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How to fight the spread of poor advice?
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Iron_Lion
I left gardens cure a few years ago because the posters over there kept regurgitating the same crap advice over and over, to the point where it was believed to be true by the posting populus.
I still see people on here giving out bad advice from time to time, altho they never want to admit its a pile of horse shit and just keep posting more and more crap in defense of them selves.
It's simple really, if you dont know something to be true based on personal experience you shouldnt relay that info to other people.
No way to stop it really, once a grower has a few grows under their belt and a few (hundred) hours of reading they get to know what works and what doesnt. Some people just have to have something to say in every thread I guess
I still see people on here giving out bad advice from time to time, altho they never want to admit its a pile of horse shit and just keep posting more and more crap in defense of them selves.
It's simple really, if you dont know something to be true based on personal experience you shouldnt relay that info to other people.
No way to stop it really, once a grower has a few grows under their belt and a few (hundred) hours of reading they get to know what works and what doesnt. Some people just have to have something to say in every thread I guess
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Ganja D
A good friend and grower once said, "If you put 30 growers in a room and tell them they need to work together and design a grow room/operation there will be fist fights."
Some times even good growers disagree in their methods. Until Governments allow real research and testing of cannabis it's about what works for you from your own research and experience.
Some times even good growers disagree in their methods. Until Governments allow real research and testing of cannabis it's about what works for you from your own research and experience.
here2learn
Member
welcome to the internet!!!
I believe the best way to counter this, would be to take the misinformation found in a post, dissect it and provide information and evidence to show how incorrect the advice really is. This way those reading the page have more than one opinion to make a judgement call.
Personally, I think all the advice regarding pinching, twisting and bending is detrimental to growing marijuana. While it may be a novelty, these micro-grows also lead people to believe this plant can be manipulated without causing problems to the plants growth.
I've also come to the conclusion that the major producers who grow commercially do not want others to learn how to grow well. That would increase the competition and, not be good for business.
I think it would be a benefit to the community if the owners of these seed banks would write out comprehensive instructional threads on various stages of growth. Their experience could benefit the community far more than all of us scratching our heads, wondering which opinion to believe.
Personally, I think all the advice regarding pinching, twisting and bending is detrimental to growing marijuana. While it may be a novelty, these micro-grows also lead people to believe this plant can be manipulated without causing problems to the plants growth.
I've also come to the conclusion that the major producers who grow commercially do not want others to learn how to grow well. That would increase the competition and, not be good for business.
I think it would be a benefit to the community if the owners of these seed banks would write out comprehensive instructional threads on various stages of growth. Their experience could benefit the community far more than all of us scratching our heads, wondering which opinion to believe.
Green Smoke
Member
Don't knock it til you've tried it. Some of us have to do what we can in the space we have to get our meds. I learned to do it here in these forums and it works for me. It's not a novelty, it's a tried and true method for growing in small spaces.
Bumble Buddy
Active member
One must be the change you wish for.
If you go about your life practicing the principles of logic, critical thinking, skepticism, and scientific methodology, others will be affected in kind.
If you go about your life practicing the principles of logic, critical thinking, skepticism, and scientific methodology, others will be affected in kind.
Its probably impossible to stop this. The best we can do is chime in and say that the information is fallacious; we have to make sure that the information that we think is fallacious isn't something that is subjective.
The advice I give to someone trying to do DWC is probably going to be quite different from advice about an organic soil grow.
The advice I give to someone trying to do DWC is probably going to be quite different from advice about an organic soil grow.
The tip of your plant tells the rest of the plant to stay down while it steals all the good stuff. Chop off it's head, the next two take over, steal the good stuff and tell the rest of the plant to stay down. Bend the tip, the message gets lost, EVERY stem steals the good stuff and EVERY stem insists on being the big cola as it tries to outgrow all others.
Is such explosive growth a problem in a micro cab? You betcha. Po' Freezer's got too damn much weed
Sucks but, it's the cross we bear.By the way, this works GREAT outdoors for those with 6 foot fences and 20 foot trees. Biggest plant I ever grew.
When I give advice I usually preface it by saying that's what I do or that's what works for me. I'm no expert. I just know what I've done and what's worked and what hasn't. And that's all I (or anybody) can say.
So regardless of whether someone explicitly says so, I suggest you read each piece of advice knowing that it is what works for that particular person for their particular growing conditions. Your mileage may vary.
So regardless of whether someone explicitly says so, I suggest you read each piece of advice knowing that it is what works for that particular person for their particular growing conditions. Your mileage may vary.
I agree with you on this. I try to always tell people that what i write is simply myopinion and they can choose to take or leave it. I think the problem comes when there people that have been reading only half of what their supposed to and than try to share what they dont know about.
