high
Peace.
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Iron_Lion
I dont vote, and I dont necessarily think Obama is anything special but... I dont really think McCain/Palin would have been a better alternative. Ha! the P.O.W and a gun toting milf that could barely hack it as the governor or alaska, you want to talk about a nazi regime.
The problems we are experiencing today having been brewing since the 30's, this has nothing to do with Clinton, Bush or Obama when you really get down to it. The U.S was f*cked the day some asshat invented the federal reserve. Why do we want legalization anyways, do you really want Pfizer or Philip Morris growing your weed? or maybe you'd like some genetically altered seeds from Monsanto, as long as this plant is illegal it will keep those nasty establishments out of the weed game. The emphasis should be put on decriminalization, under decrim laws cops pretty much stop giving a shit about it and there is still enough "penalty" involved to keep large corporations away.
umm, you need to think this through. Here's two words to get you thinking: Joe Biden
If they both go together isn't it Hillary that's next up?
KMK - I do believe you started up with the harsh language and I was just trying to use terms you could understand. I am out there by the way. So far you got no clue! There are no specific threads on IC just threads so sorry to offend your sensibilities and thread etiquette, so but do try to keep up. How open are you and everyone in this thread to the fact that the last adminstration gave up your country to the highest bidder before leaving office and the ruling they ensured would happen last week did just that. This ruling that none of you has mentioned in your (conservatives hiding out and pretending to be independents) rants? I hear crickets! Legalization was dead under the last admin. and people were getting raided on a constant basis. All I fear now is some ripper breakin in, not my gov. So tell me how it was moving along like this with Bush?( Danut)
Greenhead cant get off the teleprompter issue! This is like the 20th thread were he has brought it up. Yet if you ask people he is one of the most charismatic speakers we have elected since Kennedy. But keep on the whole tele thing Greeny. Everyone here screamin replace him in 2012. With who? Palin? Please! Biden? Please! Look at what he has done with the turd he was handed. Now instead of your houses being worth 25k they are worth 125K not good but look at what your alternatives would have been. Medical care for all? What a novel idea. You have been paying for universal care since the 30's and it is called madicare/medicaid so the notion that the gov shouldnt be involved is, well tarded. Look at the relaxation of the cannabis laws on a federal level now compared to just 18 months ago. Some people have grown their entire lives and it never changed. Others have been growing for 2 years and its a complete 180!!! Some people cant see the forrest for all the trees. Who cares who the drug czar is, I say again!! And lastly, if Pat Swayze and Farrah are your favorite anything, you really are tardeed so go put your helmet back on and strap up.
Greenhead cant get off the teleprompter issue! This is like the 20th thread were he has brought it up. Yet if you ask people he is one of the most charismatic speakers we have elected since Kennedy. But keep on the whole tele thing Greeny. Everyone here screamin replace him in 2012. With who? Palin? Please! Biden? Please! Look at what he has done with the turd he was handed. Now instead of your houses being worth 25k they are worth 125K not good but look at what your alternatives would have been. Medical care for all? What a novel idea. You have been paying for universal care since the 30's and it is called madicare/medicaid so the notion that the gov shouldnt be involved is, well tarded. Look at the relaxation of the cannabis laws on a federal level now compared to just 18 months ago. Some people have grown their entire lives and it never changed. Others have been growing for 2 years and its a complete 180!!! Some people cant see the forrest for all the trees. Who cares who the drug czar is, I say again!! And lastly, if Pat Swayze and Farrah are your favorite anything, you really are tardeed so go put your helmet back on and strap up.
GrowingHigher
Active member
not all the criticizers are just the same b.s. neocons. I am far to the left of obama on most social issues, foreign policy issues, and even some ecomonic issues. The political spectrum is more three dimensional than a line from rush limbaugh to che guevera.
Fuck Palin and McCain; modern conservatism is dead (cheney shot it in the fucking face). But that dosen't mean there aren't a few jewels of philosophy from its foundation worth keeping. Go back to the days of intellectual conservatives; Barry goldwater, william f. buckely. Their philosophy is so far from the GOP today it is laughable.
I criticize Obama quite harshly because I have among the most to lose from his inaction. I am a poor college grad, without steady employment, in a state without legal cannabis of any form, severely under-insured, and as queer as they come.
And yes; we need to make this happen not rely on the top. And I am not saying the Cali legalization bill isn't wonderful; it is. I just also think its time to DEMAND change from the top. If not now, when? Should we wait for a Palin, Romney, limbaugh to win office? Fuck no, this is the best we are going to get in a while... The worst thing he could do is pull a Carter and waste our opportunity. The point is Federal laws have not relaxed a bit. It may seem that way in the California bubble, but they haven't
Also, I disagree on your final conclusion. Who the drug czar is makes a meaningful difference. As much or more than the medical marijuana memo. The person in charge will affect how policies are implemented; having a drug reformer over a blind prohibitionist can have a real impact. Although this thread is not about the drug czar its about the head of the DEA, same issue applies.
Rainman...WTF does that have to do with Obama appointing [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Michele Leonhart as Director of the DEA???[/FONT]
Dude...you are trippin'-- "WTF" is "Harsh Language"?
You are the one who proceeded to call me a "Tard"--
I just didn't understand WTF your post had to do with the convo that was going on...you called me/us out...saying...
then you posted an article that had no relevance--
Haha...it wasn't "Board Etiquette"...I simply didn't understand how you were using that article to support your sarcasm--
I don't understand the "Danut" thing?? I hope you are not trying to imply I am him--
As far as how open I am to what Bush did??
How is "Very" for an answer!!
That is the thing...I have only commented on what I think about Obama's Appointment to the DEA Director-- Dude...To my memory, I have never before...ever, criticized Obama directly--
That is why I am confused about all this-- You came out saying all these things...that simply are not true--
I never had much of a prob with you before...maybe we disagree sometimes, but I respect that--
So your stance here is just kinda whacked...like the quote below....do you not understand that is just an internet joke flowing around....and I thought it was funny-- Quit trying to read things into what I say....I am usually a pretty calm, tho opinionated person-- I just don't take well to attacks--
Peace--
danut
Member
Ran out of tin foil.
Did you hear about the plastic bag of white powder they found in a vent in the oval office?
They figured out it was OK when the found the note "George's stash" on it.
KMK - Relax man. I am not attacking you. I just found it rare that the person who started in with the WTF is the one acting surprised that I am using harsh language. No one is calling you out or assaulting your intelligence. I was simply responding to the various comments made. Danut made a comment about the push for legalization going being moved forward by the last few administrations and that is what I was referring to. The article is a reminder to all in the thread about how far this is going with no help from the top. Thats all. All the Obama bashing but no recognition of the Supreme court decision and the effects seems a little narrow visions but I guess that really is the point in these threads. Again hope I didnt offend
No prob man...I still don't know why "WTF" is opening up harsh language...but it's cool--
I never "Obama Bashed"...tho, so just thought you were responding to me--
Peace--