And about the pinching, twisting and bending. It can be detrimental if what your trying to do is just to mess with the plant. Plants can be manipulated, haven't you bamboo that they make grow in spirals?
I work in a production business and center pieces of flowers are always manipulated to grow a certain way that is more appealing. My grandpa once told me what doesnt kill the plant maks it stronger, and i still find this true.
If you want a plant to grow tall, don't pinching or bend it down, that will be detrimntal against what your trying to do. For my SCROG i practice all of these and they work great. If you grow SOG though this may not be the thing for you.
This brings me to my last thing. What is good advice? What is bad advice? Just like how to me bending, pinching and twisting is a miracle, it allows me to make stems stronger, create new growth tops and make the branch thicker. However to another person this does nothing.
Advice is what you make of it if you choose to.
thats why we have mods and ppl like u to call others on theyre bullshit ppl need to read and research i been growin for 6years and am still learning and will be forever i may give an opinion but they are not my plants i dont know what they look like in person and what they telling me i cant grow it for u. only way to learn is to make mistakes and play around with what u think is best and find out what works theres some muchinfo on here pic and choose who and what u take litteraly. i would take freezerboys advice anyday over someone that has 10posts and just joined with no growpics .by the way thanks fb for all ur help in the past take care everyone
The other day, I was listening to a morning radio show as I was working in my big room. The conversation drifted toward Canna, when they started taking listener calls. I guy called in and said that he was a grower. As you guys can imagine, I was glued to the discussion. At first the "grower" sounded OK; he knew the basic principles and could scale them into a sizable grow. The more he talked, however, the more obvious it became that he was just a poseur. Perhaps he hangs out on a forum, or maybe he read Jorge's book. Whatever he case, he most definitely did not grow weed. I marveled at the irony, as I sat there staring at a few pounds of soon to be harvested product.
That's what I feel like when I come to a growing forum. A few folks are my peers, but most just parrot some sort of hearsay.
Simon
That's what I feel like when I come to a growing forum. A few folks are my peers, but most just parrot some sort of hearsay.
Simon
Every post should start with: In my opinion, or In my experience . . .
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simon i know plenty of people like that one guy i met swears he grows the best bud of course better then what i get/he dont know i grow it lol when i got some it was him taking credit for somone elses hard work i been smokin "his" weed for the last 10years i know where he got it as im originally from nyc one of my bestfriends from lived on the block for 25 years still does the asshole is 20years old so he been growin it for 10years fuckinasshole just wantin to one up me anyway tells me"he mixs a litre of drpepper in his food" to make the haze spicy IN MY OPINION NEVER TRIED IT NEVER WOULD i bet he puts a gallon of diesel fuel in his food to make sourD ihad to walk away before i slapped the shit out of his young ass i left him there with his great drpepp weed and now if he wants my nug he can give my boy 500 or go fuck himself
There sure is a lot of verbal masturbation going on in here. I think it stems from rule #1 and they need to tell somebody how great their shit is. I do this and I know what is best. Then there are the mental midgets who think it funny to give out bad advice and then there's those uscrupulous bastard commercial people that think giving bad advice is protecting their wallets.
I have to agree with people who have said read and read, then read some more. And don't go by any one person's advice and only do what is best for you. This is the internet, so ANYONE with any agenda or hidden motive who can push down keys will, and does, respond. There's probably as much bad advice going around as sound advice. Just always think of youself as a bullshit filter looking for the final cleaned out result.
I have to agree with people who have said read and read, then read some more. And don't go by any one person's advice and only do what is best for you. This is the internet, so ANYONE with any agenda or hidden motive who can push down keys will, and does, respond. There's probably as much bad advice going around as sound advice. Just always think of youself as a bullshit filter looking for the final cleaned out result.
Sorry is this a campaign to make commercial growers out as bad people? Or does this really happen? Because I've never once seen it in the last 5 years of being on forums. In fact, the commercial guys are generally the people with the most knowledge and advice.
Telegraphist.
Member
Way i look upon it
We are all diplomats representing cannabis here, so any false data out there can be taken and manipulated against the legalisation cause.
More false data plays into the pharma hands as the government will feel a duty to protect medical users from themselves with this false data. So big pharma has to supply you, not let you grow your own, or others use of medicine posioned by falsehoods
Why would anybody lie to a sick person in the first place?
We are all diplomats representing cannabis here, so any false data out there can be taken and manipulated against the legalisation cause.
More false data plays into the pharma hands as the government will feel a duty to protect medical users from themselves with this false data. So big pharma has to supply you, not let you grow your own, or others use of medicine posioned by falsehoods
Why would anybody lie to a sick person in the first place?
